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Panasonic Vs Kodak Vs Minolta Vs Canon

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Nihal - 02 Dec 2004 19:08 GMT
Hi group,

I wish to buy a digital camera worth it's value. I have pinned down to
the following four, but unable to decide whihc one is the best. Could
you guys please help me out in choosing the "one"?

1. Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ 10K
2. Kodak Easyshare DX7590
3. Minolta DiMAGE Z3
4. Canon Powershot S1IS

Waiting for ur posts...

Cheers
Nihal
Ryadia - 02 Dec 2004 19:33 GMT
Minolta and Panasonic
Kodak easy share is crap
Powershots have resolution issues.
Go the Panasonic with no doubt. The Minolta is pretty good too.

> Hi group,
>
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> Cheers
> Nihal
Alan Browne - 02 Dec 2004 20:02 GMT
> I wish to buy a digital camera worth it's value. I have pinned down to
> the following four, but unable to decide whihc one is the best. Could
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 3. Minolta DiMAGE Z3
> 4. Canon Powershot S1IS

Wrong NG.  Try news:rec.photo.digital.zlr or news:rec.photo.digital

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Ryadia - 02 Dec 2004 21:41 GMT
Ahh. The militant enforcer, eh?
And when was the last time you posted off topic to a group, Alan?
While I'm on it... Your Sig is outside polite limits too.
I'm sure you know the one about glass houses and stones.

Doug

> > I wish to buy a digital camera worth it's value. I have pinned down to
> > the following four, but unable to decide whihc one is the best. Could
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David H. Lipman - 02 Dec 2004 21:56 GMT
Alan is right.

This is a dSLR News Group.  Those were digital but not SLR cameras.

"YOU" should have pointed that out in your reply and if you wanted to, then answer the
question.

Dave

| Ahh. The militant enforcer, eh?
| And when was the last time you posted off topic to a group, Alan?
| While I'm on it... Your Sig is outside polite limits too.
| I'm sure you know the one about glass houses and stones.
|
| Doug
Ryadia - 02 Dec 2004 22:08 GMT
> Alan is right.
>
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> |
> | Doug

So David...
Does not the charter of this group seek to avoid/prevent/discourage top
posting?
Did you not break the charter yourself just now?
Perhaps I see the stupidity of having a set of guidelines (rules?) in the
form of a Charter which are only ever used or evoked by people when *they*
feel like it. Those same people - which you can now class yourself as one -
turn a blind eye to their own activities which are outside the charter
whenever it suits them. What does that make you, David?

Doug
David H. Lipman - 02 Dec 2004 23:25 GMT
I always post On Topic.  Replies in a thread may go Off Topic.
I almost always Top Post.  It is my preference and *I will continue* to do so.

The rest of my replies are inline...

| So David...
| Does not the charter of this group seek to avoid/prevent/discourage top
| posting?

No.  It discourages >80 chars/line and more than 4 lines/sig.
When I stated they were stringent rules.  A very wise a smart man replied...
"That part of the charter is more of a suggested practice as opposed to
'hard rules' that are set out higher up in the charter.

There is rarely an excuse for more than a few lines in a sig.  The bit
about 80 chars is for those who have funky readers that don't wrap
intelligently."

| Did you not break the charter yourself just now?

No

| Perhaps I see the stupidity of having a set of guidelines (rules?) in the
| form of a Charter which are only ever used or evoked by people when *they*
| feel like it. Those same people - which you can now class yourself as one -
| turn a blind eye to their own activities which are outside the charter
| whenever it suits them. What does that make you, David?

A UseNet proponent who has been posting for ~15 years.

Dave
Greg Evans - 03 Dec 2004 01:11 GMT
> I almost always Top Post.  It is my preference and *I will continue*
> to do so.

You say that like it's something to be proud of.  Because you've done it for
15 years doesn't make it right, or even acceptable to the majority; it
merely proves you know how to dig your heels in against the prevailing
current.  I'm just sayin'.
David H. Lipman - 03 Dec 2004 01:29 GMT
I don't see there is a current.
I see three sides to the coin and there is no right way and no wrong way.
I will say there is a better way in some circumstances.

Dave

| > I almost always Top Post.  It is my preference and *I will continue*
| > to do so.
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| merely proves you know how to dig your heels in against the prevailing
| current.  I'm just sayin'.
Alan Browne - 03 Dec 2004 01:34 GMT
> I don't see there is a current.
> I see three sides to the coin and there is no right way and no wrong way.
> I will say there is a better way in some circumstances.

A: Because it's hard to follow
Q: Why?
A: No
Q: Should I top post?

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David H. Lipman - 03 Dec 2004 02:16 GMT
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| A: Because it's hard to follow
| Q: Why?
| A: No
| Q: Should I top post?
Alan Browne - 03 Dec 2004 01:30 GMT
>>I almost always Top Post.  It is my preference and *I will continue*
>>to do so.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> merely proves you know how to dig your heels in against the prevailing
> current.  I'm just sayin'.

And oh, how astutely!

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MrB - 04 Dec 2004 02:48 GMT
Amen, top posting is my preference also and I will continue to do it. I do
not wish to scroll to the bottom of the page to wade through everything I
have already read.

>I always post On Topic.  Replies in a thread may go Off Topic.
> I almost always Top Post.  It is my preference and *I will continue* to do
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>
> Dave
Chuck - 05 Dec 2004 03:40 GMT
top posting is the way to go IMO ...

