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D200 defective!!! :(((

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Giovanni Azua - 05 Feb 2007 20:11 GMT
Hi all,

I got a new D200 and I thought it was losing the focus because of the
temperature < 0C or because of some setting but it now looks really
defective to me!! :((((

- I have three (All with CPU) lens:
     Nikkor 18-70mm AF ED
     Nikkor 18-200mm AF ED
     Nikkor 70-300mm AF ED

- Old D70
- New D200

The D70 Autofocus works perfectly OK with the three lenses above.

The brand new D200 does not!!!
- With the 18-200mm it just does not focus automatically and
  I had Reset the Menu settings and had: P Multi-Programming shooting
  mode, Lens switches to: M/A and focus mode S(ervo). It does not prevent
  me from taking out-of-focus pictures in this mode.
- With the 18-70mm it happens the same as with the 18-200mm
- With the 70-300mm it just blinks a message fEE and I can not decipher
anywhere
  not even in the D200 manual it is written what that means :((( almost for
sure either
  E stands for Error :((((

I got the camera on ebay with cameta camera power seller and I live
in Switzerland, am I totally screwed up now? even paying customs twice
for sending back-forth???!!! :((((

Nikon support told me the symptoms were pointing to the direction of the
D200
being defective.

Any ideas how to confirm it is the case? workarounds?

TIA,

Best regards,
Giovanni
Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 05 Feb 2007 21:30 GMT
>I got a new D200 and I thought it was losing the focus because of the
>temperature < 0C or because of some setting but it now looks really
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>   mode, Lens switches to: M/A and focus mode S(ervo). It does not prevent
>   me from taking out-of-focus pictures in this mode.

I assume you mean AF-S which is Single servo mode, vs. AF-C which is
Continuous servo mode.

>- With the 18-70mm it happens the same as with the 18-200mm
>- With the 70-300mm it just blinks a message fEE and I can not decipher
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Any ideas how to confirm it is the case? workarounds?

Verify that Custom Setting a2: AF-S Mode Priority Selection is set to Focus
if using AF-S mode (.148 of the fine manual). Check and clean the
electrical contacts on the body at the lens mount. Compare these to the
ones on your D70, sounds like a possible communication problem between the
lenses and the D200 body.
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Matt Clara - 06 Feb 2007 12:08 GMT
> Hi all,
>
> I got a new D200 and I thought it was losing the focus because of the
> temperature < 0C or because of some setting but it now looks really
> defective to me!! :((((

Just for a little perspective, my D200 is functioning flawlessly, and
there's no need to shout about your problem here, as none of us can solve it
for you.  Cameta is a big time ebay store, and they have a brick and mortar
presence as well.  I'm sure you can trust them.  However, you will most
likely have to use Nikon service to get your camera up and running again, or
replaced.  Start by contacting Cameta, and see what they say.
DoN. Nichols - 07 Feb 2007 05:11 GMT
According to Giovanni Azua <bravegag@hotmail.com>:
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> - Old D70
> - New D200

    [ ... ]

> - With the 70-300mm it just blinks a message fEE and I can not decipher
> anywhere
>    not even in the D200 manual it is written what that means :((( almost for
> sure either
>    E stands for Error :((((

    IIRC, that is the error you get if the lens is not stopped fully
down.  It certainly is in my D70.  Assuming that you have an aperture
ring on that lens (I don't know the lens from personal experience), then
the aperture ring should have a lock which can be engaged when it is
stopped down fully.

    I don't think that the D200 has the sensor which the D70 has for
that to show up however.

    If the lens is one of the new ones without an external aperture
ring, then it is likely to be communication problems between the CPU in
the lens and that in the camera.  Checking the contacts just inside the
lens mount ring and perhaps cleaning them by polishing with a lint-free
cloth for a little time might make a difference.

> I got the camera on ebay with cameta camera power seller and I live
> in Switzerland, am I totally screwed up now? even paying customs twice
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> D200
> being defective.

    Ouch!

> Any ideas how to confirm it is the case? workarounds?

    Take it to someone local with experience who can compare it to
another camera of the same sort.

    Good Luck,
        DoN.
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Remco Raaphorst - 07 Feb 2007 08:22 GMT
>      I don't think that the D200 has the sensor which the D70 has
>      for
> that to show up however.

Yes it has. When I mount my AF 50/1.8D with the aperture ring not set
to the largest value it displays the fEE error. When I do not mount a
lens and move the coupling on the outer ring of the lensmount the
aperture value readout on the top lcd changes. Apparently the D200
knows what lens can have the aperture set from the camera body (by
cpu?) and expects the aperture ring to be in the smallest position.
Perhaps there is an option in the camera menu to change this behaviour,  
I don't have time now to figure that out.

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Paul Furman - 07 Feb 2007 23:53 GMT
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>  
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> IIRC, that is the error you get if the lens is not stopped fully
>> down.

Same fEE blink on the D200 with a micro-chipped lens. Set the ring to
f/22 and adjust aperture with the front dial on the body.

>> It certainly is in my D70.  Assuming that you have an aperture
>> ring on that lens (I don't know the lens from personal experience), then
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Perhaps there is an option in the camera menu to change this behaviour,  
> I don't have time now to figure that out.

With an older un-chipped AI lens you actually use the aperture ring. In
this case you need to enter the max f/stop and focal length of the lens
in the menu to tell the camera and meter where it's stopping down from.

f/? - - - - - -> f/22

menu: 28mm f/2

f/2 - - - - - -> f/22

The camera doesn't know what units to use for the aperture tab till you
tell it, that's all the microchip does is report this simple data and
maybe some other gunk for the EXIF. When used this way, the EXIF data
reads f/0.0 as the max aperture (a mistake in the firmware) but it does
record 28mm focal length.
 
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