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Nikon 18-200mm VR lens query
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Greenbrightly - 23 Jan 2008 13:57 GMT Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a 55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting to think it might have been better to spend the extra and get the 18-200mm VR lens. So I could effectively do away with the 18-55 kit lens and the 55-200. Is this something I should be thinking about? I don't have that much experience with DSLRs or lenses in particular, so I am not sure what people normally do. Is it better to have a lot of different lenses or try to whittle them down to a few 'all ecompassing' lenses for multi-purpose.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks,
Neil
David J Taylor - 23 Jan 2008 14:16 GMT > Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a > 55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Neil Neil,
I think that, had I been able to, I would have got the D40 and the 18-200mm VR. That would have served me very well. As it is, I have the same combination as you, and have recently also bought the 70 - 300mm as my interests also lie at the telephoto end. In some respects, I could now sell on the 55-200 VR, and live with the gap between 55 and 70mm, but I think I'll hang onto it as spare.
You undoubtedly do loose some pictures if you are changing lenses and, for my style of photography, the 18 - 200mm VR would have been ideal. Light and simple suits me best so the 18 - 55mm wins on weight and compact size, but the 18 - 200mm wins on simple!
Cheers, David
flambe - 23 Jan 2008 16:27 GMT I have the Nikon 18-200VR. It is a very heavy lens that is optically no better than the Sigma 18-200 non stabilized. I had both these lenses for awhile, I got the Nikon because I needed the VR, and in my many sided by side comparisons the Nikon did not win many if any and none at 18mm. If you are not squeamish about distortion at the wide end you could use an 18-200 as an everyday all purpose lens as it is convenient to rely on one of these SUV sized lenses for their zoom range. The 18-200s are great for travelling/trekking. Mine have survived better than I did in a variety of locales. But you will be toting around a behemoth camera/lens combination-I believe the Nikon 18-200 is larger and heavier than the D40 camera body. I would not get rid of your 18-55 as it is a visibly better performer at the wide end of the zoom. Before you tithe Nikon for an expensive, tanklike lens with mediocre optical performance but excellent VR check out the Sigma 18-200 OS for a few hundred dollars less. I own and have used the Nikon extensively and I strongly recommend you check out the Sigma.
nospam - 23 Jan 2008 17:34 GMT > I have the Nikon 18-200VR. > It is a very heavy lens that is optically no better than the Sigma 18-200 > non stabilized. it's not 'very heavy' and it's much better than sigma's 18-200. look at photozone's reviews, for instance.
> But you will be toting around a behemoth camera/lens combination-I > believe the Nikon 18-200 is larger and heavier than the D40 camera body. only slightly. the 18-200 is 560 grams and the d40 is 475 grams, and the d40 is wider than the lens is long (when retracted).
> Before you tithe Nikon for an expensive, tanklike lens with mediocre optical > performance but excellent VR check out the Sigma 18-200 OS for a few hundred > dollars less. I own and have used the Nikon extensively and I strongly > recommend you check out the Sigma. the stabilization on the sigma is noticably worse than the nikon (it's even visible in the viewfinder) and the lens is slower at the long end (f/6.3) which can affect focus in non-ideal conditions. the price difference is small, now that the nikon version is not hard to find anymore. also, the sigma is even *heavier* than the supposedly 'very heavy' nikon lens (610 grams versus 560 grams) as well as slightly longer in length.
Jürgen Exner - 23 Jan 2008 17:32 GMT >Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a >55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >different lenses or try to whittle them down to a few 'all >ecompassing' lenses for multi-purpose. That totally depends on what _you_ want to do. - a single zoom with a large zoom range is typically more convenient. At the low bugdet end typically it is also cheaper than several individual lenses. - multiple lenses with shorter zoom ranges typically have better picture quality with less distortion, in particular at the short and long ends of their respective zoom areas.
Designing a zoom lens is always a struggle for compromise and much more so when the zoom range is large like the 11x for the 18-200.
Highest quality and fastest lenses you can typically still only find in lenses with fixed focal length.
jue
Roy Smith - 24 Jan 2008 01:23 GMT J?rgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Designing a zoom lens is always a struggle for compromise Designing anything from airplanes to laptop computers to desert toppings is a struggle for compromise. Make it better in one way, and it's got to become worse in some other way. Nothing magic about optical design which exempts it from that law.
