I know I've read some decent posts about lenses recently for the eos
20d camera so now I'll ask one.
If money is no object can you list what lenses in priority (first
being the best) of what you think will make a great portrait lense for
the Canon EOS 20D? I'm just doing this for myself or inlaws (photos
will be individual shots or family photos) and I think most of the
time my photos will be snap shots or 8 inch by 10 inch in size.
However once in a blue moon I'll do a 18 inch by 24 inch so I want a
good lense even tho this will be so seldom I can probably count it on
one hand.
I apologize if I left out some pertinent information in this post to
help answer my question. I think my portraits will be taken inside a
home with low light or so so light but definitely not studio lights or
bright.
thanks to you all in ADVANCE for the help.
David Littlewood - 27 Aug 2005 23:18 GMT
>I know I've read some decent posts about lenses recently for the eos
>20d camera so now I'll ask one.
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>thanks to you all in ADVANCE for the help.
For full length portraits and small family groups (2-3 people) the EF
50mm f/1.4 would be a superb choice; on the 20D it would have almost the
same field of view as an 85mm on 35mm film bodies. The EF 50mm f/1.8
would probably be almost as good at a much lower price (I don't have one
of these so I can only go on others' recommendations, but it's almost a
giveaway).
For tighter head and shoulders, the 85mm f/1.8 would be excellent; it
has a field of view approximately the same as a 135mm lens on 35mm.
For real tight head shots, the EF 100mm f/2.8 macro will give shots so
sharp your relatives may complain about the wrinkles; it will also be
superb for flowers and insects.
I have all 3 of the recommended lenses and can endorse them from
personal experience; all should give results good enough to give the
maximum enlargement the camera body is capable of. You should think of
using a tripod to ensure the ultimate in sharpness though, unless using
flash. If you are using natural light, then take care to focus
correctly; the above lenses (especially the first 2) will have very
small depth of field if used wide open, and AF can often misjudge the
point you want to be sharp (which should be the eyes, or the nearer eye
if oblique).
BTW, I assume "lense" is some US eccentricity; it is unknown over here.
David

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Joseph Meehan - 27 Aug 2005 23:46 GMT
>I know I've read some decent posts about lenses recently for the eos
> 20d camera so now I'll ask one.
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> thanks to you all in ADVANCE for the help.
I would go for a f 1.4 55mm. You don't need anything better.
Having said that, that would be my choice. Photography is an art and
portraits have much to do about style. I tend towards a rather tradition
style. Other people might want to use something much different.
I chose a f 1.4 so I could reduce the DOF. I might prefer a f 1.2 but
then there would be some give in other areas. I would like a lens that was
sharp in the center with a fall off toward the edges, but there are other
ways of getting what I want there.
I chose a 55 mm because that on a 20d will put me at the right distance
for the perspective I like and gets just enough room between me and the
subject that I can be personal but not overwhelming.
BTW those 1.4 lenses are very available and not expensive. The 1.2
would be a bit more expensive.

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Jim Townsend - 27 Aug 2005 23:48 GMT
> I know I've read some decent posts about lenses recently for the eos
> 20d camera so now I'll ask one.
>
> If money is no object can you list what lenses in priority (first
> being the best) of what you think will make a great portrait lense for
> the Canon EOS 20D?
If you want to "go nuts".. the EF 85 f/1.2 would be the most desirable
portrait lens.. If you just want good results, the 50mm f/1.4 would
be perfectly adequate..
Mark² - 28 Aug 2005 02:17 GMT
>> I know I've read some decent posts about lenses recently for the eos
>> 20d camera so now I'll ask one.
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> portrait lens.. If you just want good results, the 50mm f/1.4 would
> be perfectly adequate..
I agree, though the funny thing is...
With the 1.6 crop, you end up with a perspective similar to a 80mm with the
50 (since you'll have to back up to the same distance you would if you were
using an 80mm on a 35mm body)...
Or...with the 85mm on the20D, you're all the way up to a similar perspective
of 136mm, which is a little long for portrait.
***And before anyone jumps in chirping how "it's still the same extension,
blah blah..."
-Remember that I'm talking about *perspective.* To FRAME the head or
shoulders as you would normally, you'll back up to a similar distance with
the 50 as you would the 80... It's this *distance* from subject
(perspective factor) that controls how large a nose looks relative to the
face, etc.... Not the extension of any lens.
What I'm getting at is....
On a 1.6 crop camera, I think the 50 is better than the 85mm. 85 acts too
long and too flat (like 136mm) 50mm (like 80) is at the short end of "just
right."
When/if I end up with a full frame again (other than film!), I'd want the
80-100mm range for portraits.
-Mark
Steve Wolfe - 28 Aug 2005 01:52 GMT
> If money is no object can you list what lenses in priority (first
> being the best) of what you think will make a great portrait lense for
> the Canon EOS 20D?
Money is no object? 85mm f/1.2, first and foremost, then a 135mm f/2.0.
Then 50mm 2nd 35mm f/1.4.
> I'm just doing this for myself or inlaws (photos
> will be individual shots or family photos) and I think most of the
> time my photos will be snap shots or 8 inch by 10 inch in size.
> However once in a blue moon I'll do a 18 inch by 24 inch so I want a
> good lense even tho this will be so seldom I can probably count it on
> one hand.
Buy a 50mm f/1.8 (or, if you really want to spend the money, a 50mm
f/1.4), and take your normal photos, and when you need it, rent the 85mm
f/1.2.
steve
Don - 28 Aug 2005 06:05 GMT
I have just done a series of portraits for a work friend and I ended up
using nothing more than the 50mm 1.8 cheapy/plastic thing. It was on my 20D
and for value for money portrait lens it is bloody fantastic. I took shots
both outside in my Japanese garden and inside in my "shed" studio using off
camera 580ex and 420 ex flash with the ST-E2 ir trigger and a couple of
cheap stands. This worked really well, in fact far better than I could have
imagined (got the idea from one of the truly professional counter jumpers
where I buy my gear). When considering portraits even if money was no
option I would probably stay with that set up as its so easy to use and
relatively cheap. I have a set of L series lenses (17 - 40, 70 - 200, 400
prime) and a 28 - 135 IS and still reverted back to the cheap 50mm.
Regards
Don from Down Under
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> steve
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes - 31 Aug 2005 11:06 GMT
> I know I've read some decent posts about lenses recently for the eos
> 20d camera so now I'll ask one.
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>
> thanks to you all in ADVANCE for the help.
I use three different lences for portraits:
* EF 28-70 f2.8 L USM
* EF 135 mm soft focus
* EF 70-200 f2.8 L IS USM
The 135 mm is the cheapest one, while the 70-200 is the most expensive one.

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