I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
lens and I notice that the results are in
better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
there any reason for this? PJ
Paul Furman - 30 May 2008 07:35 GMT
> I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
> lens and I notice that the results are in
> better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
> there any reason for this? PJ
Smaller aperture for more depth of field plus most lenses don't do so
well wide open. The flash gives more light for shorter exposures (less
blur from shaking the camera) and/or closing the aperture (larger number).
Sorry if that was too abbreviated but those are the basic factors involved.
Bob - 30 May 2008 15:08 GMT
> > I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
> > lens and I notice that the results are in
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>
> Sorry if that was too abbreviated but those are the basic factors involved.
and very important,
flash 'shutter speed' is 1/100-1/1000th of a second,
which eliminates or reduces motion.
pure flash it is obvious, even fill flash the effect shows.
Richard J Kinch - 30 May 2008 08:53 GMT
> I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
> lens and I notice that the results are in
> better focus when I use the pop-up flash.
Compared to what? Daylight? Indoors? Dark side of the moon?
Pete D - 30 May 2008 23:13 GMT
>> I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
>> lens and I notice that the results are in
>> better focus when I use the pop-up flash.
>
> Compared to what? Daylight? Indoors? Dark side of the moon?
Not with flash a smart man would probably assume!
Peter Jason - 31 May 2008 01:21 GMT
>> I have an OlympusE500 with the standard
>> kit
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> Compared to what? Daylight? Indoors?
> Dark side of the moon?
I have 3 lenses for this camera, and the
sharpness is variable - even when I use a
tripod for shots over 1/60th sec. The lenses
are:
The kit lens 14-45mm F3.5-4.5
Zuiko 7-14 F4,
And just acquired 50mmMacroF2.0.
The first two seem to produce sharp results
on good sunny days with a tripod. In cloudy
weather, when I shoot cityscapes to avoid
shadows, the sharpness is not so good. Is it
necessary to have a deep histogram for good
focusing?
I am still assessing the 3rd lens, and though
it gives good results so far, the depth of
field will be a problem. The manual focusing
is MUCH easier with this lens.
Paul Furman - 31 May 2008 02:42 GMT
> ...sharp results
> on good sunny days with a tripod. In cloudy
> weather, when I shoot cityscapes to avoid
> shadows, the sharpness is not so good.
Depth of field might be less on the cloudy day in auto or program mode.
The camera doesn't know you have a tripod so it's trying to prevent too
slow a shutter speed for hand held. Use aperture priority mode and set
the aperture to f/5.6 or f/8. If you go up to f/11 or f/16 there will be
some overall drop in sharpness due to diffraction on the small pixels,
though depth of field increases.
> Is it necessary to have a deep histogram for good focusing?
You need plenty of light for good depth of field hand held but on a
tripod, it doesn't matter.

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me@mine.net - 30 May 2008 14:04 GMT
>I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
>lens and I notice that the results are in
>better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
>there any reason for this? PJ
Maybe, maybe not. Are you comparing shots with the same aperture and
shutter speed? My first thought is your non-flash shots are at a slow
shutter speed and suffer from some degree of motion blur. But as you have
not provided any detailed information about the specifics shots you are
comparing nor have posted the images with the exif info intact, any guess
at this point is mostly speculation.
william kossack - 30 May 2008 14:20 GMT
your non flash pics are probably not out of focus but suffering from
camera movement. when you use your flash the camera adjusts to an
exposure to match the sync speed of the flash (the actual duration of
the flash is much shorter) thus removing much of the movement that is
blurring the pic...a test to run is to put the camera on a tripod or
even set it on a table and take a pic with the flash and without
> I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
> lens and I notice that the results are in
> better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
> there any reason for this? PJ
Frank Arthur - 30 May 2008 19:06 GMT
>I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit lens and I notice that
>the results are in better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
>there any reason for this? PJ
In most instances flash seems to provide sharper images because the
duration of the flashes light is extremely brief. Much shorter that
the shutter that normally controls duration. Flash might operate for
1/1000th of a second or less. Without flash the shutter durations may
be ,often, between 1/25th of a second to 1/500th of a second. The
longer the shutter duration the better chance of camera shake causing
very small amounts of blur. Not normally enough to see an obvious blur
but not as sharp an image that was trapped ate 1/1000th of a second or
less.
Peter Jason - 31 May 2008 01:24 GMT
>>I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
>>lens and I notice that the results are in
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> image that was trapped ate 1/1000th of a
> second or less.
Thanks, The sharpness seems so much better I
thought the sensor might, in some way, react
favourably to the high-actinic light. I am
new to the flash methods which seem rather
involved but I will pursue it for close-ups.
Steve Sherman - 31 May 2008 01:33 GMT
> I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
> lens and I notice that the results are in
> better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
> there any reason for this? PJ
You need to hold the camera still. Try to just press the shutter button.
Don't try to push the camera at your finger or at the subject.
Years ago when my wife first picket up a camera, she looked like
the camera was trying to jump out of her hand and she was trying
to stop it.
Try a tripod and use the timer or sit the camera on something solid
and use the timer. Then check the focus results.
Better yet, get out in the sun and take some
pictures and check them.
Steve
Alan Browne - 31 May 2008 16:51 GMT
> I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
> lens and I notice that the results are in
> better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
> there any reason for this? PJ
Assuming you mean as opposed to no-flash:
Using flash "exposes" for a very brief time onto the sensor (2 ms down
to 100 microseconds or so), so the image is very "frozen" in time.
Non flash shots suffer mainly from hand holding movement as well as
subject movement.
You can get equally sharp non-flash shots if you use a tripod and shoot
at speeds that avoid the mirror slap effect range (about 1/10 to 1/125s
; but this depends on camera model).

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Angus Manwaring - 31 May 2008 17:41 GMT
On 30-May-08 05:58:30, Peter Jason said
>I have an OlympusE500 with the standard kit
>lens and I notice that the results are in
>better focus when I use the pop-up flash. Is
>there any reason for this? PJ
Apart from the possibility of camera movement, flash-on-camera is
providing a very contrasty light, and part of perceived sharpness is
contrast.
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