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Canon 50mm 1.4

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Russell - 28 Apr 2005 17:20 GMT
I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.

This will be used on a 20D, so in reality it has a 35mm equivalent of 80mm,
which I think is probably the right focal length for this kind of use.

I have heard it is a good lens, but would like to hear from users 'in the
field'.  Anyone have any feedback on using this lens?
Lionel - 28 Apr 2005 17:50 GMT
>I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.
>
>This will be used on a 20D, so in reality it has a 35mm equivalent of 80mm,
>which I think is probably the right focal length for this kind of use.

Perfect, in fact. I use the 50mm/F1.8 on my 10D for almost all my people
shots:
<http://lo.ve.ly/gallery/NightClubs>

>I have heard it is a good lens, but would like to hear from users 'in the
>field'.  Anyone have any feedback on using this lens?

I've heard nothing but praise for it. The only reason I don't have one
myself is because the F1.8 is good enough that I'm reluctant to spend
3-4 times as much money on the F1.4 when there are so many other lenses
that I need more urgently.
Given the incredibly cheap price of the F1.8, you might consider getting
one yourself. Once you've used it for a while, you might also find that
it meets your needs very well on the 20D.

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Malcolm Stewart - 28 Apr 2005 19:05 GMT
> >I have heard it is a good lens, but would like to hear from users 'in the
> >field'.  Anyone have any feedback on using this lens?
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> one yourself. Once you've used it for a while, you might also find that
> it meets your needs very well on the 20D.

Currently, I have both the EF 50 f1.4 & f1.8 (Mk I).  I started off with the
"very affordable" EF50 f1.8 Mk II.  Despite the very loose and wobbly
construction, optically it was fine around f4 / f5.6 and downwards.
Mounting the lens hood was a pain, and there was no footage/meterage scale.
As soon as I saw a s/h f1.4 at a decent price, I bought one, and was
impressed.  It's even sharp at full aperture but only after I had my 10D's
AF "calibrated".  However, its focus motor died after a mere 3 months use,
and needed an expensive repair, so I ended up paying more than a new copy
would have cost.  (Canon UK informed me that not all EF50 F1.4s can still be
repaired due to internal changes in parts, and they only hold parts upto 10
years after cessation of production.)
More recently, rave reports and curiosity got the better of me and I bought
an EOS620 so as to get the f1.8 Mk I on its front!  I wasn't disappointed.
The Mk I is well constructed, and performs well, and is somewhat smaller, if
size is an issue.  (I gave the Mk II to my daughter who had just bought an
EOS300D.  There's paternal love for you.<g> )

The EF50 f1.4 is special in that it is the only EF lens without USM which
allows FTM (Full Time Manual) focusing.

One day I must try some film in the EOS620!
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james - 28 Apr 2005 20:33 GMT
>However, its focus motor died after a mere 3 months use,
>and needed an expensive repair

Have I misunderstood Canon lenses to have a 7 year warranty?
Malcolm Stewart - 28 Apr 2005 21:21 GMT
> >However, its focus motor died after a mere 3 months use,
> >and needed an expensive repair
>
> Have I misunderstood Canon lenses to have a 7 year warranty?

My understanding is that if bought new, you get a one year Canon warranty,
valid at Canon or Canon authorised service centres.  (In some cases, it may
be extended for extra cost.)  Don't know whether it covers you if you need
warranty service in a different country to where purchased.  I think lenses
are handled differently to camera bodies.

My point was that my S/H EF50 f1.4 failed in a known weak area, the focus
motor, and that I was lucky that parts were available to repair my lens.  A
friend found that his EF 24 f2.8 was too old for repair, and  it became an
expensive paper weight.
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M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
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Steve Cutchen - 29 Apr 2005 04:13 GMT
> More recently, rave reports and curiosity got the better of me and I bought
> an EOS620 so as to get the f1.8 Mk I on its front!  I wasn't disappointed.
> The Mk I is well constructed, and performs well, and is somewhat smaller, if
> size is an issue.  (I gave the Mk II to my daughter who had just bought an
> EOS300D.  There's paternal love for you.<g> )

I wanted a 50mm for use in low light situations when shooting indoor
volleyball.  I bought a Mk I on eBay for $115.  I like it a lot.
John A. Stovall - 28 Apr 2005 19:35 GMT
>I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I have heard it is a good lens, but would like to hear from users 'in the
>field'.  Anyone have any feedback on using this lens?

