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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / May 2007How the Brooklyn scumbags make money
Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the page. http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=sndslra100&discontinued=1&itemname=Cyber shot%20DSC-R1,%2010.3%20Megapixel,%205x%20Optical/2x%20Digital%20Zoom,%20Digital %20Camera%20(DSCR1) > Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the > page. > > http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=sndslra100&discontinued=1&itemname=Cyber shot%20DSC-R1,%2010.3%20Megapixel,%205x%20Optical/2x%20Digital%20Zoom,%20Digital %20Camera%20(DSCR1) Ya, and just for kicks, I put one of their $949 2GB CF cards in a shopping cart...and had them "estimate shipping costs." UPS Ground came to $49...for a 1 ounce item. :) :) :) :) :) :) So...that's $1000.00 for a $29 card. :) Is anyone this stupid? The sad answer is... Apparently so.  SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson Oh c'mon. They're "ultra high speed" AND "error free" AND they're clearly designated for the "PRO." What do you want them to do, give this stuff away?! If you're cheap you can save your self some money and pick up the slow, error-prone 2GB card for Only $749. Geesh, pay attention guys. 8-O >> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >> page. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The sad answer is... Apparently so. > Oh c'mon. They're "ultra high speed" AND "error free" AND they're clearly > designated for the "PRO." What do you want them to do, give this stuff [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Geesh, pay attention guys. And the card reader is only $ 99.00. >> Oh c'mon. They're "ultra high speed" AND "error free" AND they're clearly >> designated for the "PRO." What do you want them to do, give this stuff [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >And the card reader is only $ 99.00. I think Broadway Photo is in a price war with Preferred Photo. www.preferredphoto.com/results.asp?sid=38&sort=3&page=15 According to the Contact info on their websites, these two are next-door neighbors on E 89th Street in Brooklyn. I don't know if Don Wiss is lurking, but he has posted pictures of camera dealers in Brooklyn. He oughta get a medal or something for it, too. http://donwiss.com/pictures/brooklynstores/ See #49 and #187 TR >I don't know if Don Wiss is lurking, but he has posted pictures of >camera dealers in Brooklyn. He oughta get a medal or something for it, >too. > >http://donwiss.com/pictures/brooklynstores/ I'm around, but I was slow to find this thread. I have a watch filter on Brooklyn over in rec.photo.digital, but not this group. I'll add one... Thanks for the compliment. I have a bunch of new Manhattan pictures to put up. Maybe I should go do it now. In contrast to Brooklyn these are mostly highly reputable places. Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/> (e-mail link at page bottoms). >I think Broadway Photo is in a price war with Preferred Photo. > >www.preferredphoto.com/results.asp?sid=38&sort=3&page=15 > >According to the Contact info on their websites, these two are >next-door neighbors on E 89th Street in Brooklyn. Gee. If I planned ahead I could have combined these into one article. Anyway, there are two new members of the Broadway family. Added recently to Shedding Some Light's page are Camera Addict and Regal Camera. See: http://sheddingsomelight.com/buy-cameras/list/dealers-bwayfam.html Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom). >Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >page. > >http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=sndslra100&discontinued=1&itemname=Cyber shot%20DSC-R1,%2010.3%20Megapixel,%205x%20Optical/2x%20Digital%20Zoom,%20Digital %20Camera%20(DSCR1) What is there to say except "caveat emptor"? These guys can only make money from those dumb emough not to shop or check reviews (like resellerratings.com). Who would buy from someone with this rating, http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Broadway_Photo ? > http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Broadway_Photo "We detected and disabled 50+ fraudulent "Very Satisfied" reviews for this merchant. Due to the continuous submission of said reviews, we are no longer accepting new reviews for this store as of 1/19/2006." "Overall Customer Satisfaction Rating Six-Month Rating: N/A / 10 Six-Month Reviews: 0 Lifetime Reviews: 1120 Lifetime Rating: 0.80 / 10 All Stores Avg.: 7.18" SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard >>http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Broadway_Photo > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lifetime Reviews: 1120 > Lifetime Rating: 0.80 / 10 All Stores Avg.: 7.18" Just a thought unrelated to whateverthehellitisyou'rearguingabout. Rather than an "All stores average" it would be interesting to see a histogram of how many stores hit 0-1, 1-2, ... 9-10 in buyer ratings. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. On Apr 14, 12:37 pm, Oliver Costich <ocost...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote: > >Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the > >page. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > money from those dumb emough not to shop or check reviews (like > resellerratings.com). Who would buy from someone with this rating,http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Broadway_Photo? Which is why the scumbags set up their own fake ratings websites, see the left hand side of the page. > Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the > page. > > http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=sndslra100&discontinued=1&itemname=Cyber shot%20DSC-R1,%2010.3%20Megapixel,%205x%20Optical/2x%20Digital%20Zoom,%20Digital %20Camera%20(DSCR1) It staggers me that these stores are allowed to stay in business. >> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >> page. >> >> http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=sndslra100&discontinued=1&itemname=Cyber shot%20DSC-R1,%2010.3%20Megapixel,%205x%20Optical/2x%20Digital%20Zoom,%20Digital %20Camera%20(DSCR1) > > It staggers me that these stores are allowed to stay in business. They need to get about 10,000 e-mails a day saying they are a bunch of a.s holes. I bet they are a bunch of middlestern people. >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >holes. > I bet they are a bunch of middlestern people. If you classify Orthodox Jews as middlestern (sic), then yes, they are. But then why would origin/ethnicity make a difference except to a bigot. >>>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of >>>> the page. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > are. But then why would origin/ethnicity make a difference except to a > bigot. They can't be TOO orthodox at "Broadway Photo" (or whatever their latest concocted name is this week), or they'd be in constant violation of their beliefs for all of the lying, scamming and cheating. B&H is run/owned by orthodox Jews, and they actually practice what they believe. It shows in the honest, professional manner with which they run their store and on-line business. If only more stores operated in this manner... Oh well. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson On Apr 15, 4:43 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote: > B&H is run/owned by > orthodox Jews, and they actually practice what they believe. It shows in > the honest, professional manner with which they run their store and on-line > business. If only more stores operated in this manner... Oh well. Thanks for your kind words. For the record, while our owner, several managers and quite a few employees are orthodox and/or Hasidic Jews, we have all sorts of employees from many racial, ethnic & religious backgrounds, and even an agnostic or two. Henry Posner B&H Photo-Video, Inc. >On Apr 15, 4:43 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number >here)@cox..net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Henry Posner >B&H Photo-Video, Inc. And I don't believe that the fact that the ownership is orthodox Jews has anything to do with the integrity of B&H (which as high as it gets). Unethical behavior knows no religious or ethnic boundaries. >> On Apr 15, 4:43 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number >> here)@cox..net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > has anything to do with the integrity of B&H (which as high as it > gets). I do think it is related. Why? -Because it indicates a different set of priorities. -They show what their priorities are (and are not) every time they take extended business away from themselves by strictly observing extensive religious days (and we're not talking merely Christmas, Easter, or other one-day events...rather prolonged and numerous other days/periods/weeks). They voluntarily give up VERY significant business because of this. This...by itself...indicates that their priorities are ranked so that the almighty dollar does NOT rule them. If it did, they wouldn't give up a good percentage of business days. This should tell you something, and it is something positive. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>> On Apr 15, 4:43 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number >>> here)@cox..net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >percentage of business days. This should tell you something, and it is >something positive. That's the behavior of B&H, not of all the businesses run by orthodox Jews. Being orthodox Jews guarantees nothing about business practices. >>>> On Apr 15, 4:43 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number >>>> here)@cox..net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > That's the behavior of B&H, not of all the businesses run by orthodox > Jews. Being orthodox Jews guarantees nothing about business practices. I'm talking about B&H. No religion can be judged by the individual, and no individual's morals can be judged by the title of their religion. But there are those whose religion is a central part of their conduct. For those indiduals, and their businesses, I say good for them, and I like to send them my orders. There is a link between the truly observant person and good, honest business practices. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of >>>>> the page. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >the honest, professional manner with which they run their store and on-line >business. If only more stores operated in this manner... Oh well. Exactly my point. Honesty and dishonesty in business dealings isn't tied to any religious or ethnic group. But then why would origin/ethnicity make a difference except to a > bigot. If you are not a bigot, and have dealings with people from many different cultures, you learn that Western (British-US-most European) manners and business values are out on a limb in some respects. We don't think that we become more admirable businesspeople by tricking customers into overpaying or 'pulling a fast one' but in some cultures (not necessarily anything even vaguely connected with Brooklyn orthodox Jewish) outwitting the buyer is a point of personal pride. I've encountered this in Morocco and Turkey; I've had it explained to me by a Pakistani friend, and been warned against it by a Chinese-business contact. In such cultures, it is the buyer's task to prove cleverer than the seller. If you don't the seller will have less respect for you, and will feel no guilt for ripping you off, because you have deserved it by being less knowledgable and astute than they are. If you beat them down to the correct figure, you gain in status. I've seen tourists in India about to hand over the asking price for a souvenir and someone passing by in the street will stop the transaction, tell the seller what price is to be paid, and apologise to the tourists - then explain the system. It can work two ways - I had a Minolta branded camera bag in India, and a shopkeeper was so desperate for it he ended up giving me a large leather carpetbag in exchange. The next day he had the Minolta bag, stuffed full to make it a nice shape, permanently mounted on his shopfront not for sale but for advertising. I suspect none of this applies to the NY dealers and they are really just crooks, no cultural background of expecting the customer to get them down to 1/4 of the labelled price. My only experience of the Brooklyn thing was my wife calling me to say she had been offered a converter lens for $300 which was supposed to be ultra high quality with an infra-red coating, but said no because it looked like a $50 Raynox bit of rubbish in a different box. She was right of course. I guess they are doing it now with memory cards and 'digital filters'. David >>>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>>> page. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > are. But then why would origin/ethnicity make a difference except to a > bigot. They may be Jewish but I don't think they're orthodox. Non-practicing might be a more apt description. Not that this has anything to do with their dishonestly, that comes in all flavors. B&H is owned by orthodox Jews and they don't come any more honest than they do. >>>>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>>>> page. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >dishonestly, that comes in all flavors. B&H is owned by orthodox Jews and >they don't come any more honest than they do. I have no way to distinguish the religious prefernces of the operators of bwayphoto.com, but notice they close early on Fridays and are closed all day Saturday, which is usually a tip off. My point was that business ethics and religious/cultural affiliations are generally unrelated. > >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the > >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > are. But then why would origin/ethnicity make a difference except to a > bigot. If they are all Orthodox Jews, I'm wondering which part of their teachings allows them to behave in such a fashion? As far as I know, Christian, Jewish and Muslim all share a common orthodoxy that suggests not ripping people off for a living. It's like members of the Mafia, engaged in organized crime, all the while being "devout" Catholics. Obviously, something didn't "take." >> >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >> >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >the Mafia, engaged in organized crime, all the while being "devout" >Catholics. Obviously, something didn't "take." Y'know, when you aren't talking about cameras, you sound relatively rational. SignatureTHIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Don Imus met with the Rutgers women's basketball team Thursday and apologized to them for hours. It left a sour taste. Don Imus just got a telegram from the Stetson showroom in New York saying if he's going to grovel he will have to give back the hat. > >> >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the > >> >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Y'know, when you aren't talking about cameras, you sound relatively > rational. I'm SO glad you approve. Honest. >> >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >> >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >the Mafia, engaged in organized crime, all the while being "devout" >Catholics. Obviously, something didn't "take." Since when does the teachings of a religion govern the actual behavior of its members? >> On Apr 15, 3:33 pm, Oliver Costich <ocost...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Since when does the teachings of a religion govern the actual behavior > of its members? Members? No. True followers/believers? Yes. How will you know the difference? -Business practices, among other things. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>> On Apr 15, 3:33 pm, Oliver Costich <ocost...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >True followers/believers? Yes. >How will you know the difference? -Business practices, among other things. Business practices don't you anything except about their business practices. I guess before I do business with any of the other photo businesses run by orthodox Jews I should call and ask if they are true believers. Maybe I should just call any vendor I do business with and ask if they are true believers in a religion that discourages dishonesty. >>> On Apr 15, 3:33 pm, Oliver Costich <ocost...