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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / January 2008Rate Olympus
I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob to photography)? I like the fact that it has inbody stabilisation. How do the lenses rate - Zucor Digital is it? I've read the review at dpreview.com. I own an s3is and need better low light performance. In article <749fae88-db51-406e-8689-48bb9eaea09c@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend > the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob to photography)? I > like the fact that it has inbody stabilisation. How do the lenses rate > - Zucor Digital is it? I've read the review at dpreview.com. I own an > s3is and need better low light performance. Maybe it's because there's better gear for the money... > In article > <749fae88-db51-406e-8689-48bb9eaea...@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Maybe it's because there's better gear for the money... Depends on the camera. The E-510 is as good or better (for what you get) than anything in it's price range. Is there a healthy choice of lenses to go with their dSLRs? Is there a healthy choice of lenses to go with their dSLRs? > Is there a healthy choice of lenses to go with their dSLRs? Sure, for most people. They have the best kit lenses going, their pro lenses cover equivalent f.ls from 14mm to 300mm and their super pro lenses (for those with deeper pockets) are as good as they get and go up to a 600mm equivalent, more with teleconverters. Their weakness is the lack of prime lenses. Currently, they only have an 8mm fisheye, 35mm macro, 50mm macro and very pricey 150mm f2 telephoto and 300mm f2.8 telephoto, the rest are zooms. However, because the 4/3rds system products are usable on any brands, there are some other options. Leica makes a 25mm f1.4 prime for 4/3rds and Sigma has made a number of their DX type lenses in the 4/3rds mount. In article <17fed15e-9a11-4a12-b4ab-357ee51ce76d@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, > Depends on the camera. The E-510 is as good or better (for what you > get) than anything in it's price range. No thanks...I'll pass. > In article > <749fae88-db51-406e-8689-48bb9eaea...@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Maybe it's because there's better gear for the money... Olympus make some of the absolutely best lenses in the world. Canon make some of the absolutely best cameras in the world. Nikon make the absolutely best flash system. Perceived Image quality is not everything. Olympus cameras do not have a very wide dynamic range of capture. Last century, photographers learned to live with narrow dynamic range using slide film. Those who couldn't, used negative film. Given the choice between great lenses and exceptional flash control, or perceived image quality, I would be hard pressed to make the choice easily. I bought a E300 Olympus a few years ago. It's images taken under the right lighting conditions were stunning. Beyond anything my 20 Canon could produce. Sadly sunlight was this camera's worst enemy. Even sadder is that Olympus's new flagship E3 is about 3 years old technically speaking. I'm very much afraid the financial might of Mitsubishi (who own Nikon) and Canon is such that pouring a few hundred million into sensor development only sends a tremmor through them where it would shake the financial foundations of Olympus. Until Panasonic or Olympus actually devote the money, time and expertise to develop ground breaking new sensors like are in the new Nikons, Olympus will remain a nice alternative consumer camera taht no experienced or professional photographer will bother with their DSLRs. Sad really because I love their lenses. I have just purchased the E-510 and so far, am impressed with it's capabilities and lens performance. The learning curve with all it's controls and facilities will take a little while. Changed over from Olympus OM and a simple Panasonic digital P&S. Cheers, Peter S. ****************** >I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend > the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob to photography)? I > like the fact that it has inbody stabilisation. How do the lenses rate > - Zucor Digital is it? I've read the review at dpreview.com. I own an > s3is and need better low light performance. > I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone > recommend the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob > to photography)? I like the fact that it has inbody stabilisation. > How do the lenses rate - Zucor Digital is it? I've read the review > at dpreview.com. I own an s3is and need better low light > performance. I had an E-510 for about five weeks. It took fine photos for my modest purposes (I don't do big prints), but I found it cranky to use and in the end I didn't really want to. For instance, the menus are cryptic in comparison to some of its competitors. The lenses get good reviews, and I have no complaints. The stabilisation is worth two steps. I expect that there will be fewer rather than more brands of 4/3 systems in the future. >I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend > the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob to photography)? I > like the fact that it has inbody stabilisation. How do the lenses rate > - Zucor Digital is it? I've read the review at dpreview.com. I own an > s3is and need better low light performance. I've had an E-300 for over 3 