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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2007iPod and RAW files
My daughter just got a new 30Gb video iPod and in the store, I tried to copy pictures from my Canon Drebel XTi, worked like a charm even if it was slow. I bought Apple's iPod camera connector (the same they used in the store). Now before I open the box for the camera connector, so I can return it unopenend, I have a question: Can RAW files be transfered to an iPod? I doubt they could be displayed, but if the RAW files can be transfered, I could use the iPod for storage when away on trips. TIA Jean > Can RAW files be transfered to an iPod? I doubt they could be displayed, but > if the RAW files can be transfered, I could use the iPod for storage when > away on trips. ----- RAW files are like any other files as far as storage is concerned * Mac Guy is quoted & my replies are inline below : >> Can RAW files be transfered to an iPod? I doubt they could be displayed, but >> if the RAW files can be transfered, I could use the iPod for storage when [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > RAW files are like any other files as far as storage is concerned So can they or can't they be transferred?  SignatureTroy Piggins Canon EOS 30D + 70-200 f2.8L IS | 24-70 f2.8L | 10-22 f3.5-4.5 | 100 f2.8 Macro > * Mac Guy is quoted & my replies are inline below : > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So can they or can't they be transferred? raw will transfer fine, but won't display. it is just slow and the continuous hard drive access can run down the ipod battery fairly quickly. if you have an ipod already, the camera connector is a cheap way to go for small amounts of images, but the ipod really isn't designed for offloading pictures. My experience with the Ipod connector is disappointing. It tends to fail during downloading raw images from a dSLR and is very slow. Transfer rates are far slower than if you tried to transfer files off a flash memory card into the ipod using a computer intermediary. The ipod camera connector also is very iffy even with P&S cameras it is supposed to work with. Hence I would not recommend anyone purchase it although some people report it to be usable. The ipood is really just a hard drive with a dedicated OS. It is too bad Apple will not change the OS to allow the ipod to be used effectively for data transfer without an intervening computer. Presumably Apple marketers believe doing so would harm the image of the ipod as a passive multimedia device. > My experience with the Ipod connector is disappointing. > It tends to fail during downloading raw images from a dSLR and is very slow. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > believe doing so would harm the image of the ipod as a passive multimedia > device. Thanks for the advice, I will try it and see how usable it is before taking it on a trip. I think I have enough CF cards for a 2 week trip to Peru with 2 cameras (one 30D and one Drebel XTi, 2 8Gb, one 4Gb and 2 1Gb cards). I don't plan on erasing any of the cards, just make copies when they are full just in case something happens, I may buy an additional 8Gb card since they are getting cheaper all the time. Jean > Thanks for the advice, I will try it and see how usable it is before taking > it on a trip. I think I have enough CF cards for a 2 week trip to Peru with > 2 cameras (one 30D and one Drebel XTi, 2 8Gb, one 4Gb and 2 1Gb cards). I > don't plan on erasing any of the cards, just make copies when they are full > just in case something happens, I may buy an additional 8Gb card since they > are getting cheaper all the time. the ipod battery will not last long enough to copy the 8 and 4gb cards, and it might manage the 1gb. > > Thanks for the advice, I will try it and see how usable it is before taking > > it on a trip. I think I have enough CF cards for a 2 week trip to Peru with [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the ipod battery will not last long enough to copy the 8 and 4gb cards, > and it might manage the 1gb. I will sure try it before taking it with me, I want to avoid lugging a laptop if it's possible, not to mention my laptop's drive doesn't have that much free space, so I may have to take an external USB drive to back up my cards. Jean > I will sure try it before taking it with me, I want to avoid lugging a > laptop if it's possible, not to mention my laptop's drive doesn't have that > much free space, so I may have to take an external USB drive to back up my > cards. definitely try it and see how well it works for you. also, if you do use a laptop, you can put the ipod into disk mode and then copy the images from the laptop to the ipod instead of a separate external drive. > > I will sure try it before taking it with me, I want to avoid lugging a > > laptop if it's possible, not to mention my laptop's drive doesn't have that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > then copy the images from the laptop to the ipod instead of a separate > external drive. Yes, I know I could do that, but an external drive is much less desireable to a theif than a brand new iPod. Jean >> Thanks for the advice, I will try it and see how usable it is before taking >> it on a trip. I think I have enough CF cards for a 2 week trip to Peru with [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the ipod battery will not last long enough to copy the 8 and 4gb cards, > and it might manage the 1gb. The transfer is slow, but