> Amen, top posting is my preference also and I will continue to do it. I do
> not wish to scroll to the bottom of the page to wade through everything I
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> >
> > Dave
Alan Browne - 03 Dec 2004 00:50 GMT
> Ahh. The militant enforcer, eh?

er, no, the reason we created these divided NG's was to have the right topics in
the right place.  The OP would be better served there, and we would be better
served not to reply here with what he wants to know in order to keep this NG on
topic.

> And when was the last time you posted off topic to a group, Alan?

Oh, from time to time, but I don't make a big habit of it.

> While I'm on it... Your Sig is outside polite limits too

Nothing wrong with my sig.  I've kept it as compact as possible, and all of the
links are relevant to the NG's where I typically post.

> I'm sure you know the one about glass houses and stones.

People who live in grass houses should not stow thrones.  Yes indeed, they are
heavy those thrones.

BTW: Don't top post, Ryadia.  Pretty rude.

Cheers,
Alan

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Ryadia - 03 Dec 2004 02:59 GMT
> > Ahh. The militant enforcer, eh?
>
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Ryadia - 03 Dec 2004 03:00 GMT
> BTW: Don't top post, Ryadia.  Pretty rude.

No ruder than to use more than 3 lines in a sig Alan.
Alan Browne - 03 Dec 2004 03:06 GMT
>>BTW: Don't top post, Ryadia.  Pretty rude.
>
> No ruder than to use more than 3 lines in a sig Alan.

Hardly.

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andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid - 03 Dec 2004 12:23 GMT
>>>BTW: Don't top post, Ryadia.  Pretty rude.
>>
>> No ruder than to use more than 3 lines in a sig Alan.

> Hardly.

The rule is four lines.

Andrew.
Tom Scales - 03 Dec 2004 15:22 GMT
Rule?  Guideline.

Big difference.

>>>>BTW: Don't top post, Ryadia.  Pretty rude.
>>>
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>
> Andrew.
Ryadia - 03 Dec 2004 21:43 GMT
> Rule?  Guideline.

Oh Tom....
Some people are like little puppies. Need to be trained and have rules to be
accepted. It's not even a guideline. AFAICT it stems from the dark old days
of teletext when every character sent was an drain on a network. Someone
pointed out on Sourceforge or freshmeat (can't remember which) a set of
proposed standards for Usenet postings which adopted a lot of teletext
guidelines.

A lot of use of Usenet and the quasi standards adopted were from teletext.
Using a personal sig longer than 3 lines with a separator above, added
significant load to messages. If you really are interested in this totally
off topic subject, do a search on Yahoo or Goggle for personal sig RFC. That
should make your day!

Incidentally... Alan's sig is 5 lines in total (4 plus separator). Like I
said in my first post: Some people choose to use the "rules" when it suits
them and deny all knowledge of them when it doesn't. That is just human
nature. If Alan is to be the (unofficial) policeman of this group, then I
will point out his short comings (and there are more than just his sig) when
he gets up someone for doing something he doesn't like. Live and let live,
Alan. And hey... When did you get the DSLR? I thought you were a film kinda
guy.

Doug
John Francis - 03 Dec 2004 22:01 GMT
>Incidentally... Alan's sig is 5 lines in total (4 plus separator). Like I
>said in my first post: Some people choose to use the "rules" when it suits
>them and deny all knowledge of them when it doesn't. That is just human
>nature.

If you're going to be anal about the rules, you really ought to get them
right.  The separator line doesn't count towards the suggested four-line
limit.  But you know this, of course - you just choose to ignore it :-)
Alan Browne - 03 Dec 2004 22:46 GMT
> Incidentally... Alan's sig is 5 lines in total (4 plus separator). Like I
> said in my first post: Some people choose to use the "rules" when it suits
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Alan. And hey... When did you get the DSLR? I thought you were a film kinda
> guy.

1) The seperator is inserted by Netscape. 2) 4 lines are hardly abusive. 3) The
Charter for this NG says 4 lines in a sig. 4) The whole point of this NG is
digital SLR equipment and someone stumbled in here with the right question in
the wrong place... all I did was tell his where the right place was. 5) I don't
answer to you. 6) Yeah I shoot film and no doubt I'll be shooting more digital
in the future.

Cheers,
Alan

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Charles - 03 Dec 2004 23:49 GMT
> A lot of use of Usenet and the quasi standards adopted were from teletext.
> Using a personal sig longer than 3 lines with a separator above, added
> significant load to messages. If you really are interested in this totally
> off topic subject, do a search on Yahoo or Goggle for personal sig RFC. That
> should make your day!

I suggest you do the search, bub. You are wrong ( you probably know you
are wrong). The proper etiquette is no more than 4 lines not including
the seperator. The seperator is not part of the signature. It is an
indicator so that properly written newsreaders will know that it is the
signature below the seperator and the message above, so that when
posting a followup that includes quoted text, the signature is not
quoted, it is omitted in the quoted text in the followup.

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Gisle Hannemyr - 03 Dec 2004 14:25 GMT
> I wish to buy a digital camera worth it's value. I have pinned down to
> the following four, but unable to decide whihc one is the best. Could
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> 3. Minolta DiMAGE Z3
> 4. Canon Powershot S1IS

None of the above are digital SLRs, so they are not what you
are looking for.

I would suggest you buy the Nikon D70 with the kit lens.
A very good camera with a true SLR feel to it.
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