Jürgen Exner - 24 Jan 2008 05:44 GMT >J?rgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >become worse in some other way. Nothing magic about optical design which >exempts it from that law. True. Maybe I should have been more specific: the larger the zoom range the more the designer has to compromise and accept weak performance in at least one area.
jue
Robert Peirce - 23 Jan 2008 18:02 GMT In article <1906ce0b-606b-4fd3-902b-54f8cb44d306@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a > 55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > different lenses or try to whittle them down to a few 'all > ecompassing' lenses for multi-purpose. I went through the identical situation and decided to take the cheap way out. The 55-200 was only $200, and the two lenses may have better optics, although I really can't vouch for that.
The 70-300 was interesting, but it left a gap. Apparently there is an 18-70 that avoids that gap. Also, I figured if I ever really needed anything beyond 200, which is about the same as a 300 on a 35mm camera, I could always get a tele-converter. I've used them before, and while I don't much like them, they are useful in an emergency.
Finally, if you decide to go with the 18-200, not only do you have to spend a lot of money, but you have to get rid of the 18-55 and the 55-200.
People say DSLRs are more prone to dust problems than SLRs, so you want to avoid changing lenses as much as possible. I think it might be better to just try to avoid dusty locations as much as possible or be prepared to have the right lens on your camera when you go in. So far I haven't had a problem, but maybe it is because I have been able to avoid changing lenses in dusty locations.
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acl - 24 Jan 2008 00:36 GMT On Jan 23, 9:02 pm, Robert Peirce <b...@peirce-family.com.invalid> wrote:
> People say DSLRs are more prone to dust problems than SLRs, so you want > to avoid changing lenses as much as possible. I think it might be > better to just try to avoid dusty locations as much as possible or be > prepared to have the right lens on your camera when you go in. So far I > haven't had a problem, but maybe it is because I have been able to avoid > changing lenses in dusty locations. An easy precaution you can take is to use a blower brush, with the brush removed, to blow on the sensor every few weeks, or if a dust spot appears. Simple and quick, and I've been doing this for almost 2 years with my d200 and have had no problems with dust (and I change lenses a couple of times a day at least). But it's not too dusty here. Humidity might also have an effect, I don't know.
Tony Polson - 23 Jan 2008 18:10 GMT >Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a >55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Any advice would be great. The best optical quality of all comes from fixed focal length lenses. The best pro zoom lenses come close to the performance of fixed focal length lenses, but they cost a lot of money.
In the consumer price range, shorter zoom ratios tend to give better optical quality. Longer zoom ratios tend to give poor quality. The 11X ratio of the 18-200mm is way past the point where you can expect decent optical quality.
If you want to throw away the optical advantages of an DSLR over a point and shoot, go buy an 18-200mm lens. They are all optically very poor, so buy the cheapest 11X zoom that you can find. That way, you will waste the minimum amount of money.
Sorry to be so terse, but after 10 years of reading people asking the same questions in online forums, there has been no improvement whatsoever in the optical qualities of 11X zoom lenses. So I get a little impatient with people who think that they are worth buying.
;-)
HankB - 23 Jan 2008 18:14 GMT > Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a > ... So I could effectively do away with the 18-55 kit > lens ... Hi Neil, One drawback to the 18-200 is that it blocks the built in flash at wider angles. You might wish to keep the 18-55 to cover that situation and perhaps be useful when weight is a concern.
-hank
Jay - 23 Jan 2008 18:35 GMT The 18-200 is a good lens. Excellent walk around lens. If you're sensitive about the 18 mm distortion it is easily fixed in most software. I've shot horse shows and jumps with it and it really keeps up with the auto focus very nicely. I can comfortably freeze a horse running or in the middle of a jump at 1/500th or more, outside, no problem. Good VR that works. Do I wish it was 2.8? Sure but it isn't, and shooting horse shows with just one lens in places where there's lots of sand and mud flying around in the wind and never have to change a lens is a pure luxury.
Who cares if the lens is bigger than the camera? Have you seen this lens: http://www.trademe.co.nz:80/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Ca non/auction-136607550.htm ? ? ? ?
Now, is the 18-200 as good as the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G at 200? http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-70-200mm-Nikkor-Digital-Cameras/dp/B00009MDBQ/ref=sr _1_10?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1201112975&sr=8-10
Hell No!
You decide what is important to you. Perhaps buying the 18-200 will keep you going for a while, or at least until they make a camera that's bigger than the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G.
