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DSLR won't meter longer than 30 seconds exposures.

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Paul Furman - 31 Jan 2007 21:15 GMT
I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
and apparently the only way to exceed 30 seconds is to hold my finger on
the shutter. Is this common behavior for camera meter systems? Maybe I
missed something in the manual?

Here's an example image where the meter read "LO" but it was close
enough to look fine, a few minutes later there wasn't even enough light
to focus and it came out underexposed:
<http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/Natur
al-Areas/Presidio&PG=3&PIC=15
>

I know, I need a remote, just can't decide if the expensive Nikon model
is worth it & not sure if the cheap $40 third-party remotes will give me
what I need, or an older simpler used nikon remote... I suppose an
illuminated LCD display could be handy in the dark... speaking of not
reading the manual, I still can't figure out how to backlight the top
LCD on this beast... I don't do much shooting in extreme darkness.
Ken Lucke - 31 Jan 2007 21:19 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
> and apparently the only way to exceed 30 seconds is to hold my finger on
> the shutter. Is this common behavior for camera meter systems? Maybe I
> missed something in the manual?

Don't have a Nikon, but for >30 second exposures, check for "Bulb" or
similar in Manual mode, and yes, you either have to keep your finger on
the button or get a cable release that will lock in the "open"
position.

And "metering" won't work, either - you have to guestimate and
testimate your very long exposure shots.

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CJS - 05 Feb 2007 23:32 GMT
> And "metering" won't work, either - you have to guestimate and
> testimate your very long exposure shots.

One "quick and dirty" trick is to see if you can get a metering at max ISO,
then (when shooting at minimum ISO), double the exposure time for each
doubling of the ISO that you originally set the camera to for metering.

eg If the camera, set at 3200 ISO, says that 20 seconds is the "magic
number" then you'd use 640 seconds at ISO 100 - you can extrapolate even
further by making appropriate allowances if the meter reads 1 or 2 stops
under.
Mark² - 31 Jan 2007 21:43 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> backlight the top LCD on this beast... I don't do much shooting in
> extreme darkness.

My Canon Timer remote was easily the best $135 I've spent related to
photogarphy.
Nikon likely makes a similar remote...  With it, I can not only trip the
shutter (and prefocus if preferred), but I can tell it how many frames to
take...at what interval of time...and after waiting for a time I specify--  
and how long to hold the shutter open (without having to hold it myself) up
to many hours(!) if necessary--though I would only suggest using film for
such an exposure.   This is great for group shots where you are part of the
group, for example, because it means you can tell it to take 5 or 6 (or 99)
shots without having to walk back over the the the camera each time.  It's
also got an illuminated LCD, which makes an awful lot of sense considering
that you'd often use it in dark settings.

Settings/controls include:
-Time until first frame
-Number of frames
-Time between each frame (interval)
-Shutter open time (up to 99 hours+)
-Start/Stop
-Shutter with half/full press
-Lock shutter switch (so you don't have to actually HOLD it down during
extremely long exposures)
-Adjustment wheel
-Ilumination button

Not bad for the $135.  Surely Nikon has something simlar.

About your first question...  It's normal to have a 30 second limit on even
high-end SLR/DSLRs for auto, or dialed-in exposure.  Beyond that, you use
"bulb" setting, which is basically holding it down, as you said.  -But of
course you'd never want to actually do that by hand.  You need that remote
shutter release.

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Ken Lucke - 31 Jan 2007 22:07 GMT
> > I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> > longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Not bad for the $135.  Surely Nikon has something simlar.

I've drooled over one of those for some time (I just use the standard
RS-60E3 one), but they have a different connector than my 400D uses...
however, I was just looking over eBay and found a picture of one
(<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260078686399&fromMa
keTrack=true>) that appears to have a mini or sub-mini stereo plug/jack
built right inline to the cable - and as my 400D/RS-60E3 combo uses a
standard stereo mini jack/plug, I could easily build an adapter to plu
into the 400D, as all it does via cable is act like a switch between
the various wires (nothing needed from the camera internals to
function) .... hmmmmm.....

Does yours have that jack/plug in the cable?

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Mark² - 31 Jan 2007 22:36 GMT
>>> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't
>>> meter longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
>
> Does yours have that jack/plug in the cable?

