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patricia - 24 Oct 2007 02:39 GMT
Guys & Gals

To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm thinking of
getting 1 soon

regards
Jürgen Exner - 24 Oct 2007 03:50 GMT
> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think

I am happy. Certainly not top of the line, but just as certainly not bottom
of the heap either. It does what I expect it to do and then some. So far no
complaints or problems.

> i'm thinking of getting 1 soon

You may want to order the leather pouch, too. It really protects the camera
including attached 18-135.

jue
Lusus Naturae - 24 Oct 2007 04:54 GMT
"J?rgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think
> I am happy. Certainly not top of the line, but just as certainly not bottom
> of the heap either. It does what I expect it to do and then some. So far no
> complaints or problems.

I concur; I've had mine for about 9 months now and have yet to find any
areas that it completely fails at.  I find the interface easy to read
quickly, the ergonomics comfortable, and the pictures crisp.

That said, my only negative observations are that it seems to overexpose
very slightly.  This may be from my relative lack of skill, as it seems to
have improved now that I'll working purely in Manual mode.  Also,
specifically with the 18-135 lens, low light is not your friend.  IIRC it
only hits f4.5 at the best of times...

> You may want to order the leather pouch, too. It really protects the camera
> including attached 18-135.

Indeed, a good bag is essential, and I've just invested in a tripod
(unsteady hands + living in a place where the sun is a vague rumor in the
winter months = poor results).

Good luck,
Lusus Naturae

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David J Taylor - 24 Oct 2007 07:48 GMT
> Guys & Gals
>
> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm
> thinking of getting 1 soon
>
> regards

Would the 18 - 200mm with its longer reach and image stabilisation be a
better choice as a single walk-round lens?

David
Pete D - 24 Oct 2007 08:15 GMT
>> Guys & Gals
>>
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>
> David

Probably but how much more are they?
David J Taylor - 24 Oct 2007 08:39 GMT
>>> Guys & Gals
>>>
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>
> Probably but how much more are they?

You should ask your local supplier or Internet retailer!

Pixmania:
 http://www.pixmania.co.uk/camera-lenses/ukuk1_433_pm.html

18 - 200 GBP 505
18 - 135 not listed

David
Jürgen Exner - 24 Oct 2007 13:27 GMT
>> "David J Taylor"
>> <david-taylor@blueyonder.not-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote in
>>>> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm
>>> Would the 18 - 200mm with its longer reach and image stabilisation
>> Probably but how much more are they?

Street price more than double.

jue
Jürgen Exner - 24 Oct 2007 13:26 GMT
>> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm
>> thinking of getting 1 soon
>
> Would the 18 - 200mm with its longer reach and image stabilisation be
> a better choice as a single walk-round lens?

If you don't mind the almost 50% more weight and more than double the price
tag.
Besides, I am always skeptical about those super-zooms with a zoom factor of
11 and http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/250/cat/13 
seems to agree:
"An old expression says that there's never a free lunch, and this is
especially true with lenses. In the case of the Nikon 18-200, the tradeoffs
are somewhat soft corners at maximum aperture and medium focal lengths and
somewhat high geometric distortion across a range of focal lengths."

On the other hand as you pointed out you are getting the VR and longer
reach...

jue
sheepdog 2007 - 24 Oct 2007 14:34 GMT
>>> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm
>>> thinking of getting 1 soon
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>
> jue

Anyone trying to "do everything" with a single lens seems quite
satisfied with the 18-200. I've always agreed with the "no free lunch"
school; in fact it took a lot of convincing for me to move away from a
big collection of primes (with its corollary, mounting a different lens
every few frames).

I'm impressed with the zoom lenses that have come out in the last few
years. I love my three-zoom combo for D80's: 12-24, 24-85 and 70-300VR.
I just sold my 105 micro because I'm so satisfied with the pix I get at
90-120 mm with the VR tele--I got it as a refurb for under USD$500.

Another great (higher-quality) kit would be the 10.5, 17-35/2.8 and
80-200/2.8; perfect for someone planning to buy a full-frame in the
next couple of years, especially since you could fill in the gaps with
some classic manual primes for very little money.
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M-M - 24 Oct 2007 23:01 GMT
> I'm impressed with the zoom lenses that have come out in the last few
> years. I love my three-zoom combo for D80's: 12-24, 24-85 and 70-300VR.
> I just sold my 105 micro because I'm so satisfied with the pix I get at
> 90-120 mm with the VR tele--I got it as a refurb for under USD$500.

The 70-300VR is under USD$500 *new*!

I would like to add an 85mm 1.8 for $400 to my 18-135 and 70-300VR since
the only thing missing in the zoom lenses is a fast aperture.

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Jürgen Exner - 24 Oct 2007 23:12 GMT
> I would like to add an 85mm 1.8 for $400 to my 18-135 and 70-300VR
> since the only thing missing in the zoom lenses is a fast aperture.