J
> Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a > 55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Neil Neil Harrington - 23 Jan 2008 19:07 GMT > Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a > 55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting > to think it might have been better to spend the extra and get the > 18-200mm VR lens. So I could effectively do away with the 18-55 kit > lens and the 55-200. Is this something I should be thinking about? Depends on how much you hate changing lenses. I have all three of those and like them all. In my opinion while the 18-200 VR is a wonderful lens to have, it does not really replace the 18-55 kit lens and the 55-200 VR. The 18-55 is delightfully compact, light weight, sharp and exceptionally close focusing. The 55-200 VR is also relatively compact and light (the 18-200 VR is substantially heavier), very sharp and takes the same filter size as the 18-55 -- and filters in that 52mm size are much less expensive than the 72mm ones the 18-200 requires. I don't really find most filters as important with digital as they were with film, but I think a polarizer is a good thing to have.
So whether or not you buy the 18-200 VR or whatever, I'd keep the 18-55 and 55-200 VR if I were you. That's a very nice pair of lenses. And selling them would not bring you half the price of an 18-200 VR.
Neil
Greenbrightly - 23 Jan 2008 22:44 GMT Thanks v much for the advice everyone, I wasn't expecting to get all this information it's great. It's good to know that people have been in the same situation as me. I guess I'm just getting started with DSLRs which is why I bought the D40, as the price appealed to me; I suppose that is a factor. I wanted something a bit longer so I went for the 55-200 VR, I do like the lens a great deal. So it looks like the best thing to do would be stick with what I have for the time being and I think that's good advice, certainly in terms of cost rather than nothing else, as the 18-200 lens is quite a bit more expensive. Maybe in a few years time if I think about getting a better Nikon like a D80 or something I could rethink the lens situation.
I also recently bought a Nikkor 50mm f1.8 lens, I paid around £60 for it which to me even though it wont auto-focus with the D40 was great value. I'm really enjoying using that prime lens as I like the bokeh type shots, even though focusing is something a bit of a hit-and-miss affair I love the wide aperture stuff too. So that is another lens to my arsenal if nothing else ;)
Tony Polson - 23 Jan 2008 23:40 GMT >I also recently bought a Nikkor 50mm f1.8 lens, I paid around £60 for >it which to me even though it wont auto-focus with the D40 was great >value. I'm really enjoying using that prime lens as I like the bokeh >type shots That lens has just about the worst, harshest bokeh of any Nikkor, indeed of any lens I have ever used in the last 35 years.
You need to learn what "bokeh" actually means before you start sprinkling it in sentences like sugar on your corn flakes.
Neil Harrington - 24 Jan 2008 00:12 GMT > I also recently bought a Nikkor 50mm f1.8 lens, I paid around £60 for > it which to me even though it wont auto-focus with the D40 was great > value. I'm really enjoying using that prime lens as I like the bokeh > type shots, even though focusing is something a bit of a hit-and-miss > affair I love the wide aperture stuff too. So that is another lens to > my arsenal if nothing else ;) Yes indeed, the 50/1.8 is a great little lens and a great bargain. If you find focusing uncertain with it, are you aware of the focus indicator in the lower left corner of the viewfinder? While of course not as convenient as autofocus, it does permit very accurate manual focusing.
Just FYI, "prime lens" does not mean fixed focal length lens, even though lots of people here in the newsgroups misuse it that way and the misusage has even occasionally spread to the printed page. "Prime lens" really means the camera lens (whether fixed focal length or zoom, it's still the prime lens) as opposed to some other lens or optical device used with it, such as a closeup lens or tele converter.
Granted, "fixed focal length" is an inconveniently long thing to write, which is why the nice, short but ignorant "prime" has become so popular. A useful abbreviation for the correct term is "FFL," and its use is to be strongly encouraged.
If we got rid of smallpox and polio we ought to be able to end the misusage of "prime" as well. That's not happening yet, but hope springs eternal.
Neil
Greenbrightly - 24 Jan 2008 08:50 GMT > > I also recently bought a Nikkor 50mm f1.8 lens, I paid around £60 for > > it which to me even though it wont auto-focus with the D40 was great [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Neil I'll take it on board thanks.
Sosumi - 24 Jan 2008 11:22 GMT > Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a > 55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks, Getting a lens that outperforms your camera can be a good idea if you plan a better camera later. Don't get me wrong: I had the D40, D40x, D80 and now I have the D300, so I think I know (within reason ;-) what I'm talking about. The first thing I would do, is replace the D40 with the D40x. Going from 6 to 10 MP is a big difference. I also found the D40x better with light metering, even better than the D80 (now comes the storm of objectors). In ergonomics the D80 would be a better choice for a man; a woman may prefer the lighter D40x. But if you want to start with a lens, forget about the hype of the 18-200 VR: it's very over rated and not really as good as to be expected for the money. A much better lens is the 18-135. No VR but much better and sharper than the 18-200. Matter of fact, SLRGear rates it 9.25 for image quality versus 8.19 for the 18-200. It also scores better than the more expensive 18-70, adding almost twice the zoom. You save quite a lot of money, better lens and much less weight and volume (380 versus 560 grams!). After long searching and reading I got it myself for the D300 and I'm very pleased.