No it doesn't.  That picture looks like some sort of mock-up to me, but
perhaps someone is cobling these together.  I don't see why it couldn't
work...  Canon definitely doesn't sell one like that.  The control unit
pictured is identical, but I've never seen one with a female sub-mini jack
like that.  It's acually a pretty good idea if it's legitimate, though
something seems fishy...

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Ken Lucke - 31 Jan 2007 23:52 GMT
> >>> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't
> >>> meter longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
> No it doesn't.  That picture looks like some sort of mock-up to me, but
> perhaps someone is cobling these together.

The photo looked legit to me, but I didn't examine it with any great
detail, so it's entirely possible.

> I don't see why it couldn't
> work...  Canon definitely doesn't sell one like that.

That's what I thought, as I've looked into them before and they've
never had a picture of one like that.  I thought that this was maybe a
new version.  There's an idea for themm - make the controller, with
various adapters for the tip, like the universal 120V/DC power supplies
you can buy!

> The control unit
> pictured is identical, but I've never seen one with a female sub-mini jack
> like that.  It's acually a pretty good idea if it's legitimate, though
> something seems fishy...

Yeah, the response I got from the seller said that the photo was wrong
("Dear Customer, This is a wrong picture, this plug is not divided in
two pieces.")
"

However, it got me thinking that there's no reason I shouldn't be able
to cut off the funky proprietary connector on the end (saving it to
reattach later when I get a 1Ds Mark 47), strip the wires, and solder
on a mini-stero connector, once I've figured out the wire-->pin pattern
(which, with only 3 leads, should be a snap, considering I already know
the camera side's requirements).  I'd reverse the way that it was/is
shown in that picture, though - the plug would go on the remote's end
and the jack would go on the end with the proprietary connector - to
allow the jury-rigged setup to plug directly into the camera without an
additional adapter.

By yumpin' yimminies, I think I'll give it a go.  I'll let you know how
it turns out.  Maybe I could sell the damn things :^).

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Mark² - 01 Feb 2007 00:18 GMT
>>>>> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't
>>>>> meter longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a
[quoted text clipped - 99 lines]
> By yumpin' yimminies, I think I'll give it a go.  I'll let you know
> how it turns out.

Please do...though I don't personally have a use for one.  Others would.
I really don't see why Canon keeps the sub-mini design.  All of their other
DSLRs use the diffent style...
-It's probably just a carry-over thing... but they've used the other disign
since at least the EOS 3.  I don't know about before that.    Perhaps they
want people like you to see it as another rationale for upgrading to another
body...  Who knows...

>Maybe I could sell the damn things :^).

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Paul Furman - 01 Feb 2007 01:52 GMT
>>I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
>>longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> also got an illuminated LCD, which makes an awful lot of sense considering
> that you'd often use it in dark settings.

Thanks, yeah that does sound useful... it seems like the Nikon unit is
about $165 but maybe I'm remembering wrongly in recoiled fear & loathing.

> Settings/controls include:
> -Time until first frame
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> -Lock shutter switch (so you don't have to actually HOLD it down during
> extremely long exposures)

I believe the third party $40 options mostly have this feature.

> -Adjustment wheel
> -Ilumination button
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> course you'd never want to actually do that by hand.  You need that remote
> shutter release.

It wouldn't be that hard to allow up to 9999 seconds in manual mode.
Hmph. I can understand how the meter might not be able to detect light
levels at longer than 30 seconds though.
Mark² - 01 Feb 2007 02:10 GMT
>>> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't
>>> meter longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
> Hmph. I can understand how the meter might not be able to detect light
> levels at longer than 30 seconds though.

It's cheaper than you think...and dang near identical to the Canon unit.
Here: http://tinyurl.com/2tp56d  (B&H)
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achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 01 Feb 2007 04:02 GMT
On Feb 1, 12:43 am, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
here)@cox..net> wrote:
> > I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> > longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> -Number of frames
> -Time between each frame (interval)

The D200 has an intervalometer built in which does exactly these :)
(also can take n frames, wait s seconds, repeat for m times).

> -Shutter open time (up to 99 hours+)
> -Start/Stop
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> -Adjustment wheel
> -Ilumination button
Mark² - 01 Feb 2007 04:22 GMT
> On Feb 1, 12:43 am, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
> here)@cox..net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> The D200 has an intervalometer built in which does exactly these :)
> (also can take n frames, wait s seconds, repeat for m times).

Then why is Paul asking about one for his D200?