I have the same set except I got the 50mm f1.8 instead. An very fast lens
and for only about 100$ you can't argue about the price :-)

jue
Frank Arthur - 24 Oct 2007 23:59 GMT
>> I would like to add an 85mm 1.8 for $400 to my 18-135 and 70-300VR
>> since the only thing missing in the zoom lenses is a fast aperture.
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>
> jue

My fast lens choice is the 35mm f2.0 AFD lens. Fast, good and the
closest focussing non-
micro lens Nikon has.
sheepdog 2007 - 24 Oct 2007 23:35 GMT
>> I'm impressed with the zoom lenses that have come out in the last few
>> years. I love my three-zoom combo for D80's: 12-24, 24-85 and 70-300VR.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I would like to add an 85mm 1.8 for $400 to my 18-135 and 70-300VR
> since the only thing missing in the zoom lenses is a fast aperture.

THank you for catching that. The lens *was* new, now that I think about
it. My camera body was a refurb.
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Ray Paseur - 25 Oct 2007 01:42 GMT
<snip> Would the 18 - 200mm </snip>

The longer reach is great for sports.  Image Stabilisation (or VR or
whatever the current terminology) is an absolute godsend.  It does not
replace a fast lens (the subject still moves) but it does wonders for
camera shake.  The 18-200 is a heavy thing, but the VR feature is very
helpful.  In bright sunlight you can make photos from the window of a
moving car.  In almost any light you can skip the tripod.  Its value
increases with the lens length.  I would not buy another normal/long lens
without this feature.  It's much less money than a good tripod/head and it
comes at lighter weight, in case you like being out backpacking.
steve - 24 Oct 2007 14:30 GMT
> Guys & Gals
>
> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm thinking of
> getting 1 soon
>
> regards

I am really happy with it and hopefully won't buy anything more for 4 or
more years, except maybe some  extra lens.
Frank Arthur - 24 Oct 2007 18:19 GMT
I have a D80 and a number of Nikon Lenses. Among them are 18-70,
24-120VR, 70-300VR,
105f2.8Macro & 80-400VR.

Except for Bird pictures I almost always use the 24-120mm VR lens and
have been getting
consistantly really good images. If I had to choose one lens it would
be the 24-120mmVR.

> Guys & Gals
>
> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm
> thinking of getting 1 soon
>
> regards
gpaleo - 24 Oct 2007 18:47 GMT
> I have a D80 and a number of Nikon Lenses. Among them are 18-70, 24-120VR,
> 70-300VR,
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> consistantly really good images. If I had to choose one lens it would be
> the 24-120mmVR.

Same here. The 24-120VR rarely leaves the camera, and that so to mount the
70-300VR for the reach.
If only, if ONLY, they were f4 lenses instead of f5.6
Jurgen Exner - 24 Oct 2007 19:45 GMT
> If only, if ONLY, they were f4 lenses instead of f5.6

Amen to that!!!
I would love so much to get my hands on a f2.8 tele or tele-zoom, but they
are just way out of my leage.

jue
acl - 26 Oct 2007 01:26 GMT
> > If only, if ONLY, they were f4 lenses instead of f5.6
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> jue

Well, how about the sigma 50-150 f/2.8 or the tokina 50-135mm f/2.8?
They're not cheap, but not that expensive either...
Jürgen Exner - 26 Oct 2007 03:25 GMT
>> I would love so much to get my hands on a f2.8 tele or tele-zoom,
>> but they are just way out of my leage.
>
> Well, how about the sigma 50-150 f/2.8 or the tokina 50-135mm f/2.8?
> They're not cheap, but not that expensive either...

I was more dreaming of a Nikkor 400mm f/2.8 ....

jue
Ray Paseur - 25 Oct 2007 01:45 GMT
<snip> almost always use the 24-120mm VR lens </snip>

This is a sharper lens than the 18-200, and an excellent "always on"
choice.  The 24-120 + the 70-200 + a teleconverter makes a great scenic,
portrait, sports system.  For birds, a little longer might be better.
Yvon Travailler - 25 Oct 2007 23:51 GMT
> Guys & Gals
>
> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm thinking of
> getting 1 soon
>
> regards

tried one for a few days, the viewfinder is really great. I personnaly would
trade the 18-135 for the older Nikkor 17-70 or a the Sigma 17-70.
Neil Harrington - 26 Oct 2007 01:42 GMT
> Guys & Gals
>
> To all who have a Nikon D80 with 18-135 what do you think i'm thinking of
> getting 1 soon

I bought my D80 with the 18-135 kit lens and I love it. I have a gaggle of
other Nikon lenses too,  but the 18-135 is the one that's on the camera
almost all the time.

However, when I go on vacation this winter I'll be bringing the 18-200 VR on
the D80. That and the little 10.5 fisheye and I'll be all set.

Neil
 
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