Maybe you'll save up some money and get the 70-300 VR later. That one is on my wish list, next.
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Steve - 25 Jan 2008 03:04 GMT >Hi, I've been using a Nikon D40 for a while and have since bought a >55-200mm VR lens. This seemed to be quite good value but I'm starting [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >different lenses or try to whittle them down to a few 'all >ecompassing' lenses for multi-purpose. Just about everyone who uses the 18-200 VR loves it. That should tell you something. That being said, I think you'll notice the weight difference between the 18-200 vs. either the 18-55 or 55-200 more with your D40 than with my D200, which is already a much heavier body. The 18-200 weighs a tiny bit little more than both of those lenses together. But it sure is fast and convenient to be able to go through that zoom range without changing lenses.
If the 18-135 had VR I might go with that if it were significantly cheaper then the 18-200 VR. That's because there isn't nearly as much difference in the field of view between 135 and 200 than say between 55 and 135. But the 18-135 is only maybe $200 cheaper and it doesn't have VR, which you already know you really appreciate with a slow long lens.
But, the best person to answer your specific question is you. When you're taking pictures with your 18-55 and 55-200, how often do you feel the need to change lenses? And how much more convenient for *you* would it be if you could just twist the zoom ring vs. switch the lens? If the type of photography you do doesn't require much lens switching or there isn't much of a problem to change them, keep what you have. Otherwise, get the 18-200VR. You'll love it.
Steve
Tony Polson - 25 Jan 2008 09:05 GMT >Just about everyone who uses the 18-200 VR loves it. That should tell >you something. It should tell you that the world is full of undiscerning people who don't understand the meaning of "optical quality", and instead buy on the basis of laziness. The only reason to buy an 18-200mm lens is so that you won't ever take it off your camera. In which case why buy a DSLR at all? Why not buy a point and shoot camera or bridge camera with an >11X zoom?
There is no such thing as a good 11X zoom lens, unless you go into the world of television and pay tens of thousands of dollars. Just as with 28-300mm lenses on 35mm film cameras, these consumer grade superzooms costing a few hundred dollars are all junk. Some are slightly less bad than others, but they are all optically poor.
But that won't stop them selling in their millions, because there is no shortage of undiscerning people who have low expectations and will therefore not be disappointed.
Moro Grubb of Little Delving - 25 Jan 2008 15:32 GMT >>Just about everyone who uses the 18-200 VR loves it. That should tell >>you something. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > no shortage of undiscerning people who have low expectations and will > therefore not be disappointed. By this logic, everybody should be driving a Ferrari or Rolls Royce, and all Fords, Chevs, Volkswagens, Toyota, Hondas etc are "junk". Not everybody needs the tools to drive 150 MPH, or the means to do so.
I have a D40 with the kit 18-55, the 55-200 VR, and the 18-200 VR, and can say that the 55-200 hasn't been on the camera since I got the 18-200. I have no aspirations of working for National Geographic, but my results have been quite satisfying. I love it.
I would consider disposing of the 55-200, but would probably keep the 18-55 because its so small and light, and there are occasions where I won't want to tote the 18-200 (social functions, etc)
/M
Tony Polson - 25 Jan 2008 15:59 GMT >I have a D40 with the kit 18-55, the 55-200 VR, and the 18-200 VR, and can >say that the 55-200 hasn't been on the camera since I got the 18-200. I'm not surprised. The 18-55mm is one of the worst lenses that has ever been offered under the Nikon brand. The 55-200mm is so variable that you never know what results you will get from one. The 18-200mm is just as bad as the other two combined, so you might as well leave it on the camera and forget about the others.
Have you ever used any good lenses? I don't mean Leica, Zeiss or anything exotic. There are plenty of good Nikkors. It's just that they don't include any of the three consumer lenses that you have, which are basically junk lenses built down to a consumer-grade price.
Try a 50mm f/1.8 and you will see results that are much, much sharper than any of your three lenses can produce. But stick to consumer-grade zooms and you will get only consumer-grade results.
