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time to sell my Nikon 6006 and all the lenses.......
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louise - 16 Apr 2007 05:09 GMT I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus or even necessarily meter properly in my new D40X - from what I understand.
And yet.....to part with it is so sad.
Is ebay the best place to sell or is there a better source for good quality film camera and lenses in good shape?
TIA
Louise
DoN. Nichols - 16 Apr 2007 06:46 GMT According to louise <louise@invalid.invalid>:
> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's > lenses (I have about 3). The lenses are so old that they > are AF and will not autofocus ??? "AF and will not autofocus?" This sounds contradictory somehow. You mean that they have the "screwdriver" connector so there must be a motor in the camera body to drive the autofocus mechanism, instead of a motor in the lens to autofocus on electrical command from the body?
> or even necessarily meter > properly in my new D40X - from what I understand. Do you already have the D40X If not, and if you have three *good* lenses, that might make it worth while going for something like the D200 which will meter with them. Or even the D70 or D80 probably. If they *are* AF lenses, then they should meter with the D70 for sure, and almost certainly with the D80 as well. If they are AI only, then you would need to step up to the D200 to get metering, but I don't know of any AI only lenses which are AF as well.
> And yet.....to part with it is so sad. > > Is ebay the best place to sell or is there a better source > for good quality film camera and lenses in good shape? Personally -- I would consider getting a camera body to continue to use the lenses instead of abandoning the lenses with the film body. (I'm presuming that they are genuine Nikon lenses, not low-budget third-party lenses.)
One of the reasons for buying Nikon when you already have Nikon is to continue to use the "glass". And that would appear to also be a reason to *not* buy the D40 or D40x. That route only makes sense if you are going to need to buy all new lenses -- and don't plan to take advantage of good used lenses which are on the used market.
Good Luck, DoN.
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Adrian Boliston - 16 Apr 2007 12:05 GMT > One of the reasons for buying Nikon when you already have Nikon > is to continue to use the "glass". And that would appear to also be a > reason to *not* buy the D40 or D40x. That route only makes sense if you > are going to need to buy all new lenses -- and don't plan to take > advantage of good used lenses which are on the used market. I sometimes wonder if too much fuss is made about this d40 AF "issue". When I first got my D70s I always let it take care of all focussing, but after a while I got a bit fed up with the way it takes away some control and I now tend to leave the focus switch on "manual" and use the focus ring instead. I know some people say it's not easy to focus without the split prism screens that their film cameras used to have, but I does not seem that difficult to me. Most of my shooting is static subjects, but I guess if someone were into fast action shooting then the AF could be more of an issue.
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DoN. Nichols - 16 Apr 2007 22:54 GMT According to Adrian Boliston <adrian@boliston.co.uk>:
> > One of the reasons for buying Nikon when you already have Nikon > > is to continue to use the "glass". And that would appear to also be a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > someone were into fast action shooting then the AF could be more of an > issue. For most shots with my D70 I let the AF do its thing -- but I have the focus zone locked on the central zone, instead of letting the camera pick its own choice (e.g. whatever happens to be closest). Occasionally I will personally move the autofocus zone, but usually I will point the camera to center what I want to focus on, then lock the focus in with a half-pressed shutter release.
There are times when manual focus is preferred -- the macro mode of the 35-135mm f3.5-4.5 for example where the autofocus does not work, and certainly with the lenses which don't *have* AF, or something on a bellows or extension tubes for macro work.
If I *do* have an AF capability in the lens, I want to have it work -- even if I choose not to use it from time to time.
Most of my shots are a case of spotting an image, whipping up the camera and capturing it. For these, AF is a bonus. However, in the few carefully set up shots, yes, manual focus is sometimes preferred.
Enjoy, DoN.
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louise - 17 Apr 2007 05:30 GMT > According to louise <louise@invalid.invalid>: >> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Good Luck, > DoN. I did already purchase the D40x and for a very specific reason: I have tiny hands and after trying some of the other Nikon DSLRs, as well as the Canon, I chose the D40X body on it's own merit. I also have a long and loving history with Nikon and really felt more comfortable staying with their products, but the main issue was how the camera felt in my hands.
Yes, I do mean that my lenses have the "screwdriver" connection and therefore, as I understand it, require the AF motor to be in the camera body.