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achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 01 Feb 2007 04:45 GMT
On Feb 1, 7:22 am, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
here)@cox..net> wrote:
> achilleaslazari...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >> Settings/controls include:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Then why is Paul asking about one for his D200?

He's asking for a way to expose for more than 30s, as far as I can
tell; not an intervalometer.
Mark² - 01 Feb 2007 05:10 GMT
> On Feb 1, 7:22 am, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
> here)@cox..net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> He's asking for a way to expose for more than 30s, as far as I can
> tell; not an intervalometer.

Ah.  Right.  :)
Seems rather odd that they coded for all the rest, but couldn't manage to
add long exposures...

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Bart van der Wolf - 01 Feb 2007 12:41 GMT
SNIP
> Seems rather odd that they coded for all the rest, but couldn't
> manage to add long exposures...

Very long exposures will suffer from things like thermal noise
building up at an exponential rate with exposure time. If the subject
allows, it is better to add several shorter exposures.

Bart
acl - 01 Feb 2007 17:33 GMT
> SNIP
>> Seems rather odd that they coded for all the rest, but couldn't manage
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Bart

If each individual shot is underexposed enough, you'll get a worse shot
this way than by taking one long exposure. It depends.
Paul Furman - 01 Feb 2007 20:21 GMT
> On Feb 1, 7:22 am, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
> here)@cox..net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> He's asking for a way to expose for more than 30s, as far as I can
> tell; not an intervalometer.

OK so, now I guess the question is, the older models MC-30 & MC 20 (not
the new MC-36) are also compatible, and I see a used MC-20 for $79...
will that let me set the exposure time? It looks like it will and it has
an LCD for reading in the dark. I'd rather not have to use a stop-watch
to set the time.
http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikons-mc20-versus-mc30.html
Looks like the MC-20 will do what I need & I can use the D200 menus for
any other special tricks.
http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=56&productNr=4650
http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=56&productNr=4660

sh.t
http://www.naturfotograf.com/D200_rev01.html
"Another annoyance, again shared with the D2X, is the conflict arising
when you set the camera for a "B" exposure with Mirror Lockup, and
release the camera through a MC-20 Remote Cable set to "T" (Time). This
combination simply won't work*. Either you have to use a non-timed
release with the MC-20, or avoid using mirror lockup. While this
annoyance may not be a problem to all users, it is a source of
irritation for me, since I often work with this kind of setup and tend
to forget the issue, until I trigger it again. Unspeakable and
unpronounceable Norwegian words, often with the odd Finnish phrase
inserted, then rip apart the darkness around me."

I'm assuming this isn't a problem with the new MC-36 so it looks like
that's what I'll be getting.
Ken Lucke - 01 Feb 2007 20:51 GMT
> http://www.naturfotograf.com/D200_rev01.html
> "Another annoyance, again shared with the D2X, is the conflict arising
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> unpronounceable Norwegian words, often with the odd Finnish phrase
> inserted, then rip apart the darkness around me."

If the trouble is what I think it is, you could possiobly overcome it
by doubling the number of "shutter" releases over the same period of
time - the first "release" of each pair would lock the mirror up, the
second would actually trip the shutter.  This is all a guess, though.

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Paul Furman - 02 Feb 2007 02:20 GMT
>>http://www.naturfotograf.com/D200_rev01.html
>>"Another annoyance, again shared with the D2X, is the conflict arising
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> time - the first "release" of each pair would lock the mirror up, the
> second would actually trip the shutter.  This is all a guess, though.

As I think about it more... anything over 30 seconds will not really
need mirror lockup as the camera will stop jiggling in a second or so
and the impact is negligible.

Indecisive... that's why I don't have a cable release yet.
Dave - 02 Feb 2007 13:18 GMT
>>> http://www.naturfotograf.com/D200_rev01.html
>>> "Another annoyance, again shared with the D2X, is the conflict
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Indecisive... that's why I don't have a cable release yet.
Paul,

The MC-20 will do everything you want it to including the intervalometer
functions. If you are doing a shorter exposure and want to use the
mirror lock up, just push the shutter button first, wait a few seconds
then use the MC-20 for the actual exposure.

I have this unit and have used it with both my D100 and D200 in both of
these ways.

Hope this helps,
Dave
Paul Furman - 07 Feb 2007 00:18 GMT
>>>> http://www.naturfotograf.com/D200_rev01.html
>>>> "Another annoyance, again shared with the D2X, is the conflict
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I have this unit and have used it with both my D100 and D200 in both of
> these ways.