Neil Harrington - 25 Jan 2008 17:26 GMT >> I have a D40 with the kit 18-55, the 55-200 VR, and the 18-200 VR, >> and can say that the 55-200 hasn't been on the camera since I got >> the 18-200. > > I'm not surprised. The 18-55mm is one of the worst lenses that has > ever been offered under the Nikon brand. That's utter nonsense. The 18-55 is a great little lens, very sharp, very light and handy, and unusually close focusing for that kind of a lens.
You may be thinking of the Canon 18-55, which is so notorious for its poor quality that even Canon enthusiasts call it trash.
> The 55-200mm is so variable > that you never know what results you will get from one. There's bound to be *some* variability in any lenses and especially zooms, but I'm sure you grossly exaggerate the case of the 55-200 VR -- which has gotten excellent reviews in published lens tests as well as from enthusiastic owners. And I'm very happy with mine.
> The 18-200mm > is just as bad as the other two combined, so you might as well leave [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > they don't include any of the three consumer lenses that you have, > which are basically junk lenses built down to a consumer-grade price. Nonsense repeated several times is still nonsense. It never improves with repetition.
> Try a 50mm f/1.8 and you will see results that are much, much sharper > than any of your three lenses can produce. Indeed, I have a 50/1.8 Nikkor in addition to the others mentioned here and it's great. I have an 85/1.8 also and that's great too. However, I seldom carry either of these truly great lenses around on the camera because they have one very serious drawback -- they're stuck at those respective focal lengths, and therefore lack the flexibility, versatility and convenience of the zooms. And for most ordinary purposes -- viewing on a computer screen or reasonably sized prints -- you can't see the difference anyway. So for me the 50 and 85 primarily serve as available-light lenses.
> But stick to > consumer-grade zooms and you will get only consumer-grade results. Better those than vacuous snobbishness any day of the week.
Neil
Sosumi - 25 Jan 2008 20:44 GMT >>> I have a D40 with the kit 18-55, the 55-200 VR, and the 18-200 VR, >>> and can say that the 55-200 hasn't been on the camera since I got [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Better those than vacuous snobbishness any day of the week. I totally agree with you. I've had the 18-55, 18-70 and 55-200 VR. Now I have only the 50 1.8 and the 18-135. The 18-55 is quite good. I got some very good pictures with it. Only drawback is the lack of zoom length. I traded all for what I have now and hope to get a 70-300 VR in the near future. Funny enough people are so happy with the 18-200 VR, like it's a miracle. It isn't. If something moves, you still need more speeds ;-) I just think it's way too heavy, expensive and doesn't perform as well for it's price as the 135.
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Neil Harrington - 25 Jan 2008 22:03 GMT >>> "Moro Grubb of Little Delving" <scarlettnell@nospamhotmail.com> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > I just think it's way too heavy, expensive and doesn't perform as > well for it's price as the 135. I have both but haven't really compared them side by side. I love the 18-135 myself. It's about as long a non-stabilized lens as I can comfortably hand hold on a DX camera without bracing against something solid. The 18-200 VR cost so much I worry about traveling with it, which takes some of the fun out of owning it. I don't like to carry real expensive stuff in airline terminals. I suppose that's silly, but . . .
I'll be going to Florida in a couple of weeks, and haven't made my mind up between taking either the 18-135, or the 18-55 and 55-200 VR.
Neil
Jay - 26 Jan 2008 03:19 GMT Or instead of the 18-135, the 18-55, the 55-200 you could just bring the single 18-200.
Lighter, cheaper if you loose all your equipment vs loosing three lenses, not to mention you won't have to change a lens.
J
> I'll be going to Florida in a couple of weeks, and haven't made my mind up > between taking either the 18-135, or the 18-55 and 55-200 VR. > > Neil Tony Polson - 26 Jan 2008 08:55 GMT >Or instead of the 18-135, the 18-55, the 55-200 you could just bring the >single 18-200. > >Lighter, cheaper if you loose all your equipment vs loosing three lenses, >not to mention you won't have to change a lens. And what's the reason you buy a DSLR?
So you don't ever have to change lenses?
Wilba - 26 Jan 2008 11:47 GMT >> Or instead of the 18-135, the 18-55, the 55-200 you could just bring >> the single 18-200. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So you don't ever have to change lenses? You sound like you're picking a fight, Tony. :-) 'Cos I'm certain you well know that lens interchangability isn't the only reason for chosing a DSLR.
Jay - 27 Jan 2008 00:01 GMT Nope! But it is the reason we buy an 18-200 lens.