So, given that I've got the D40X and got it because I wanted it, it seems "logical" to me that I should sell my 6006 and the accompany lenses. Yes, they are Nikon lenses: Nikon AF Nikkor 35 - 70, Nikon AF Nikkor 70 - 210 and an AF Nikkor 50mm 1.4.
They will manually focus, but my vision isn't everything I'd like it to be and my work really does benefit from AF.
So, with this further description, what do you think I should do?
Thanks again.
Louise
DoN. Nichols - 18 Apr 2007 01:41 GMT According to louise <louise@invalid.invalid>:
> > According to louise <louise@invalid.invalid>: > >> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > must be a motor in the camera body to drive the autofocus mechanism, > > instead of a motor in the lens to autofocus on electrical command from [ ... ]
> I did already purchase the D40x and for a very specific > reason: I have tiny hands and after trying some of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with their products, but the main issue was how the camera > felt in my hands. O.K. That is a valid reason for selecting the D40x.
> Yes, I do mean that my lenses have the "screwdriver" > connection and therefore, as I understand it, require the AF > motor to be in the camera body. At least for autofocus to function, yes. Without it you do still have manual focus.
> So, given that I've got the D40X and got it because I wanted > it, it seems "logical" to me that I should sell my 6006 and > the accompany lenses. Yes, they are Nikon lenses: Nikon AF > Nikkor 35 - 70, Nikon AF Nikkor 70 - 210 and an AF Nikkor > 50mm 1.4. Hmm ... that 50mm f1.4 would be particularly useful taking photos in low light. Which lens (or lenses) do you have with your D40x? If you have the 18-70mm which was the kit lens for the D70, and I believe also with the D200 -- I don't see much point to holding onto the 35-70 -- unless it is a faster lens. The 70-210 might well be worth holding onto, as the price of the 70-200 mm f2.8 with VR is probably twice what you paid for the camera body alone. (If you choose not to keep it, *I* might be interested in acquiring it for my D70. :-)
> They will manually focus, but my vision isn't everything I'd > like it to be and my work really does benefit from AF. A few tricks to help with manual focus:
1) Turn on the grid in the viewfinder. Once it is on, aim the camera at a flat image (a wall with no details, the sky without clouds, or something similar) and adjust the eyepiece correction to get the sharpest image you can of the grid -- and the autofocus zone identifier. Once you are trying to focus on something else, make sure that it is sharp at the same time as the grid or AF zone identifier, to assure that your eye's focus has not been pulled by the out-of-focus image of the subject in the viewfinder.
2) Use the AF zone and the little green light in the lower left corner of the viewfinder to get reasonable focus.
3) The only one which will cost you money -- get a Katzeye replacement focusing screen, which has the kind of visual focusing aids which SLRs used to have by default for manual focusing.
> So, with this further description, what do you think I > should do? At least try to use the above tricks and see how good a job you can do focusing that way. Only after that fails (if it does)would I bother trying to sell the lenses.
As others have already suggested, the old camera body is unlikely to bring in much. A 6006 wasn't it?
The first one I found in eBay has a buy-it-now price of $49.00 and no bids.
The second has a price of $17.48 after five bids with two days left to go.
There is one at about $99.00 which is being ignored.
And another which is at $1.30 with two bids and 3 days 1 hour to go.
You might track these and see if any one of them actually closes at a price which you would be willing to accept. The two cheapest ones seem to be offered by a used dealer, which will probably make them a more reasonable estimate of value than the ones offered by owners with fond wishes.
The prices on the 70-210mm f4-4.5 seem to be a lot higher -- *without* the camera body.
So -- check out what eBay users are selling these for and decide whether you *really* want to sell the body for that little.
Good Luck, DoN.
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Dave - 16 Apr 2007 12:39 GMT > I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have > about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Louise Hi Louise,
I did a little research and it appears that the only Nikon model that won't work with full functions is the D40(x). You should be able to use your lenses with all the other models (even a used D100).
If it were me and I already had the D40(x), I'd check with where I bought it and see if I could return it for one of the other models.
