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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / April 2008Lets talk about noise. No I mean camera making noise.
I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an advanced amateur photographer. Now I do mostly bird photos. I have gotten my approach to the point that I get quite close to some birds and with some good lens I'm able to get what I consider great shots. But with the sound of auto focus the bird is often gone before the shutter opens. I use an Olympus E-510 and wonder about the comparison with the sound level of other systems. I am thinking of trying some sound absorbing cloth draped over my camera body to help absorb this distraction. Any advice will be appreciated. Charlie > I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an advanced amateur > photographer. Now I do mostly bird photos. I have gotten my approach > to the point that I get quite close to some birds and with some good > lens I'm able to get what I consider great shots. But with the sound > of auto focus the bird is often gone before the shutter opens. So use manual focus (usually a switch on the lens). Many dSLRs will give you a flash in the viewfinder and an optional beep when you get the subject in focus in manual focus mode. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan > > I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an advanced amateur > > photographer. Now I do mostly bird photos. I have gotten my approach [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > David J. Littleboy > Tokyo, Japan I often do just that. As you certainly know birds move around a lot even before the noise and the auto focus is handy and switching to manual (though I do it often) causes a missed shot too. Digital is so great with so many new advantages. New ones arrive with improvement. Charlie "dot" wrote > I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an > advanced amateur photographer. Now I do mostly bird [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sound of auto focus the bird is often gone before the > shutter opens. You´re talking about AF motor noise here? Then get a lens with a quiet ultrasonic AF drive (SWD) instead. > I use an Olympus E-510 and wonder about the comparison > with the sound level of other systems. Besides the sound your lens makes, the shutter of your body is another source of annoying sounds - i own a EOS 20D, Which unfortunately has one of the loudest shutter sounds available - almost impossible to shoot shy birds. My old Digital Rebel and the 10D where quite silent... so it really depends on the particular model. > I am thinking of trying some sound absorbing cloth draped > over my camera body to help absorb this distraction. There are cases available that are designed to mute any sound coming from a body, but they are bulky and expensive. I can´t recall the name of a brand or the correct term for such a device, though.... Regards, Markus On Apr 23, 8:29 am, "Markus Fuenfrocken" <mar...@fuenfrocken.de> wrote: > "dot" wrote> I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an > > advanced amateur photographer. Now I do mostly bird [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Regards, > Markus I will look into the "ultrasonic AF drive (SWD)". I'm not familiar with this. At present I have Myrtle and Audobon Warblers in our area and have gotten many decent shots at distance but when I've been able to have close shots, camera noise has spooked them and I get great blurred flight shots instead. These birds are flighty and even the physical movement, on their close approaches, that are required to change to manual focus causes flight Such is life with new and interesting new challanges. Anyhow, thanks to all for advice as some, or all of it, may get me shots I might not have gotten otherwise. Charlie . > Besides the sound your lens makes, the shutter of your body is another > source of annoying sounds - i own a EOS 20D, Which unfortunately has one of > the loudest shutter sounds available - almost impossible to shoot shy birds. > My old Digital Rebel and the 10D where quite silent... so it really depends > on the particular model. I can't imagine it would ever be as loud as my old Bronica SQ mirror slapping upward to allow a picture, but you never know.  SignatureReality is a picture perfected and never looking back. > In article <funkjp$p2...@online.de>, > . [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back. I used a friends Kowa 2x2 for awhile and that was like slapping two 2 x 4's togeather when the mirror slapped up. Some birds, though, don't need much to spook them. Charlie In article <fccbcf1f-f327-4315-bec0-76339a51135e@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > > In article <funkjp$p2...@online.de>, > > . [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Charlie Correct. If your eyes were as sharp as most bird's eye are and had as many BB guns with scopes pointed at you , you would spook easily too. It also depends on the bird, last week I photographed a Cardinal under the tree he was in with my 300m f2.8 not more than 50' away and the bird stayed put eating seeds to his heart's content. On the way home I spied a red tail hawk about 2,000 feet away i crept careful over a hill toward him and he flew away rather abruptly. SignatureReality is a picture perfected and never looking back. : In article : <fccbcf1f-f327-4315-bec0-76339a51135e@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] : spied a red tail hawk about 2,000 feet away i crept careful over a hill : toward him and he flew away rather abruptly. Cardinals don't mind people much. They'll build a nest in a bush right under the windowsill of your house and then go about their business as though you didn't even exist. Hawks are another story, but my wife once had a redtail land on the street in front of our house about 50 feet from where she was standing. She was astounded by how big he was; she estimated a 4-foot wingspan. Did she have her camera with her? Of course not. Sigh Bob > Cardinals don't mind people much. They'll build a