Been using one on a 20D for about a month and its a very good lens but
don't think it's "equivalent" of an 80mm. It's just a reduced field
and some times that puts you within some people's personal space at
least for a close up. At least for Candid people shots I've found the
85mm F1.8 more useful but that maybe just my shooting style. I do use
the 50mm F1.4 for low light indoors and outdoor landscapes.

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james - 28 Apr 2005 19:36 GMT
>I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.

The focal length is perfect, yes.

The 1.4 (around $300), simply looks and feels like a much better lens
than the ($60) 1.8.  There is no comparison between these lenses.  One
is awesome (I don't have it, but several colleagues do, and it's on my
want list), and the other is merely "worth having for $60".
Chris Brown - 29 Apr 2005 01:28 GMT
>I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I have heard it is a good lens, but would like to hear from users 'in the
>field'.  Anyone have any feedback on using this lens?

Get one! I use it on a 10D - it's lovely for portraits, and does absolutely
magical things when shot wide-open on contrasty scenes. Here's a landscape
done at f/1.4:

http://www.narcissus.uklinux.net/angbridge.jpg

One of my very favourite lenses on any of my cameras.
paul - 29 Apr 2005 03:56 GMT
>>I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Get one! I use it on a 10D - it's lovely for portraits, and does absolutely
> magical things when shot wide-open on contrasty scenes.

What makes it perform well for contrasty scenes? I'm not sure what
quality you are reffering to, the soft blurry glow? Soften the harsh edges?

> Here's a landscape done at f/1.4:
>
> http://www.narcissus.uklinux.net/angbridge.jpg
>
> One of my very favourite lenses on any of my cameras.
Chris Brown - 29 Apr 2005 23:30 GMT
>>>I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>What makes it perform well for contrasty scenes?

It seems to impart a wonderful dreamy quality to the images. May be
something to do with spherical abberation, I can only speculate.
paul - 30 Apr 2005 03:55 GMT
>>>>I am considering a Canon 50mm 1.4 prime lens for 'people' shots.
>>>>
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> It seems to impart a wonderful dreamy quality to the images. May be
> something to do with spherical abberation, I can only speculate.

That's what I saw in your sample, a really really soft glow. I wasn't
sure if that was just mist in the air or not.
Chris Brown - 30 Apr 2005 10:28 GMT
>>>What makes it perform well for contrasty scenes?
>>
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>That's what I saw in your sample, a really really soft glow. I wasn't
>sure if that was just mist in the air or not.

It's all from the lens. Believe it or not, the air on that day was
crystal-clear.
newsbirdie2@hotmail.com - 29 Apr 2005 19:54 GMT
I don't have either yet (still dreaming of purchasing the camera) but
I've read a lot of reviews and from what I've read, mainly the reviews
at Fred Miranda's website, the 50mm 1.4 seems to be worth the extra
money.  Everyone that has the 1.4 says it's worth it, and the ones who
have the 1.8 simply don't know what they're missing.  I plan to
purchase the 1.4.  You can look at it as 4x the price or you can look
at it as $240 more.   I prefer the latter.  There's something about a
$60 lens that makes me a little suspicious.
james - 29 Apr 2005 20:12 GMT
>I don't have either yet (still dreaming of purchasing the camera) but
>I've read a lot of reviews and from what I've read, mainly the reviews
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>at it as $240 more.   I prefer the latter.  There's something about a
>$60 lens that makes me a little suspicious.

I saw some prints from a colleague who has this lens on a 20D, and they
were simply outrageously good.  Granted, they are images taken by a
highly skilled photographer, but, this lens really shines for natural
light.  It's next on my wish list.
 
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