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Nikon AS-15 Hot shoe adapter

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Don JM - 05 Apr 2007 20:38 GMT
Hi everyone,
I just bought an AS-15 hot shoe/pc cord adapter for my Nikon D70s.
The dealer said that it will protect  the sync circuitry when  using
my older Vivitar 285 flash.   It does trigger the vivitar. However
the instructions that came with it say to use only Nikon flash
equipment.   So now I'm not 100% sure that this particular adapter
adequately protects the camera's electronics. Any thoughts?  I
apologize if this has been asked previously.
Don M.
nospam - 05 Apr 2007 21:15 GMT
> Hi everyone,
> I just bought an AS-15 hot shoe/pc cord adapter for my Nikon D70s.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> adequately protects the camera's electronics. Any thoughts?  I
> apologize if this has been asked previously.

the as-15 does not protect the camera from high trigger voltages.  it
just converts the hotshoe to a pc cord.

according to:
<http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html>
the trigger voltage of a vivitar 285 can be as high as 350v.  that
would fry the nikon.  if your camera still works, then yours probably
isn't that high.  best to test it to be sure.

if you want high trigger voltage protection, you need a wein safe sync:
<http://www.weinproducts.com/safesyncs.htm>

nikon, of course, will only recommend nikon flashes.  other flashes
work fine, but they won't do ttl with the camera (unless they
specifically support i-ttl, which a scant few do).
Robert Brace - 06 Apr 2007 00:06 GMT
> Hi everyone,
> I just bought an AS-15 hot shoe/pc cord adapter for my Nikon D70s. The
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> asked previously.
> Don M.

The Nikon AS-15 DOES NOT provide high sync voltage protection.  It simply
gives you a PC terminal connection to use with recommended flash units so a
sync cord can be used for triggering those flashes with cameras that only
have a hot shoe and no PC connection.
That is why only Nikon flashes are recommended.  That way you will not
exceed the recommended flash sync voltage and damage your camera.
Bob
DoN. Nichols - 06 Apr 2007 00:08 GMT
According to Don JM  <minnie4@primus.ca>:
> Hi everyone,
> I just bought an AS-15 hot shoe/pc cord adapter for my Nikon D70s.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> adequately protects the camera's electronics. Any thoughts?  I
> apologize if this has been asked previously.

    The AS-15 offers *no* protection.  It is just a simple adaptor.
It connects the center contact in the shoe to the center contact of the
PC connector, and the side rails of the shoe to the outer contact of the
PC connector. (From back in the days when "PC" meant "Prontor-Compur"
instead of later "Printed Circuit", and later "Personal Computer", and
currently short for "PCMCIA Card". :-)

    If you want to verify this, and have a small (jeweler's size)
Phillips screwdriver, remove the two black-headed screws in the corners
beside the "foot", and examine what is in there -- just the connectors
and wire -- nothing protective at all.

    Now -- if you have electronic test equipment (in particular, a
voltmeter or a multimeter), fire up your flash and measure the voltage
between the shell and the center pin of the PC connector from the flash.
The negative probe should go to the shell, and the positive probe to the
center pin.  If the meter needle tries to go downscale (below zero) than
the polarity of the connector is wrong for the D70.  If it goes up,
check the voltage, and compare it to the listed maximum voltage in the
camera's manual.  I forget whether it is 100 V or 150 V.

    Of course, you know that the iTTL metering of the camera won't
work with this flash, so you'll have to use auto mode, or purely manual.
(And in either case, be sure to turn off AUTO-ISO (if you have it
enabled) because the flash's auto mode, or your calculations, will
expect a constant ISO.

    Sorry for the bad news,
        DoN.

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george - 06 Apr 2007 03:43 GMT
> Now -- if you have electronic test equipment (in particular, a
> voltmeter or a multimeter), fire up your flash and measure the voltage
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> check the voltage, and compare it to the listed maximum voltage in the
> camera's manual.  I forget whether it is 100 V or 150 V.

The D70 maximum sync voltage is either 150V or 250V (I think it is 250V).
(My old 283 had a sync voltage of 135V, but I still used a Wein SafeSync
with it.)
Don JM - 06 Apr 2007 04:25 GMT
>> Now -- if you have electronic test equipment (in particular, a
>> voltmeter or a multimeter), fire up your flash and measure the voltage
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> (My old 283 had a sync voltage of 135V, but I still used a Wein SafeSync
> with it.)

Thank you so much everyone.  I did fire the vivitar 285 twice using
the AS-15 adapter on my D70S and the camera electronics still work ok.
However I'll not do it again without a proper adapter (Wein SafeSync).
Thanks again. Much appreciated.
Don Mincoff
Don Mincoff - 06 Apr 2007 05:11 GMT
I checked the voltages on both my old 283  and 285..  The 283 indicated
110V, the 285 indiacted  5.8V ???
The camera manual D70s warns not to exceed 250V. Maybe I'm safe?   but I'm
going to get a Wein SafeSync adapter anyway.  Thanks again.
Don Mincoff

>> Now -- if you have electronic test equipment (in particular, a
>> voltmeter or a multimeter), fire up your flash and measure the voltage
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> (My old 283 had a sync voltage of 135V, but I still used a Wein SafeSync
> with it.)
george - 08 Apr 2007 01:42 GMT
>I checked the voltages on both my old 283  and 285..  The 283 indicated
>110V, the 285 indiacted  5.8V ???

Probably accurate.  Both the 283 and 285 have been produced for a LONG
time...the older ones had the higher sync voltages (mine was at least 25
years old and measured 135V) while the latest Chinese made ones were
reported to have 6V sync voltages.  When in doubt, check and/or use a Wein
SafeSync.

> The camera manual D70s warns not to exceed 250V. Maybe I'm safe?   but I'm
> going to get a Wein SafeSync adapter anyway.  Thanks again.
> Don Mincoff
C J Campbell - 06 Apr 2007 23:47 GMT
> the instructions that came with it say to use only Nikon flash equipment.

The instructions that came with your camera say to use only Nikon accessories.
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