nest in a bush right under > the windowsill of your house and then go about their business as though you > didn't even exist. Helps if you feed them too :) > Hawks are another story, but my wife once had a redtail land on the street in > front of our house about 50 feet from where she was standing. She was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Bob I have a Red Tail Hawk story too! Maybe less believable - here goes: Once upon a time I had just started doing 4x5 camera work, and I obligated my father's whim to photograph a scene he had always liked at a local stream- waterfalls where he had camped at as a younger man. So i had started doing photo because my dad liked it and I was an artist because my dad taught me to draw, then in high school I did photo because dad did photo in the air force and really liked it. In any event I always viewed that some greater power has helped me through various issues and has somewhat lead my choice to be a photographer to be stronger in desire than most, so on that day I photographed my first really good 4x5 image I found a red tail hawk feather, my omen. ©GWB2008 SignatureReality is a picture perfected and never looking back. : : > Cardinals don't mind people much. They'll build a nest in a bush right under [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] : stronger in desire than most, so on that day I photographed my first : really good 4x5 image I found a red tail hawk feather, my omen. My hawk story: About fifteen years ago I was walking my dog on a Sunday morning when a hawk descended into the neighborhood. Hawks are fond of crows' eggs, and he must have spotted a nest. But this time a cloud of crows gathered around the hawk and effectively rendered him helpless. Every time he'd get within 50 to 75 feet of the ground, the crows would get in his way, and he'd have to circle back up and try again. Finally he got tired of it all and flew away. In those pre-digital times I almost never carried a camera, so of course I didn't have one with me that day. Bob > You're talking about AF motor noise here? Then get a lens with a quiet > ultrasonic AF drive (SWD) instead. Beware of shy animals with hearing in the ultrasonic range. -Wolfgang > I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an advanced amateur > photographer. Now I do mostly bird photos. I have gotten my approach [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Charlie This is one of the big reasons the old Leica rangefinders were so popular. <sigh> Well, I think the cloth or a blind is probably your best bet, if you are that close. SignatureWaddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor > I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an advanced amateur > photographer. Now I do mostly bird photos. I have gotten my approach [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Charlie PURCHASE a "Blimp". They are used on movie sets by still photographers to quite their camera during dialog recording. They are very effective. They are manufactured in Los Angeles and sized for specific camera bodies. Regards, David : > I'm, I guess, what would honestly be considered an advanced amateur : > photographer. Now I do mostly bird photos. I have gotten my approach [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : effective. They are manufactured in Los Angeles and sized for specific : camera bodies. Regards, David Most of the noise comes from the mirror and the focal-plane shutter. Some P&S's are so quiet that they have a beep you can turn on to tell you that the picture was taken. Bob > Most of the noise comes from the mirror and the focal-plane shutter. Some > P&S's are so quiet that they have a beep you can turn on to tell you that the > picture was taken. Some of them even come with immitation mirror slap sounds, to make you feel better about your 'cheap' camera. (Remember that sound design is done to make you feel better about your car, your vacuum cleaner, your camera ...) -Wolfgang >> Most of the noise comes from the mirror and the focal-plane shutter. Some >> P&S's are so quiet that they have a beep you can turn on to tell you that the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -Wolfgang Lawn mower manufacturers have known for decades that noisy lawn mowers and leaf blowers sell better than quiet ones. People think they are more 'powerful.' SignatureWaddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor > >> Most of the noise comes from the mirror and the focal-plane shutter. Some > >> P&S's are so quiet that they have a beep you can turn on to tell you that [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and leaf blowers sell better than quiet ones. People think they are > more 'powerful.' You guys are friggin nuts. SignatureReality is a picture perfected and never looking back. > You guys are friggin nuts. says the guy with "____" as a name in his ID papers. -Wolfgang > > You guys are friggin nuts. > > says the guy with "____" as a name in his ID papers. > > -Wolfgang Likewise Wolfie. SignatureReality is a picture perfected and never looking back. >> > You guys are friggin nuts. >> says the guy with "____" as a name in his ID papers. > Likewise Wolfie. Well, if my name was fake, it would at least be believable. Yours will cause you to be arrested instantly when you have to show your identity papers. -Wolfgang > >> > You guys are friggin nuts. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Wolfgang My identity papers are in order, ever hear of Mt "Blanc" my lineage goes back to 1435 in Switzerland and the family castle is still there. SignatureReality is a picture perfected and never looking back. > My identity papers are in order, Real faked identity papers. A new trend. > ever hear of Mt "Blanc" Yes, it means "white mountain", not "empty space" or "4 underscores". As such it's *much* closer to my name than to yours. > my lineage goes > back to 1435 in Switzerland and the family castle is still there. Well, at least you managed a lucky accident at birth. That's something to be proud of. -Wolfgang |
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