years with the kit lens, the 50 mm f2 and the 50-200 Oly telephoto. I use it for business and pleasure. I've dragged it through many construction sites and inspections of sewer and water treatment plants, been out in blizzards and northeasters photographing surf, and it has performed flawlessly. The lenses are superb. I look forward to getting an E-3. I have a friend who has a Nikon D-80, I would not switch. The camera and the lenses are well built and tough. > I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend > the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob to photography)? I > like the fact that it has inbody stabilisation. How do the lenses rate > - Zucor Digital is it? I've read the review at dpreview.com. I own an > s3is and need better low light performance. I considered Nikon, Canon, Oly, and Pentax when buying my first DSLR recently... and it came down to Oly vs. Pentax. Things I liked a lot about the Oly E510: * in-body stabilization * live preview (though I doubt I'd use it that much) * great kit lenses * lightweight cameras Things I didn't like: * not much lens selection, and expensive * body is a little too small for my hands * viewfinder is small and dim * many firsthand reports of poor dynamic range (due to small 4/3 sensor) I ended up getting the Pentax K10D, which I am enjoying immensely. It has a large, weather-sealed body and in-body stabilization, a great viewfinder, a decent kit lens, and a huge lens selection going back 30 years. No live preview, a bit heavy, and an amazing steal for $580 with the kit lens. Dan > > I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend > > the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob to photography)? I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Dan The irony when comparing Pentax to Olympus is the focusing confirmation with older lenses. Pentax allows this, Olympus does not. Meanwhile Olympus NEEDS this because its viewfinder is poor, making manual focusing difficult with some lenses, whereas Pentax's viewfinder isn't poor. Additionally, you can mount any lens you want on an Olympus, from any maker save (I think) Canon so the poor Olympus viewfinder is a major issue, unless you never manually focus a lens! Meanwhile, Pentax will only take Pentax-aimed lenses and some old screw-mount lenses with an adapter. Mind you, there is a good number of legacy lenses out there, which help to make up for the shortfalls in the current Pentax line-up. > The irony when comparing Pentax to Olympus is the focusing confirmation > with older lenses. Pentax allows this, Olympus does not. Meanwhile > Olympus NEEDS this because its viewfinder is poor, making manual > focusing difficult with some lenses, whereas Pentax's viewfinder isn't > poor. Wow, I didn't realize this feature wasn't standard on *all* DSLRs... I absolutely love this feature, as my only telephoto lens right now is a 70-200mm manual focus. So easy to get good shots with the focus confirm, almost takes the effort out of it! > Additionally, you can mount any lens you want on an Olympus, from > any maker save (I think) Canon so the poor Olympus viewfinder is a major > issue, unless you never manually focus a lens! Meanwhile, Pentax will > only take Pentax-aimed lenses and some old screw-mount lenses with an > adapter. Mind you, there is a good number of legacy lenses out there, > which help to make up for the shortfalls in the current Pentax line-up. Why aren't there more adapters for Pentax? Is it because the lens-to- flange distance is larger than other models, so lenses with passive adapters couldn't focus to infinity? Or lack of demand? Or something else? Dan > +AD4 The irony when comparing Pentax to Olympus is the focusing confirmation > +AD4 with older lenses. Pentax allows this, Olympus does not. Meanwhile [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Dan That's why. They won't reach infinity focus. The only way you could adapt them is to use a negative relay lens (essentially, a teleconverter) and that would change the design of the lens, probably effect the optical quality. Nikon is the same. >> I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend >> the e410/510 as a first SLR for someone (not a noob to photography)? I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Dan Wow. Where did you manage to find such an awesome price on the Pentax? Hi there! Htnakirs schrieb: > I rarely see any discussion on dSLRs from Olly. Would anyone recommend b'coz the oly-users make photos instead of discussing about the gear they use? ;-) > - Zucor Digital is it? I've read the review at dpreview.com. I own an > s3is and need better low light performance. The Lenses, esp. the Pro & Top-Pro line are the best you can get for your money (take a look at the costs of equally lenses from the other manufactureres, an see by yourself, that the Zuikos are in fact cheaper). The 510 isn't that bad, but if you want to use ISO 1600 and above, take a look at the EOS 40D. The new Oly E-3 is a true winner for the e-System, but it ends on usable ISO1600~2000. If you have to invest in a total new system, the E-3 with 2-3 Top-Pro-Lenses will equally fit your needs, I think. On top you will get the only working dust-removal system found on a dslr-system. If you want to stay with your lenses from the S3 (Nikon-mount, I think) take the new Nikon D300. Hope I could be a helping hand to sort it out ;-) Roland |
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