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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / April 2007

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Canon Digital Rebel - starter lens recommendation

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Acerola - 30 Mar 2007 19:58 GMT
After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera. So,
I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.

I was thinking of just getting the stock lens that comes with most
Digital Rebels, but would consider buying separately and spending a
little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+ lens that I've seen).
Thanks.
plb49 - 30 Mar 2007 20:11 GMT
> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera. So,
> I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+ lens that I've seen).
> Thanks.

I've replaced the kit lens with the 17-85 EF-S IS--quite pleased with
it!
Paul B.
Charles Schuler - 30 Mar 2007 21:21 GMT
> I've replaced the kit lens with the 17-85 EF-S IS--quite pleased with
> it!

A very nice lens.
No 33 Secretary - 31 Mar 2007 00:35 GMT
>> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR
>> camera. So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I've replaced the kit lens with the 17-85 EF-S IS--quite pleased
> with it!

Same here, on the reccomendation of the local shop I bought from.
Couldn't be happier. It's a $600 lens, but you just don't get
decent quality glass for less than that.

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jean - 02 Apr 2007 04:54 GMT
> >> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR
> >> camera. So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Couldn't be happier. It's a $600 lens, but you just don't get
> decent quality glass for less than that.

At $600 you are half way to a great lens, the 24-105 f4 L IS, I know it's
expensive but you will not regret it, it's super sharp.  It misses a bit on
the wide end but has a bit more reach on the long end.  Great travel lens.

Jean
No 33 Secretary - 02 Apr 2007 17:21 GMT
>> >> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR
>> >> camera. So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> At $600 you are half way to a great lens,

I agree. And half way to a great lens is a good lens.

> the 24-105 f4 L IS, I
> know it's expensive but you will not regret it, it's super
> sharp.  It misses a bit on the wide end but has a bit more reach
> on the long end.  Great travel lens.

Only if you have the cash for it. If your budget covers a $600
lens, but no more, it's a good choice.

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Phil, Non-Squid - 03 Apr 2007 09:30 GMT
>>>> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR
>>>> camera. So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> misses a bit on the wide end but has a bit more reach on the long
> end.  Great travel lens.

Or you could save $600 and stop it down two stops to get almost the same
sharpness ;)
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Phil, Non-Squid - 03 Apr 2007 09:27 GMT
>> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera.
>> So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> it!
> Paul B.

Me too.  For $400, it's a steal!
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ShibbyShane - 31 Mar 2007 06:53 GMT
> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera. So,
> I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+ lens that I've seen).
> Thanks.

I would recommend getting a lens other than the stock lens that comes
with most of them, it's not a great lens. When I bought my Digital
Rebel, I purchased the Canon 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 lens, which can be
bought for anywhere between $150-200. I bought mine on ebay. It's a
great lens for the price, really sharp, I've had no problems with it
and would recommend it.
Robert Coe - 31 Mar 2007 21:18 GMT
: > After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera. So,
: > I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
: great lens for the price, really sharp, I've had no problems with it
: and would recommend it.

I did exactly the same thing. (Great minds think alike.) But when I started to
learn more about DSLR optics, I realized that that lens on a Rebel is a
moderately long telephoto. So on the advice of a colleague at work, I bought a
Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 as my second lens. It's big and heavy (bigger than the
Canon 28-105), but has the nice feature of maintaining f/2.8 throughout the
zoom range. I've been happy with both lenses so far (2 or 3 thousand images).

Bob
J. Clarke - 31 Mar 2007 11:24 GMT
> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera.
> So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+ lens that I've
> seen). Thanks.

Another vote for the 17-85.  Very versatile.

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Joseph Meehan - 31 Mar 2007 12:21 GMT
> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera.
> So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+ lens that I've
> seen). Thanks.

   Define "better."   You have not told us what your needs for a lens are.
It would be difficult to suggest a lens that would be better for you without
that information.

   Frankly I suggest getting the kit lens.  It really is a very nice lens.
While it has the feel of something very cheap and it does not cost much, the
results it actually produces are rather good and it does make a good general
use lens for most people.

   Until you have used the camera and formed a personal opinion on what
might be better for you, that kit lens is IMO a perfect choice.

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HEMI-Powered - 31 Mar 2007 13:48 GMT
Today, Acerola made these interesting comments ...

> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR
> camera. So, I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> spending a little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+
> lens that I've seen). Thanks.

What kind(s) of photography do you intend to get involved in? I
like the so-called kit lens when I want the smallest, most compact
lens I have when I just want to sling my camera over my shoulder.
It is an OK lens, but you get what you pay for.

Depending on what you want to do, you may want to look at good 3rd
party lenses from Sigma and Tamron, especially for lenses with a
long zoom range. If you want the utmost in quality, then look for
Canon's so-called L-glass zooms or primes, but be prepared to pay
for the quality, they are pricey.

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VK - 31 Mar 2007 17:16 GMT
> I was thinking of just getting the stock lens that comes with most
> Digital Rebels, but would consider buying separately and spending a
> little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+ lens that I've seen).
> Thanks

Eventually, you will want a better lens than the stock lens that came
with the camera.  But dont assume that you'll need to upgrade right
away.

If you are serious about photography, you'll be building a system.  If
you have lots of money, you can buy a 10-22, 24-70, 70-200 and be done
with it.  For the rest of the world, the sensible approach is to build
a system piecemeal.

Where you allocate your resources will depend upon what type of
shooting you do.  For a lot of people, the 70-200 lens is one of their
most used focal ranges.  For me, it is one of my least used lenses.
My most used lenses are the 500/4 and the 17-40.  Quite a ways apart.
Others can advise you on which lenses in a particular range are good -
but no one can tell you which range is best for *you*.

So instead of having people tell you which lens to buy, start by
shooting with the lens that you have.  Eventually, you will figure out
what is the most limiting factor with this lens - perhaps you'll find
that the focal length is great, but images arent sharp enough or you
need a faster lens.  If so, get a better standard zoom (18-55/2.8...
Canon, Sigma & Tamron all make excellent lenses in this range).
Perhaps you want to go wider.  Perhaps you want to go longer.

I have more info on good lenses in the various ranges, as well as a
more detailed article on choosing starter lenses for your DSLR here:
http://www.photosafariindia.com/articles/beg2-lenses.html

Cheers,
Vandit
Paul Furman - 01 Apr 2007 03:52 GMT
> After years of my point and shoot, I'm getting my first dSLR camera. So,
> I'm new to the paradigm of the lens holding so much importance.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> little more for a better lens (but not some $1000+ lens that I've seen).
> Thanks.

I'd suggest maybe getting the kit lens just cause it's cheap & handy &
you won't know the difference for a while plus a 28mm f/2.8 or Sigma
30mm f.1,4 which translates to a traditional 50mm 'normal' lens. That's
what people have used for ages and it's the most useful focal length for
general purpose shooting. The large aperture (small f-stop number) lets
you shoot in low light (invaluable for indoor family or party photos
with groups of people) and it permits a shallow depth of field which is
useful for artistic effect and creating soft backgrounds in portraits.
It's wide enough for most vacation scenery and generally represents wht
your normal eye sees so it's an intuitive way to shoot. The moderate
range means it's not difficult to make an excellent quality lens. You
can compare the two and learn the difference between fine glas and
consumer glass and be able to evaluate in time what other focal lengths
you might want.
 
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