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >True followers/believers? Yes. >How will you know the difference? -Business practices, among other things. As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." True believers do may things that are just wrong. SignatureTHIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Hillary Clinton told New Hampshire voters Sunday that President Bush's refusal to change course in Iraq is a tragedy of historic proportion. That's fine with her. The more unforgivable the president, the more Hillary Clinton seems to get out of it. >>>> On Apr 15, 3:33 pm, Oliver Costich <ocost...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> >>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." > True believers do may things that are just wrong. What I'm saying is very simple. Judge the person's business morality and the keeping of their beliefs as it relates to honesty by what they do and do not do when dealing with customers. By this, you can quickly weed out those whose claimed beliefs are a sham. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>>> On Apr 15, 3:33 pm, Oliver Costich <ocost...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> >>>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >customers. By this, you can quickly weed out those whose claimed beliefs >are a sham. Simple, yes. Relevant to whether a persons religion and business ethics are correlated, no. >> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >customers. By this, you can quickly weed out those whose claimed beliefs >are a sham. And what I'm saying is that religious beliefs are not an indicator of anything, including business practices. SignatureTHIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Hillary Clinton postponed her meeting with the Rutgers women's basketball team Monday due to weather. The team forgave a middle-aged white guy for humiliating them in front of the entire world. Hillary wanted to go there to collect her royalty check. >>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And what I'm saying is that religious beliefs are not an indicator of > anything, including business practices. By themselves, simply stated as beliefs...no, and I agree with you. One doesn't necessarily equal the other. But for some, their religious beliefs really do positively shape their business practices. Determining which execs actually are able to command their companies effectively because of it is another matter. But these companies do exist. Here's one example that is absolutely true to the company president's religious beliefs, as an example: http://dtwc.com Specifically, the right-most column, "Core Values" are absolutely adhered to: http://dtwc.com/content/aboutus.htm SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >But for some, their religious beliefs really do positively shape their >business practices. So what? How do you tell who they are before you deal with them? Show me any data correlating religious belief and business ethics. >Determining which execs actually are able to command their companies >effectively because of it is another matter. But these companies do exist. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >to: >http://dtwc.com/content/aboutus.htm How do you know that they actually practice what they preach? Even if they do, what does it prove? That at least one company has integrity? >>>>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>>>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > How do you know that they actually practice what they preach? Even if > they do, what does it prove? That at least one company has integrity? It proves you will argue anything. Over and out. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>>>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>>>>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >It proves you will argue anything. >Over and out. Don't give up just because your argument is devoid of any logic or consistency. >>>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >to: >http://dtwc.com/content/aboutus.htm I'm not arguing with the fact that there are businesses that are run according to the core beliefs of the religion that the owners profess to belong to at all. I'm saying that this can not be construed to mean that because business A is run by adherents of religion H, then business B, also run by adherents of religion H, will be run the same way. IOW, the beliefs of the owners is not a reliable deterninant of how a business is run. That B&H is a very good company, and is run by observant Orthodox Jews, does not mean any other company run by observant Orthodox jews will be as good. Its seems obvious that a well-run company is run by people with good values, but even that isn't always true. A well-run company, that deals honestly with its customers, is more likely to fourish for a long time than one run otherwise, and is thus likely to make more money for the owners. A morally bankrupt person could see this, and run a company well even though his purpose is to make more money instead of giving people good value for their money. Cinversely, a person with excellent morals could run a company so badly that customers stay away in droves. My point is that the moral fiber of business owners can not be relied upon to determine how well a company does business. This means you can't look at a business and tell the moral fiber of the owners based on how the company does business. Even photography-related companies. :-) SignatureTHIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Rudy Giuliani will address students at Pat Robertson's university next week. He is for gay rights, abortion, gun