I have been able to transfer a nearly full 8GB card and and 3/4 full 4 GB card with no problems and no recharging. This was a Nikon D200 and a 60GB iPod with Video. The camera battery ran down more than that of my iPod. That said, the iPod and camera connector is not a very satisfactory solution. I like to be able to see the images and the syncing to my Mac back home is quick and easy, but it would be much better with a fast card reader that doesn't require connecting through a camera. > >> Thanks for the advice, I will try it and see how usable it is before taking > >> it on a trip. I think I have enough CF cards for a 2 week trip to Peru with [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > home is quick and easy, but it would be much better with a fast card reader > that doesn't require connecting through a camera. Good to hear it can copy an 8Gb card. I just want to use it for backup in case something happens... while copying pictures to CDs was something to consider with 512Mb cards, it is not with bigger cards, I would rather keep the pictures on the card and copy them when they get full and store the card and the iPod in different loactions. Jean >>>> Thanks for the advice, I will try it and see how usable it is before > taking [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > the pictures on the card and copy them when they get full and store the card > and the iPod in different loactions. YMMV - Other people with different camera or iPod models have had different experiences. Best to try it before you leave home. Nothing like forcing a device to do something it wasn't designed to do with a product that has a sh.t load of reports of being crappy at best and then to top it all of do all of this with your photos that you may not be able to replace easily. Are any of your part of the Bush family. With smarts like this you have to be related it some fashion. Somebody! "somebody" should learn to read, I wanted the iPod for a COPY of my cards, not as the ONLY storage. > Nothing like forcing a device to do something it wasn't designed to do with > a product that has a sh.t load of reports of being crappy at best and then [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Somebody! > "somebody" should learn to read, I wanted the iPod for a COPY of my cards, > not as the ONLY storage. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Somebody! Doesn't matter, loose a card and have the iPod take crap because you forced it to do something it wasn't designed for using an add on that isn't reliable and you are f.cked. Only an idiot would do that. Memory cards aren't indestructible, they do fail and they get lost. If you really need portable storage then invest in a regular photo backup device. Something designed from the ground up to do what you want. Otherwise why bother. Somebody! And planes do crash, maybe I should just stay home like somebody and then I wouldn't have to worry about having a bad CF card or having my iPod take a sh.t. Chicken little may indeed be right... > > "somebody" should learn to read, I wanted the iPod for a COPY of my cards, > > not as the ONLY storage. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Somebody! > > "somebody" should learn to read, I wanted the iPod for a COPY of my cards, > > not as the ONLY storage. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I saw a really sweet device just for this purpose the other day. Little battery powered 200gb external hard drive with memory card slots, USB port and a small lcd viewer screen. No idea how long the batteries go - but it is definately on my list of things to waste my money on. > > "somebody" should learn to read, I wanted the iPod for a COPY of my cards, > > not as the ONLY storage. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Somebody!- Because the OP has an iPod already. or didn't you get that bit? What crawled up your arse and died? Doc > > Good to hear it can copy an 8Gb card. I just want to use it for backup in > > case something happens... while copying pictures to CDs was something to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > YMMV - Other people with different camera or iPod models have had different > experiences. Best to try it before you leave home. Tried copying 15 RAW files, 143Mb and it copied in 3'35" (215 seconds) so a projected time for an 8Gb card would be 3 hours 34 minutes. If th iPod's battery can hold up, that's OK with me. BTW, the iPod makes new "rolls" each time a new copy is done, so regular backups could be done and once finished, the old "roll" erased. Jean > My daughter just got a new 30Gb video iPod and in the store, I tried to copy > pictures from my Canon Drebel XTi, worked like a charm even if it was slow. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jean Just an aside, for those who might be wondering: the camera connector cannot be used with the iPhone; the only way to transfer files to an iPhone is to email them, or to synchronize it with iTunes. iTunes will transfer pictures to an iPhone, but it downsizes them first to iPhone format and converts them to JPG if they are not already. The iPhone is not an iPod. It can store and play music like an iPod, but the interface is completely different. So, if any of you are considering an iPhone for an application similar to a video iPod, you should be aware that there are considerable differences. SignatureWaddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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