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Use of monopod with DSLR

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jimphotog - 27 Feb 2007 22:53 GMT
I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
at least one quality Canon lens I wouldn't mind carrying forward, so that's
means I'm probably looking at the 30D and 5D, but all that's for a different
thread.  What's pertinent here is that neither of these are light weight
boxes, and I'll probably add on some pretty heavy glass, so question is: for
EVERYDAY living and packing and trekking, can an appropriate monopod take the
place of an inevitably clunky tripod?  I'm thinking something collapsible,
maybe even packable, light weight, preferably with some sort of quick-release
head.  I wouldn't shy from buying a good one, just wouldn't want some
converted industrial I-beam, which obviously would override the convenience
of turning to a monopod in the first place.  I've lugged tripods forever, and
still would use one for planned, pre-set situations, but otherwise I just
like the idea of a less obtrusive monopod as my everyday companion for those
surprising gems we all just sort of stumble upon.  If marginal, what about if
I turn to all IS lenses to help with stability?  I'm unfortunately a fast
glass guy, so not much to be done about the weight factor.  Never used a
monopod before, so any of you who've been there care to describe the
experience?  Thoughts?  Opinions?
Bill Funk - 27 Feb 2007 23:27 GMT
>I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
>sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
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>monopod before, so any of you who've been there care to describe the
>experience?  Thoughts?  Opinions?

I use one, but it's not, IMHO, a true replacement for a tripod.
It just isn't as stable.
But, depending on your use, it's certainly much better than nothing.
I use a Manfrotto 679b, BTW.

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jimphotog - 28 Feb 2007 00:13 GMT
>>I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
>>sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
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>But, depending on your use, it's certainly much better than nothing.
>I use a Manfrotto 679b, BTW.

Thanks, Bill.  I've tried a triangular shoulder harness, and looked
ridiculous, certainly not seemingly as sensible as a monopod.  I agree,
nothing's as stable as a tripod.  Question is, how did you feel about the
monopod for everyday utility, unplanned set-ups where you normally would only
have had your hands or maybe an inevitably wrong-angled building or tree to
rest your camera against?  Was it worth the effort?  Maybe I'm overstating
how unobtrusive a monopod is.  I'm picturing it as something I could lash to
or have poking out of my camera bag and always be there with me (tripod just
too clumsy for this kind of everyday presence) or even just be using as a
walking staff (although head may make it too silly for that.  I toured
Eastern Europe a couple years ago and carried a letter bag (12" x 12" x 3"
soft sided affair carried against my back or hip with a single strap either
over the shoulder or across the chest) with a 19" collapsed walking stick
carried diagonally inside, sticking out about 5" at the upper edge, and to me,
that was unobtrusive and convenient for quick use.  I'm picturing something
like that.  With new carbon materials, I assume there are monopods of a
suitable weight and strength in a reasonably thin collapsible form.  I'll
look up the brand you mentioned and see what they offer.  Main question I
pass back to you, though, is if your monopod effective for that 80% of the
time you touted your camera bag along with no clear vision in mind, or was it
just dead weight?  Again, thanks for responding.
Lionel - 28 Feb 2007 00:29 GMT
>>>I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
>>>sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
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>have had your hands or maybe an inevitably wrong-angled building or tree to
>rest your camera against?  Was it worth the effort?

I use a Manfrotto monopod (+ ballhead & quick-release plate) with my
DSLRs in those sorts of situations, & I definitely think it's
worthwhile.
They're also handy in situations where you're nervous about the
possibility that someone might try to mug you for your camera. ;)

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Bill Funk - 28 Feb 2007 15:21 GMT
>>>I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
>>>sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
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>time you touted your camera bag along with no clear vision in mind, or was it
>just dead weight?  Again, thanks for responding.