control and divorce. Pat Robertson plans to hand out sticks and marshmallows to the students to take advantage of the fire surrounding the podium. >>>>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>>>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >Even photography-related companies. > :-) A smart business will be good to its customers because that's where the money comes from, not because they are moral. >>>>>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>>>>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >A smart business will be good to its customers because that's where >the money comes from, not because they are moral. I just said that. SignatureTHIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Rudy Giuliani will address students at Pat Robertson's university next week. He is for gay rights, abortion, gun control and divorce. Pat Robertson plans to hand out sticks and marshmallows to the students to take advantage of the fire surrounding the podium. >>>>> As many atheists have told me, "We don't kill people, either." >>>>> True believers do may things that are just wrong. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > IOW, the beliefs of the owners is not a reliable deterninant of how a > business is run. We are in complete agreement on that, Bill. I merely pointed out that neither should one dismiss one's beliefs, since there are clearly individuals and companies which hold true. Religion is subject to the same human frailty that all other human-involved activities/beliefs are. People are inherently selfish, and religion (with a few notable exceptions) usually asks the individual to set selfishness aside, or place it much lower on the totem pole. As long as there are humans involved in religious (always), there will be wide-scale usurping of its principles. That's just a given. I think the biggest problem is that it's too easy to claim beliefs, when they may hold nearly zero sway over a particular individual's life choices. Many people hate religion...but not really for the beliefs, rather people's twisted versions of them, and selfishness despite them. > That B&H is a very good company, and is run by observant Orthodox > Jews, does not mean any other company run by observant Orthodox jews > will be as good. As I've tried to state many times... I completely agree with that statement. > Its seems obvious that a well-run company is run by people with good > values, but even that isn't always true. A well-run company, that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > run a company well even though his purpose is to make more money > instead of giving people good value for their money. Yes they could. But their intentions would still be selfish at the core, and so would (I tend to believe) more likely leave them open to cutting corners, so long as it didn't hurt their bottom line. >Cinversely, a > person with excellent morals could run a company so badly that > customers stay away in droves. Of course. > Yes they could > My point is that the moral fiber of business owners can not be relied > upon to determine how well a company does business. Of course. Many "good-hearted" businesses go belly up. -Mine likely would, were I to start one, because I hate charging people for stuff. :) To me, it's way more satisfying to give things away. That's why I might not make the best businessman... > This means you > can't look at a business and tell the moral fiber of the owners based > on how the company does business. > Even photography-related companies. > :-) Again... I don't disagree with your version of that logical progression. My statement, again, was meant to be fairly simple. I think a lot of what I'm trying to convey is that there really are people whose legitimate and sincere adherance to their religious beliefs can become a critical factor in why you can trust them. For every one sincere preacher, there are several idiots like you see on TV. If I had the power, I'd deport nearly every one of them to their own little country of one...themselves. :) You, Bill, are worth engaging because you're clearly listening, and you're offering your thoughts with good intentions and effort to have a conversation. This make you a far more "trustworthy guy," in a very similar sense to why I trust particular companies. You are operating on a different set of "personal rules" and it makes the exchange OK. For every one of you (like preachers and businesses) there are far too many "others." -M² SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>>> On Apr 15, 3:33 pm, Oliver Costich <ocost...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> >>>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > customers. By this, you can quickly weed out those whose claimed beliefs > are a sham. That does not follow. All nationally advertised photo dealers in NYC are closed before sundown Friday and all day Saturday. It is reasonable to assume then that they are all Jewish, and not just Jewish but strictly observant Jews -- the honest ones and the crooks alike. I don't think you can say their "claimed beliefs are a sham" when they dutifully follow their religious law, and I don't think you can tell the good ones from the bad ones by their store hours. Neil > All nationally advertised photo dealers in NYC are closed before sundown > Friday and all day Saturday. It is reasonable to assume then that they are > all Jewish, and not just Jewish but strictly observant Jews *All* the major photo equipment dealers in New York City are Jewish?! Really? Daniele >> All nationally