Hope this helps, Dave
louise - 17 Apr 2007 05:34 GMT >> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I >> have about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Hope this helps, > Dave Hi,
Thanks for doing the research. As noted in my earlier post, I bought the D40X after holding several other Nikon DSLRs and one or two Canons. I have very small hands and the D40x was really comfortable to hold - frankly, much more comfortable than my 6006 ever was :-)
So, I am reluctant to give that up.
Louise
Say Cheese - 16 Apr 2007 15:24 GMT >I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have >about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus or [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Louise Film is truly dead. I miss it and still play with it just out of nostalgia.
You will get so little for the lot that trouble is probably not worth the money.
I got an 8008, nikon flash and two AF lenses off ebay a few months ago for under $100, shipping did push it above that a bit
Neil Harrington - 16 Apr 2007 21:00 GMT >I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have >about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus or >even necessarily meter properly in my new D40X - from what I understand. Try 'em and see. If the lenses don't have the autofocus motor built in they won't autofocus on your D40x, but you can still focus manually using the focus indicator in the lower left of your viewfinder. That is less convenient but it does work well. I don't think there'd be a problem with metering, if they're Nikon AF lenses.
> And yet.....to part with it is so sad. > > Is ebay the best place to sell or is there a better source for good > quality film camera and lenses in good shape? eBay is probably the best place to sell that stuff, but if you don't already have some feedback there you may find buyers a bit cautious. The alternative would be one of the places that buys used camera equipment for resale, like KEH or Cameta. If your lenses include one or two well-liked items that aren't duplicated by the lens you got with the D40x, you might prefer to keep them for manual use rather than sell them for a pittance.
You can always check eBay for prices on the same or similar lenses to get an idea of what they're going for.
Neil
louise - 17 Apr 2007 05:36 GMT >> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have >> about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus or [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Neil I do have good feedback on ebay and that probably wouldn't be an issue.
My lenses are: Nikon lenses: Nikon AF Nikkor 35 - 70, Nikon AF Nikkor 70 - 210 and an AF Nikkor 50mm 1.4.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Louise
frederick - 17 Apr 2007 06:24 GMT >>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I >>> have about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Louise Be aware that if the 70-210 is an f4-5.6 AF D, it could sell for close to US$500 if it's in pristine condition. (the "D" version is not very common - and sought after by some as it is the only compact screw-driven zoom of this focal length range that focuses fast) If it's not a "D" (a plain f4-5.6) then it's still a good lens optically, but worth a lot less. The 50mm f1.4 AF should also be worth good money used. The 35-70 is probably reasonably valueless.
louise - 17 Apr 2007 06:46 GMT >>>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I >>>> have about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > less. The 50mm f1.4 AF should also be worth good money used. The 35-70 > is probably reasonably valueless. Thanks - I fear it isn't the D - but I thought the 50mm 1.4 might be worth something. Is there a good way to find out what they are worth before I put them on ebay without a reserve because I don't know what reserve to use. Or would I would I be better off taking a trip to B & H and just handing over the lot and taking what they offer?
Louise
Neil Harrington - 17 Apr 2007 08:37 GMT >>>>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I >>>>> have about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > put them on ebay without a reserve because I don't know what reserve to > use. I would think twice about using a reserve anyway. Personally I find any auction with a reserve very off-putting, and never bid on them. Obviously some people do bid on them, but of the few I've been interested in enough to watch to completion, many if not most ended with the reserve unmet. I suspect that many would-be buyers are turned off by reserve auctions as I am. It's annoying to keep bidding on something with no idea of how high the reserve is.
I think you'd be much better off with no reserve, either starting extremely low (which tends to bring in lots more bidders) or starting at whatever you feel is a reasonable minimum price -- which is what you'd be setting the reserve at anyway if you used a reserve, so you wouldn't be losing anything.
To see what a reasonable minimum price would be, follow a few eBay auctions for the same or very similar items and see where they end up. Or perhaps check KEH's or Cameta's prices for similar used items.
> Or would I would I be better off taking a trip to B & H and just handing > over the lot and taking what they offer? You could query them first, or KEH or Cameta. They might or might not be willing to give you an estimate. (Understandably, they don't want to waste their time figuring estimates for someone who may just be shopping several resellers for the best offer.) Selling to a big reseller would obviously be a lot less trouble, but you can expect to get a lot less for the stuff too. It comes down to how much bother you're willing to go to.
