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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / April 2007shoot the moon
the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. but it's safe to shoot the moon? since it's reflective.. i wanna use my f2.8 180mm g > the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > g Yeah, you may notice the sun is one hell of a lot brighter than the moon. In fact, the moon is actually ground (as in a piece of the earth) with sunlight on it. Expose appropriately. -- www.mattclara.com Millions of photos of the moon get taken. It must be OK.  SignatureJoan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly : the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : g Aren't they taken with special cameras though. ;-) > Millions of photos of the moon get taken. It must be OK. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > : > : g Oh, you mean the ones with lenses? SignatureJoan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly : Aren't they taken with special cameras though. ;-) : [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : > : : > : g Actually a lens is not needed, you can even have a zoom with no lens if you like. http://www.digitalcameratracker.com/archives/2005/11/30/digital-pinhole-lens-hac k-at-digital-hack.html http://anttila.ca/michael/pinholelens/ http://anttila.ca/michael/pinholelens/ > Oh, you mean the ones with lenses? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > : > : > : > : g > the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. Most digitals include this warning - which I blithely ignore at my peril. Yes, you should definitely not have the sun shining down the lens barrel for more than a second or so, but there's *no* way I am going to restrict my photography so that I can't include the sun - in wide cityscapes, f'rinstance. And what about at dawn or dusk, when the IR/UV levels are much lower? Sorry, no sunsets, folks?? That's just silly. Anyway, I'm just curious, has anyone actually damaged their sensor, or heard a real report (not just hearsay) of a sensor being damaged because the sun was in shot? There's a good forum session here - in particular read the *2nd* post by Jeff Medkeff - he sounds like he might know a bit about the subject. http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=009ltO&tag= There are some related issues here about using SLR viewfinders (be careful of your *eyes*!!), and the fact that non-dslrs would be much more susceptible to damage as the sensor is exposed continually - before, during and after exposure.. > but it's safe to shoot the moon? since it's reflective.. Yes, of course. But you should use sensible exposures - as pointed out above, a moon exposure is about the same as exposure for a (slightly dull) daylight scene. >> the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > more susceptible to damage as the sensor is exposed continually - > before, during and after exposure.. Just a comment here but it doesn't take long to burn a hole in the shutter on a Leica M. DAMHIKT. Twice. One would expect the same to be true of a sensor. OTOH, on a DSLR the sensor is not exposed except during the shot and I doubt that the mirror would be damaged, but the focusing screen is usually plastic and I can imagine it being damaged if you managed to do everything just wrong with a fast lens, still, being transparent it doesn't absorb a lot of energy, but they do have marks on them for focus points and the like--if you managed to put the convergence point on one of those (which means leaving the lens focused at less than infinity) for a while I can see the potential for damage occurring. Of course there is the good old greenhouse effect. >> but it's safe to shoot the moon? since it's reflective.. > Yes, of course. But you should use sensible exposures - as pointed > out above, a moon exposure is about the same as exposure for a > (slightly dull) daylight scene. Signature-- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) > Anyway, I'm just curious, has anyone actually damaged their sensor, or > heard a real report (not just hearsay) of a sensor being damaged > because the sun was in shot? I have taken many photos of the full sun with a Coolpix 990. It did absolutely no harm to the sensor, nor to the LCD screen. Here's a bright one: http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/cdjpgs/bigsun.jpg However I would not try it on my DSLR since it can damage your eye, not the sensor. Signaturem-m >> the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > out above, a moon exposure is about the same as exposure for a > (slightly dull) daylight scene. I have taken photos of the sun with my Canon 10D without any apparent problems. However, it was not the sun on a bright sunny day. All the shots have either been sunsets or the sun through forest fire smoke (it was about 2 or 3 times as bright as a full moom). Ron > the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. > > but it's safe to shoot the moon? since it's reflective.. > > i wanna use my f2.8 180mm It's completely safe to shoot the moon: http://www.pbase.com/whig/moon f2.8 180mm is not probably the best lens for it but try and see. SignaturePetri Lopia :: petri.REMOVElopia@iki.fi.invalid Galapagos Island, Lightnings, Nature, StormChasing, Moon etc. photos: http://www.petrilopia.net/ http://www.pbase.com/whig/ On Mar 31, 12:34 pm, Petri Lopia <petri.lopia@EISPAMMIA_kolumbus.fi.invalid> wrote: > > the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > f2.8 180mm is not probably the best lens for it but > try and see. The light flux from the moon is nowhere near high enough to do any damage. I don't know where people get these ideas from. > On Mar 31, 12:34 pm, Petri Lopia > <petri.lopia@EISPAMMIA_kolumbus.fi.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The light flux from the moon is nowhere near high enough to do any > damage. I don't know where people get these ideas from. So you could just turn down your flux capacity a little to get the shot. ;-) >> On Mar 31, 12:34 pm, Petri Lopia >> <petri.lopia@EISPAMMIA_kolumbus.fi.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > So you could just turn down your flux capacity a little to get the > shot. ;-) You mean flux capacitor? Ya. That's it... SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>> On Mar 31, 12:34 pm, Petri Lopia >>> <petri.lopia@EISPAMMIA_kolumbus.fi.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > You mean flux capacitor? > Ya. That's it... No, I meant "flux capacity", think about it. > On Mar 31, 12:34 pm, Petri Lopia ><petri.lopia@EISPAMMIA_kolumbus.fi.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The light flux from the moon is nowhere near high enough to do any > damage. Yep. I juts mean that with 180mm you will probably not get so interesting photo about the moon. And f2.8 is normally too much. about f9 or more would be better. > I don't know where people get these ideas from. No idea... peoples ask weird questions more now a days than before. Most peoples don't think before they as. SignaturePetri Lopia :: petri.REMOVElopia@iki.fi.invalid Galapagos Island, Lightnings, Nature, StormChasing, Moon etc. photos: http://www.petrilopia.net/ http://www.pbase.com/whig/ > the manual to my d100 sez not to shoot the sun.. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > g Let me guess, you're a rocket scientist, right? |
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