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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / April 2005Tough camera choice question
Right now, I'm slogging along with a prosumer camera. My buying choices for a DSLR have come down to a handful but it's a tough decision. I've been an Olympus fan ever since I traded in a Minolta MD-11 for an Olympus OM-1. So, I wanted to stick with that brand, despite the incompatibility of lens sets between the older film and new digitals from them. However; The E-Volt 300 seems to have some drawbacks in terms of noise suppression. But, it does have the vibration mechanism for dust control. After having used many CCD cameras (scientific) with windowed CCDs and knowing the dust issues they have, this would seem to be a major plus. I would really rather not have to rely on software image manipulation to get rid of "motes." The E1 IMO, is lacking simply because it only has 5 megapixels versus cameras in it's price range with 6-8. Lastly; My best choice would seem to be to deviate from Olympus or wait for them to release a new version of the E1 with a larger pixel count. I assume it won't be far off. My "deviation" camera would be either a Canon 20D or the new 350 and I'm leaning toward the 350 for cost reasons. -Rich > Right now, I'm slogging along with a prosumer camera. > My buying choices for a DSLR have come down to a handful [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > and I'm leaning toward the 350 for cost reasons. > -Rich 350D is a good choice. I had used 300D for a year; then 20D for months. There is no need to do any software dust clean up for normal photographs. I only cleaned the 300D once, using a blower. >> Right now, I'm slogging along with a prosumer camera. >> My buying choices for a DSLR have come down to a handful [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > There is no need to do any software dust clean up for normal photographs. > I only cleaned the 300D once, using a blower. I had an E-20 for several years and was impressed with its solid build, so I bought an E-300 in late December. I've used for several thousand shots in very adverse winter conditions and been very pleased with the results. I also got the F2, 50mm macro and the 50-200mm telephoto. Both very good lenses. A camera definitely worth the money, although a larger buffer would be nice. <snip> The problem with the Olympus offerings is that they use the 4:3 standard. This is an extremely small sensor, and there are already noise issues at the current resolutions. If they bump the resolution to 8 megapixels, the noise will be even worse. The EOS-350D is a much better choice. See http://digitalslrinfo.com > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > See http://digitalslrinfo.com Here we go again with more of your agenda-driven "I know better - see my website" crap. Rent or borrow the equipment in which you are interested -- take some of the typical images you normally would -- compare the results -- buy what does the best job for you. End of story. Bob > Rent or borrow the equipment in which you are interested -- take some of > the typical images you normally would -- compare the results -- buy what > does the best job for you. This is quite impractical. For amateur equipment, renting is almost never available. And while a very good friend might lend someone a Canon or Nikon camera, it'd be very unlikely for the potential buyer actually knew anyone with one of the less common models, such as those from Olympus, Pentax, or Konica-Minolta--there just aren't a lot of them out there. What you do when deciding on a major purchase like this, is to look at multiple reviews of each product you are considering, and get personal recommendations (i.e. on Usenet). I created my web site because there was no central repository of unbiased information that looked at the pros and cons of each model, in a concise format. > End of story. Why is it whenever someone loses a debate, they use "End of Story?" As if this actually means anything. > I created my web site because there was no central repository of unbiased > information that looked at the pros and cons of each model, in a concise > format. There still isn't an unbiased one, yours being more biased than most.  SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com >> Rent or borrow the equipment in which you are interested -- take some of >> the typical images you normally would -- compare the results -- buy [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >This is quite impractical. For amateur equipment, renting is almost never >available. It's certainly not cost-effective, or convenient, even if you can find a rental outlet. >And while a very good friend might lend someone a Canon or Nikon >camera Heh. A *Very* good friend let me use his 20D for a few minutes. That was long enough for me to learn that I had to have this camera :-) The bastard. (We're still friends.) > I created my web site because there was no > central repository of unbiased information that looked at the pros and cons > of each model, in a concise format. We'll be sure to steer people away from it lest they get the wrong ideas. > > I created my web site because there was no > > central repository of unbiased information that looked at the pros and cons > > of each model, in a concise format. > > We'll be sure to steer people away from it lest they get the wrong ideas. Who is we? I understand why you dislike my site, but please speak for yourself. > Who is we? I understand why you dislike my site, but please speak for > yourself. Circle your wagons. All one of them. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. What a bunch of a.sholes you are. > What a bunch of a.sholes you are. Why? Becasue the majority of us believe Steven is biased against everything w/o a Canon label attached to it? Or are there more general reasons? Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > > What a bunch of a.sholes you are. > > Why? Becasue the majority of us believe Steven is biased against > everything w/o a Canon label attached to it? Again, please don't invent a majority, just because you are upset with my site. You sound like Jerry Falwell. Res ipsa loquitur. > Res ipsa loquitur. What is clear is that you are a troll. | > Res ipsa loquitur. | | What is clear is that you are a troll. What is clear is that I am someone who is tired of topics deteriorating into a battle of wits between unarmed people. > What is clear is that I am someone who is tired of topics deteriorating into a > battle of wits between unarmed people. A tactical situation I'm sure you recognize in yourself? I've never seen "Larry Horse" contribute anything of any sort to this NG, so you're either an anonymous (and therefore likely cowardly) troll, or you simply have nothing to contribute, period. Cheers, Alan >> > What a bunch of a.sholes you are. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Again, please don't invent a majority, just because you are upset with my > site. You sound like Jerry Falwell. Steven, You keep ignoring me, but we've known each other for a long time. I think you're a Canon shill now. Don't know why, but you show it every single day. Tom >> Rent or borrow the equipment in which you are interested -- take some >> of [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Why is it whenever someone loses a debate, they use "End of Story?" As if > this actually means anything. Means about as much as your misguided opinions do Steven, you wouldn't even recognize this is not a debate if it jumped up & attached itself to the lower part of your anatomy. I, long ago, realized your input to any of my photographic decisions (never mind anyone else's) would be far less than useful. I just enjoy pointing it out when you, from time to time, seem to fall into some sort of hypnotic state wherein you deem to be the source of all knowledge. Bob > Means about as much as your misguided opinions do Steven, you wouldn't even > recognize this is not a debate if it jumped up & attached itself to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > fall into some sort of hypnotic state wherein you deem to be the source of > all knowledge. I do not claim to be the source of all knowledge, nor do I find it necessary to attack people that don't agree with me. Whatever your photographic decisions turn out to be are of no concern to me. You may want to consider raising your level of discourse out of gutter, as it does not reflect well on your position. >> Means about as much as your misguided opinions do Steven, you wouldn't > even [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I do not claim to be the source of all knowledge, Finally, something on which we are in complete agreement!!! nor do I find it necessary > to attack people that don't agree with me. I'm disappointed that you consider my comments an attack. My goal is to simply remind you that your agenda-driven views are just that. Whatever your photographic > decisions turn out to be are of no concern to me. Another point of agreement!! > You may want to consider raising your level of discourse out of gutter. There you go again: a minute ago it was a debate, now it has assumed a "level of discourse" which is not to your liking. Make up your mind and stop trying to make up other peoples' for them and the photographic world will be a better place for all. Bob >>> Means about as much as your misguided opinions do Steven, you wouldn't >> even [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > will be a better place for all. > Bob Hi Bob, Has he actually ever taken any photographs one has to wonder? |
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