advertised photo dealers in NYC are closed before sundown >> Friday and all day Saturday. It is reasonable to assume then that they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > *All* the major photo equipment dealers in New York City are Jewish?! > Really? All those that advertise nationally, as I said. Look at all the ads in the back of Pop Photo, for example. You'll see they're all closed on Saturday, open on Sunday. Willoughby's is probably NYC's oldest camera store -- it's older than I am, and I'm pretty old -- and it is open both Saturday and Sunday. But they don't advertise in the photo magazines as far as I know. I've never seen them advertise in Popular Photography or the old Modern Photography. Neil > >> All nationally advertised photo dealers in NYC are closed before sundown > >> Friday and all day Saturday. It is reasonable to assume then that they [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > don't advertise in the photo magazines as far as I know. I've never seen > them advertise in Popular Photography or the old Modern Photography. Any idea why this is so? Is there a special connection between Jews and photography? I find it quite surprising. Judaism does not seem to be a particularly visual culture (and is very wary of certain kinds of visual representation). Daniele >> >> All nationally advertised photo dealers in NYC are closed before >> >> sundown [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > visual culture (and is very wary of certain kinds of visual > representation). That's true -- religionwise they're down on pictures (the graven image thing). No pictures of Abraham, Moses et al. There are certain spheres of business in which Jews have come to either have it all for themselves, or at least strongly predominate. Diamonds, jewelry, movie making and media generally in the U.S. are examples of this, and in NYC they clearly have a corner on the photo equipment market. There appears to be some networking between many Jews for their mutual benefit. Neil > All those that advertise nationally, as I said. Look at all the ads in the > back of Pop Photo, for example. You'll see they're all closed on Saturday, > open on Sunday. I have the March 2007 PopPhoto on my desk. Calumet's open Saturdays & they took 5 ad pages. Samy's there too and also open Sat. The ad from Robert's doesn't list hours but their web site does and they're open Sat too. What's the old saying about generalizations . . .??? __ _ Henry Posner B&H Photo-Video, Inc. >> All those that advertise nationally, as I said. Look at all the ads in >> the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Henry Posner > B&H Photo-Video, Inc. Touche Henry! >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They need to get about 10,000 e-mails a day saying they are a bunch of a.s > holes. I'd be interested to know why you or anyone else thinks they'd care. I think it's a relatively safe assumption they already know what they are, yet they don't seem to be trying to change, ergo... Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' >>>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>>> page. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >think it's a relatively safe assumption they already know what they are, >yet they don't seem to be trying to change, ergo... They'd do what politicians do - hire someone to filter them out, and maybe say something like, "Thank you for your many suggestions. We will look into them." SignatureTHIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Don Imus met with the Rutgers women's basketball team Thursday and apologized to them for hours. It left a sour taste. Don Imus just got a telegram from the Stetson showroom in New York saying if he's going to grovel he will have to give back the hat. >> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >> page. >> >> http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=sndslra100&discontinued=1&itemname=Cyber shot%20DSC-R1,%2010.3%20Megapixel,%205x%20Optical/2x%20Digital%20Zoom,%20Digital %20Camera%20(DSCR1) > >It staggers me that these stores are allowed to stay in business. They are "allowed" to stay in business by the morons who buy from them. >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They are "allowed" to stay in business by the morons who buy from > them. If that's the case, I wonder how many memory cards RichA bought from them. > >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the > >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > If that's the case, I wonder how many memory cards RichA bought from them. Yes, it's not like I originated the thread, huh K-Y? >>>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>>> page. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >If that's the case, I wonder how many memory cards RichA bought from them. Probably a few more or less than you did. Please take your petty feud elsewhere. >>>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>>> page. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> They are "allowed" to stay in business by the morons who buy from >> them. >If that's the case, I wonder how many memory cards RichA bought from them. None. They have plastic in them. Signature--- Paul J. Gans >>> Check out the prices of the memory cards on the right hand side of the >>> page. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They are "allowed" to stay in business by the morons who buy from > them. So why don't the clever people just shoot them? |
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