Neil
louise - 17 Apr 2007 15:41 GMT >>>>>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I >>>>>> have about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > Neil thanks - you're right about the reserve and I often feel that way as well. I guess I'll look at KEH and Cameta and then just start with a low bid that I would find tolerable.
Louise
frederick - 17 Apr 2007 08:54 GMT >>>>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I >>>>> have about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Louise I'm pretty mean when it comes to that kind of thing. For starters, the 70-210 D and non-D versions look the same except that under the 70-210mm label on the zoom ring is marked 1:4-5.6 D - the non D (unsurprisingly) doesn't have "D" marked on it. (there are other minor differences such as the aperture ring lock button, but otherwise they look the same) At a guess, a 70-210 (non-d) f4-5.6 or fixed f4 should fetch over US$100 (vs about 4 times as much for the D), a good 50mm f1.4 over US$150, and perhaps you'll get a few dollars for the 35-70. If you are near a second hand camera store, you could get them to look at the lenses and make an offer. At least they might be able to identify any faults. But then I'd still sell them on Ebay.
Neil Harrington - 17 Apr 2007 08:08 GMT >>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have >>> about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Any thoughts? Of those, the 35-70 probably wouldn't be of much use to you with the D40x, but the other two might be if you don't mind manual focusing. I have a couple of Nikkors with the mechanical AF coupling (50/1.8 and 10.5 fisheye) and I find manual focusing easy enough on the D40 with the focus indicator in the viewfinder, though of course it's slower than AF and not as convenient as having a split-image rangefinder in the viewfinder.
Admittedly I much prefer autofocus with those lenses, and so I mostly use them on my D70s where they do autofocus.
In your place I guess I'd sell them all on eBay, they should be easy to sell as long as you have good feedback, and for about $170 I'd buy the Nikon DX 55-200 which is the perfect mate for the 18-55 you've already got. (I *did* buy the 55-200 for just that reason, for my D40. It's a delightfully compact and lightweight lens, hardly any bigger than the 18-55 in fact.) Or if not the current 55-200, I'd wait for the new VR 55-200 which is supposed to sell for about $250 when it does appear, and sounds like a great bargain at that price.
That still leaves you without a fast fixed focal length normal of course, but there isn't much out there for the DX format anyway except the Sigma 30/1.4 which is quite pricey and of course not a Nikkor. I'm hoping that Nikon brings out a similar fast normal, and my guess is that sooner or later they will.
Neil
louise - 17 Apr 2007 06:14 GMT >> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have >> about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus or [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Neil Well I just tried all three lenses - not only do they not autofocus, they don't even focus with the little green dot on the bottom of the viewfinder. Manual focus, of course, works ok, but most of my shots are candid, spur of the moment, etc.
I also suspect they don't meter properly because my 50 mm f 1.4 (all the way open), kept over exposing to an extreme degree. I vaguely remember reading they don't meter until something like f 2.6 ot 3.
Anyone who might be interested in any of these lenses, or the body, or both, please email me at louise250 at nyc dot rr dot com.
After this venture, I'm ready to let them all go.....
Louise
Neil Harrington - 17 Apr 2007 08:46 GMT >>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have >>> about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > viewfinder. Manual focus, of course, works ok, but most of my shots are > candid, spur of the moment, etc. You're saying that the little green dot never comes on to indicate correct focus? That really amazes me. My 50/1.8 and 10.5/2.8 fisheye, focusing manually, both activate that focus indicator just fine in my D40.
> I also suspect they don't meter properly because my 50 mm f 1.4 (all the > way open), kept over exposing to an extreme degree. I vaguely remember [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > After this venture, I'm ready to let them all go..... Well, good luck whatever you decide to do. In your place I'd sell 'em all on eBay, but you may not be willing to get into that if you haven't done any selling on eBay before.
Neil
louise - 17 Apr 2007 21:24 GMT >>>> I haven't used my 6006 in about 5 years, nor any of it's lenses (I have >>>> about 3). The lenses are so old that they are AF and will not autofocus [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Neil Thanks to all for your valuable information and suggestions. I have put the camera body and all the lenses up for sale on ebay - ebay name is lou250.
Louise
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