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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / April 2007

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Holy!  DSLR versus P&S look at this result!

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RichA - 11 Apr 2007 22:57 GMT
Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
P&S.  Most of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras aren't fit
for anything, but Fuji has done a good job here.
In-case anyone needs a DSLR pocketable back-up camera.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf31fd/page15.asp
John Bean - 11 Apr 2007 23:17 GMT
>Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
>bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
>P&S.  Most of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras aren't fit
>for anything, but Fuji has done a good job here.
>In-case anyone needs a DSLR pocketable back-up camera.
>http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf31fd/page15.asp

The Fuji Fxx doesn't have a 1/2.5" sensor so it isn't one
"of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras" in the
first place.

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Phil K - 12 Apr 2007 01:32 GMT
>>Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
>>bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> "of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras" in the
> first place.

RichA, a well-known catamite, doesn't own a camera.
Terry Austin - 12 Apr 2007 05:11 GMT
"Phil K" <bjharding23@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:t6fTh.7892$u03.4781
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net:

>>>Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
>>>bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> RichA, a well-known catamite, doesn't own a camera.

And wouldn't know how to use one if he did. Though I suppose he's *posed*
often enough for his "uncle."

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RichA - 12 Apr 2007 15:18 GMT
On Apr 12, 12:11 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> "Phil K" <bjhardin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:t6fTh.7892$u03.4781
> @newssvr21.news.prodigy.net:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> And wouldn't know how to use one if he did. Though I suppose he's *posed*
> often enough for his "uncle."

Oh the projection from you too is papable!
No 33 Secretary - 12 Apr 2007 17:44 GMT
> On Apr 12, 12:11 am, Terry Austin
> <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Oh the projection from you too is papable!

I know you are, but what am I?

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Jeroen Wenting - 14 Apr 2007 07:34 GMT
>> Oh the projection from you too is papable!
>>
> I know you are, but what am I?

Papable: proper behaviour for a papal appointee (so a bishop or cardinal).
RichA - 12 Apr 2007 01:43 GMT
> On 11 Apr 2007 14:57:03 -0700, "RichA"
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --
> John Bean

I know.  I mentioned 1/2.5" because it has become the most-used sensor
in those near useless long zoom P&Ss.
There are still a few P&S using larger sensors, not many though.
Wolfgang Weisselberg - 12 Apr 2007 21:36 GMT
> On 11 Apr 2007 14:57:03 -0700, "RichA"
[something undigested]

> The Fuji Fxx doesn't have a 1/2.5" sensor so it isn't one
> "of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras" in the
> first place.

That's using facts!  That's discriminatory to use against
fact-challenged people like RichA!

-Wolfgang
John Bean - 12 Apr 2007 22:38 GMT
>> On 11 Apr 2007 14:57:03 -0700, "RichA"
>[something undigested]
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>That's using facts!  That's discriminatory to use against
>fact-challenged people like RichA!

Sorry Wolfgang, I'll try harder to stay PC in future ;-)

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Toby - 12 Apr 2007 02:40 GMT
> Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
> bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
> P&S.  Most of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras aren't fit
> for anything, but Fuji has done a good job here.
> In-case anyone needs a DSLR pocketable back-up camera.
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf31fd/page15.asp

Well, of course--the Fuji has a metal body and the Nikon is made of
>yecch!<...plastic...

Toby
RichA - 12 Apr 2007 15:17 GMT
> > Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
> > bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Toby

The Fuji is a metal-plastic combo.
achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 12 Apr 2007 16:15 GMT
> Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
> bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
> P&S.  Most of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras aren't fit
> for anything, but Fuji has done a good job here.
> In-case anyone needs a DSLR pocketable back-up camera.http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf31fd/page15.asp

But high-contrast detail (like in the bottle neck label) easily
survives heavy noise reduction. Looking at the images, it is obvious
that a lot of smoothing and then sharpening was applied to the fuji
image. For example, look at the texture on the camera leather (or
whatever it is): in the D50 image, it is visible, while in the fuji
image, it's not, and it looks like it was smoothed and then sharpened
(the remaining artifacts are characteristic of this).
Jeroen Wenting - 14 Apr 2007 07:37 GMT
> Not the usual outcome.  Take a look at the detail in the in the white
> bottle neck label.  Moire for the DSLR, none (and sharper) for the
> P&S.  Most of those miserable 1/2.5" sensored P&S cameras aren't fit
> for anything, but Fuji has done a good job here.
> In-case anyone needs a DSLR pocketable back-up camera.
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf31fd/page15.asp

Reminds me of the comparison a mag here made a few years ago of the Tamron
28-200 (first generation) and the 28-70 f/2.8 AF-S + 80-200 f/2.8 AF-S
Nikkor combo.
They concluded the Tamron was superior everywhere.
Cheaper, lighter, smaller, and you don't have to change lenses anymore.

Of course the only thing that really matters, image quality, was never
mentioned. The images illustrating the article didn't mention the lens or
camera used to make them, nor the film.
 
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