Actually, I don't carry it often; I don't carry the DSLR all the time,
only when I know I'll want it. (I have another compact P&S that I do
carry all the time for grab shots.)
And, I seem to be blessed in that I can hold the camera steady at some
pretty slow shutter speeds, so I don't need the support that often.
The monopod goes with me to the zoo, and when I go off-roading
(off-road means off paved roads, not rock-climbing!); it has a
quick-release head, so it's easy to mount in a short time. On our
upcoming Alaska cruise, it will go with me, too. It has a strap, so
carrying it isn't a problem.
I can't say anything ot the 80% question; often,when I carry it, I
don't use it, but it's certainly handy when I do use it. It's not
heavy to me, so it's not a burden.
But then, I'm a big(!) guy.

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jimphotog - 28 Feb 2007 17:55 GMT
>>>>I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
>>>>sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
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>heavy to me, so it's not a burden.
>But then, I'm a big(!) guy.

Thanks "big guy", it's this kind of experience telling that carries weight.
What you've described is about what I envision the mono to be like.  I have
been using an advanced P&S for a while now, so probably, like you, will
continue to carry something that on family outings, that sort of thing,
saving the DSLR for my personal wanderings and "off road" searches where I
don't bother everybody with my doddling.  I've had success similar to yours
in holding these little gems.  Really have to learn to do that, cause their
flashes, other than at times for portrait fill, generally are worth less than
nothing.  I'll think about what you said on subject of "quick release",
because I expect there's a judgment of weight vs. convenience to be made
there.  Thanks again.
RichA - 27 Feb 2007 23:44 GMT
> I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
> sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
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> maybe even packable, light weight, preferably with some sort of quick-release
> head.

It can't replace a tripod unless you have a secondary thing you can
prop it against and use the self-timer in the camera to do a
completely vibrationless shot.  Not always possible.  But they do
help.  IMO, a monopod is similar in it's function to IS, in that it
might give you a couple more stops than just  hand-holding. My advise
is to get a monopod that is as light as possible.  Some of the smaller
aluminums like the Manfrotto (Bogen) Digipod or a carbon fibre unit.
There is nothing more annoying than a heavy monopod to haul around.
jimphotog - 28 Feb 2007 00:19 GMT
>> I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
>> sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
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>aluminums like the Manfrotto (Bogen) Digipod or a carbon fibre unit.
>There is nothing more annoying than a heavy monopod to haul around.

Thanks for responding.  Check out my response to Bill Funk if you don't mind
taking the time.  Does that suggest anything?  Am I imagining the impossible?
I think your comment about being another supplement on top of IS is a good
one and possibly answers a lot of my uncertainty, because add them together
and you sure enough do get more added stops than IS taken alone, and that's
starting to sound pretty good.  Again, thanks.
jimphotog - 28 Feb 2007 04:15 GMT
>> I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I even
>> sell some, but overall probably best considered an advanced hobbyist.  I have
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>aluminums like the Manfrotto (Bogen) Digipod or a carbon fibre unit.
>There is nothing more annoying than a heavy monopod to haul around.
Thanks for the assist.  "Marginal assist" and "light weight" seem to be the
advice of the day, and makes sense.  I'm off to local shop tomorrow to have a
look first hand.  Valuable, though, to have gone through the thought process
in advance.  Again, thanks.
Alan Browne - 28 Feb 2007 00:54 GMT
> surprising gems we all just sort of stumble upon.  If marginal, what about if
> I turn to all IS lenses to help with stability?  I'm unfortunately a fast
> glass guy, so not much to be done about the weight factor.  Never used a
> monopod before, so any of you who've been there care to describe the
> experience?  Thoughts?  Opinions?

If you need fast setup stability for sports and fast moving nature
shoots, a _good_ monopod and a some technique will get you a lot of
added stability for marginal speed shots.

IS/VR is another way to get some stability at marginal shooting speeds.
 But not a substitute for a good tripod.

My somewhat old Manfrotto monopod is equivalent to the current 682
model.  A bit on the "rubust" side but extremely stable as well.

There are lighter monopods, but with an 80-200 f/2.8 or 300 f/2.8
(lenses I use the mono with most often) the heavier/sturdier pod is a
necessity.

