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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / March 2005Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it?
Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? > Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? It is Japanese. Most here pronounce it boe-kuh, but I think the Japanese just "boke". -Not sure about the latter... > > Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? > > It is Japanese. > > Most here pronounce it boe-kuh, but I think the Japanese just "boke". > -Not sure about the latter... Perfectly right - Japanese is phonetic so you pronounce vowels simply - a as in mat, e as in met etc so bo as in bond and ke as in kettle. BTW The consonant *L* doesn't exist in Japanese R is used instead and a lot of Japanese get them confused (flied lice) likewise also si (as in seat) - shi (she) is used - so 'We are sitting together' becomes... >Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? It's from the Japanese word for "blur", boke. The "h" was added to keep English-speakers from rhyming it with "broke" As I understand it, it rhymes with "mocha" except that there are no stressed syllables in Japanese. A Japanese-speaker will be along soon to correct me if I'm mistaken. Dave ------------------------------------- Everything I know, and then some: http://www.auctionmyths.com > >Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > A Japanese-speaker will be along soon to correct me if I'm mistaken. You are not completely correct....I have a soundfile on my computer of a Japanese person pronouncing it. It goes like BO-keh, with a slightly longer "bo" and short keh (spoken like "que?") It doesn't rhyme with mocha. closest sounding English word is "bouquet" I think, that sounds a bit like my bokeh soundfile, apart from the ou-o change by the way, I found it when I looked for info on how to pronounce "Zuiko"... another one of those things. :-) Lourens >>Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >"broke" As I understand it, it rhymes with "mocha" except that there >are no stressed syllables in Japanese. I always thought it was pronounced to rhyme with, "okay", as in the British pronunciation of "bouqet". > >>Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I always thought it was pronounced to rhyme with, "okay", as in the British > pronunciation of "bouqet". Dunno how "okay" is pronounced on that side of the pond. Probably quite different from my side of the pond. (I had to read the Japanese subtitles in Letter to Brezhnev since I couldn't understand what they were saying...) The "e" is a tad shorter and without the grinning involved in pronouncing the "a" in hay. I've been told vowels in Japanese are like vowels in Italian, but given the difficulties I had with Latin and German (two seriously difficult languages compared to Japanese) I've made a point of avoiding European languages... FWIW, the actual Japanese term is "bokeh-aji", literally "the flavor of the out of focus". David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan >> >>Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? >> > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > the > out of focus". I was close. I thought the literal translation was "blurry sh.t in the background." > David J. Littleboy > Tokyo, Japan >>>> Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > FWIW, the actual Japanese term is "bokeh-aji", literally "the flavor > of the out of focus". So, is that flavoUr different from flavor? No, really: one of the difficulties with speaking Spanish (as opposed to speaking at it) for gringos is the challenge presented by learning to lose the habit of drawing-out final vowels. _Tomate_ should sound like "tow mah teh" as opposed to "to mah tey". Shutting down when the communication is done, when the vowel has been sufficiently identified, ain't natural for us north-of-the-borderers. I wonder if _boke_ = "boh keh" requires the same kind of exhale close-off rather than a dwindling deflation.  SignatureFrank ess > >>Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I always thought it was pronounced to rhyme with, "okay", as in the British > pronunciation of "bouqet". Uh.... This Briton pronounces "bouquet" nothing like "okay" (and not much like *boke*, neither). ________________________________________________________________________ Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com) If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address! >> I always thought it was pronounced to rhyme with, "okay", as in the British >> pronunciation of "bouqet". > >Uh.... This Briton pronounces "bouquet" nothing like "okay" (and not >much like *boke*, neither). Please tell me you don't engage in that nasty southern habit of schwa-ing the poor word to death? Although I've lived in the south for some time now, a lot of people can still detect that I'm originally from "oop north", because I still can't quite bring myself to stop pronouncing vowels. ;-> >>Bokeh - Where did the term come from, and how do you pronounce it? > > It's from the Japanese word for "blur", boke. As in "If it ain't boke don't flix it" :o) |
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