J
> And what's the reason you buy a DSLR? > > So you don't ever have to change lenses? Tony Polson - 27 Jan 2008 13:02 GMT >Nope! >But it is the reason we buy an 18-200 lens. So the fact that the lens is junk, optically, doesn't come into it.
Neil Harrington - 27 Jan 2008 17:44 GMT >>Nope! >>But it is the reason we buy an 18-200 lens. > > So the fact that the lens is junk, optically, doesn't come into it. It isn't "junk, optically." That's simply absurd.
The 18-200 VR has been by far the most sought-after Nikon lens in recent memory, selling at well over its list price for more than a year after its introduction. The reason for this is that it's an enormously useful tool for photographers, including many of those who make their living with a camera. The fact that you personally object to its impressive 11x zoom range does not make it "junk."
When you see a $750 list price lens selling for over $1,000 month after month after month, that should suggest to you that there's something mighty special about it that makes it so popular.
Obviously, any superzoom must make some compromises for the sake of zoom range. But after testing the Nikon 18-200 VR thoroughly Pop Photo says, "Optically, this is the best superzoom we've seen." http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/2763/lens-test-nikon-18-200mm-f35-56g-dx-vr -af-s.html
wally - 27 Jan 2008 20:28 GMT I this review from popphoto it says this lens is not compatible with Nikon teleconverters, extension rings etc.
Could someone tell me why?
thanks
>>>Nope! >>>But it is the reason we buy an 18-200 lens. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > "Optically, this is the best superzoom we've seen." > http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/2763/lens-test-nikon-18-200mm-f35-56g-dx-vr -af-s.html Neil Harrington - 27 Jan 2008 20:59 GMT >I this review from popphoto it says this lens is not compatible with Nikon >teleconverters, extension rings etc. > > Could someone tell me why? > > thanks It's f/5.6 at the long end, so even a 1.4x tele converter would make it f/8 wide open which is probably not a large enough relative aperture for autofocus to work reliably. Not owning either, I don't know whether tele converters and/or extension tubes send the necessary lens information to the camera body, but if they don't that would be another reason.
Neil
nospam - 27 Jan 2008 21:09 GMT > I this review from popphoto it says this lens is not compatible with Nikon > teleconverters, extension rings etc. nikon teleconverters have a protruding element that can hit the rear element of the 18-200. teleconverters from third parties don't have this issue and generally work.
another issue is that the lens is already f/5.6 at the long end and that's the official limit of the autofocus sytem. any teleconverter will add at least one stop, bringing it past the official limit and potentially affecting focusing. however, in reality, it's not a problem except in very dim light.
as for extension rings, the design of the lens is such that adding one prevents the lens from focusing on anything. that's not unusual with very sophisticated lens designs. close-up lenses work fine, but a real macro lens is ideal.
Neil Harrington - 27 Jan 2008 01:24 GMT > Or instead of the 18-135, the 18-55, the 55-200 you could just bring the > single 18-200. > > Lighter, cheaper if you loose all your equipment vs loosing three lenses, Well, I wouldn't take all three. It would be the 18-135 *or* the 18-55 and 55-200 VR. In either case that would be losing less money than if I lost the 18-200 VR. And the 18-200 VR is substantially heavier than any of the others.
> not to mention you won't have to change a lens. Yes, that'd be really the one big plus over the two lighter lenses. Of course with the 18-135 alone I wouldn't have to change lenses either, but that would put me at more of a disadvantage when shooting gliding pelicans. Oh well, I still have almost two weeks to decide.
Neil
ASAAR - 31 Jan 2008 06:15 GMT > I'll be going to Florida in a couple of weeks, and haven't made my mind up > between taking either the 18-135, or the 18-55 and 55-200 VR. You, more than most others here are likely to have more than one DSLR body. If so, why not take one with the 18-135 mounted on it and the 55-200VR on the other? Dust during lens changes won't be a problem unless one of the bodies fails, and then you'll have a backup body to save the day! :)
Neil Harrington - 31 Jan 2008 15:18 GMT >> I'll be going to Florida in a couple of weeks, and haven't made my mind >> up [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > problem unless one of the bodies fails, and then you'll have a > backup body to save the day! :) That's true, but I'm seriously trying to keep size and weight down. And I'll be taking a Coolpix along with the DSLR, mostly for shooting out the airplane window. (I want to try some aerial stereo photography, using the distance the plane flies between shots as the stereo base, and I think a small camera is better suited to that.)
Neil
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