Cheers,
Alan

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jimphotog - 28 Feb 2007 04:12 GMT
>> surprising gems we all just sort of stumble upon.  If marginal, what about if
>> I turn to all IS lenses to help with stability?  I'm unfortunately a fast
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>Cheers,
>Alan

Good comments, and thanks.  Guess decision will be based on juxtaposition of
inconvenience of having it in my pack vs. some level of assistance on
marginal shots.  I'm off to local shop tomorrow to have a first-hand look.
Again, thanks.
just bob - 28 Feb 2007 03:37 GMT
> I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I
> even
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> monopod before, so any of you who've been there care to describe the
> experience?  Thoughts?  Opinions?

My experience is monopods are good for heavy lenses and video cameras. Will
a monopod help me get down to 1/15 of a second when I can usually hand-hold
at 1/30 of a second? Maybe. But it's not enough for me to carry it around
when I can simply boost the ISO and then increase the shutter speed to
something I can easily hand-hold. Especially with a 5D or 30D with great
high ISO performance. I just cannot count on a monopod to steady a shot
under 1/15. Keep the shutter speed high or use a tripod.

My monopod is only used with my EF 300mm 2.8 non-IS because it's heavy and
the monopod helps me steady the lens for framing, especially with a
teleconverter attached.  But when I pull the trigger my shutter speed better
be 1/320 or higher if I want a sharp shot.

I've never used the collar on my 70-200 2.8 except for on my tripod when my
shutter speed must be under 1/30. And I've never had my camera on a monopod.
It's just not worth carrying for one f stop.

If you own a Canon DSLR and the shutter is a  bit slow, bump the ISO. If you
need a long exposure, use a tripod or be sorry or maybe lucky with a
monopod.
jimphotog - 28 Feb 2007 04:08 GMT
>> I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I
>> even
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>need a long exposure, use a tripod or be sorry or maybe lucky with a
>monopod.
 Thanks for response.  Your style of wisdom makes sense.  Being new to high-
end digital, I hadn't considered the low noise level of a 30D or especially a
5D at higher ISOs .  Liked graininess for certain shots on film, but not for
the things I have in mind here.  I see there could be value for a 300mm, and
will remember that.  Otherwise, guess I should consider a monopod of limited
value, juxtapose that against the inconvenience of having it in my pack, and
make judgement from there.  Thanks again.
default - 28 Feb 2007 04:12 GMT
> I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I
> even
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> monopod before, so any of you who've been there care to describe the
> experience?  Thoughts?  Opinions?

I use a Canon Monopod 100:

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And I take it almost everywhere.  It is inexpensive (~$30), quite strong,
collapses fairly small and has a convenient ball head.  It doesn't have a
quick release head, but it isn't difficult to quickly attach or remove.

It certainly isn't a replacement for a tripod in most circumstances, but it
does improve the enlargibility of my photos compared to hand-held.  With an
IS lens and a monopod you can get away with a lot.  It is much faster and
quicker for casual use than a tripod for sure.  It's also much less
obtrusive and draws less attention than a tripod.  Monopods aren't
particularly expensive.  Perhaps give one a try and see if it is what you
are looking for.
jimphotog - 28 Feb 2007 17:41 GMT
>> I'm ready to jump from film SLR to DSLR.  Been shooting for decades, I
>> even
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>particularly expensive.  Perhaps give one a try and see if it is what you
>are looking for.
Thank you for thoughtful response.  This is kind of the way I'd reasoned it.
I'll most certainly take a look at the Canon 100, along with others
recommended through this thread.  I truly feel that aside from planned pre-
set shoots where a tripod is a matter of course, a monopod just has to be the
way to add steadying assist convenient to everyday life.  Assuming I go IS,
which seems to have improved over the years to 2 or even 3 stops effective,
the mono seems even more appealing for non-planned catches.  Boils down, I
guess, to how unobtrusive the mono is, a matter of convenience vs. benefit,
so I'll take a look at local shops and make a judgement. Also, a plain screw
ball head probably is fine, maybe even preferable, because it's probably less
massive than a quick release.  At least that's the way I'm envisioning it.
Probably will end up with something pretty close to what you have, but
knowing me, I'll spend more just for that little extra saving in weight, that
little extra compactness, that little greater stiffness.  Kind of the way I
am with big boy toys, certainly not with anything else, so don't even feel
guilty.
 
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