Thanks I just ordered an MC-20. I just hate to pay $130 for what
basically could be $10. This will be good enough and not encourage Nikon
LOL.
Robert Brace - 31 Jan 2007 23:43 GMT
> I know, I need a remote, just can't decide if the expensive Nikon model is
> worth it & not sure if the cheap $40 third-party remotes will give me what
> I need, or an older simpler used nikon remote... I suppose an illuminated
> LCD display could be handy in the dark... speaking of not reading the
> manual, I still can't figure out how to backlight the top LCD on this
> beast... I don't do much shooting in extreme darkness.

Paul:
See Pg. 5,  at the bottom!
Bob
Phil, Non-Squid - 01 Feb 2007 01:14 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> backlight the top LCD on this beast... I don't do much shooting in
> extreme darkness.

Reciprocity failure takes over at long and short exposures for film.  I've
found it to be similarly true for digital.

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achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 01 Feb 2007 04:05 GMT
On Feb 1, 4:14 am, "Phil, Non-Squid" <REMOVEphilME_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Reciprocity failure takes over at long and short exposures for film.  I've
> found it to be similarly true for digital.

You found reciprocity failure with digital? That is, going from 30s to
60s does not double the intensity recorded in raw? That is extremely
strange. How did you find this?
Matt Clara - 01 Feb 2007 02:02 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> manual, I still can't figure out how to backlight the top LCD on this
> beast... I don't do much shooting in extreme darkness.

Have you tried the multiple exposure route?  I used to do that with my F100
and film if I didn't have a cable release.
achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 01 Feb 2007 04:10 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> reading the manual, I still can't figure out how to backlight the top
> LCD on this beast... I don't do much shooting in extreme darkness.

The meter shows "Lo" (in aperture priority, at least), or it gives an
indication but flashes (in manual) below some light level. I don't
think it's about the 30s limit at all, at higher ISOs it'll flash at
you (or say "Lo") at shorter exposures. But yes, the thing can't do
more than 30s timed exposures; most SLRs can't, but I am sure some can
and it would obviously be completely trivial to implement (eg by
entering how long the exposure should be). Given how easy it is to
implement, I infer that Nikon simply wants to sell us the remote. So I
got the "ADIDT" cheapo one. Works perfectly (except when it is plugged
in, the camera goes to sleep and you wake it up by a shutter release
half-press: it then takes a shot instead of just waking up, extremely
irritating when mirror lockup is used). It can be locked pressed (for
arbitrarily long exposures).

Of course, it is also hugely overpriced for what it is, just less so
than Nikon's remote.
achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 01 Feb 2007 13:33 GMT
> illuminated LCD display could be handy in the dark... speaking of not
> reading the manual, I still can't figure out how to backlight the top
> LCD on this beast... I don't do much shooting in extreme darkness.

Forgot to say in my previous response: the on-off switch has on/off
positions and a spring-loaded third position which lights the top LCD
(it's indicated by a lamp).
Paul Furman - 01 Feb 2007 20:02 GMT
>>illuminated LCD display could be handy in the dark... speaking of not
>>reading the manual, I still can't figure out how to backlight the top
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> positions and a spring-loaded third position which lights the top LCD
> (it's indicated by a lamp).

Whew, thanks!
Fred Anonymous - 01 Feb 2007 19:20 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release and
> apparently the only way to exceed 30 seconds is to hold my finger on the
> shutter. Is this common behavior for camera meter systems? Maybe I missed
> something in the manual?

Hello there.

The same was true of many film SLRs. The 30 second maximum could be extended
with accessories.
I've a Canon T90 with a Command Back which would offer exposures longer than
30 seconds.

Regards,  Ian.
Paul Furman - 02 Feb 2007 02:25 GMT
>>I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
>>longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I've a Canon T90 with a Command Back which would offer exposures longer than
> 30 seconds.

Howdy,

That's handy.
The time will come when it's as simple as uploading a bit of linux code
to the camera & customize the menu as we please... not soon enough though.
J. Clarke - 02 Feb 2007 04:37 GMT
>>>I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
>>>longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>The time will come when it's as simple as uploading a bit of linux code
>to the camera & customize the menu as we please... not soon enough though.

You really think that camera manufacturers are going to go open
source?  Dream on.
Paul Furman - 03 Feb 2007 05:29 GMT
>>>>I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
>>>>longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release and
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> You really think that camera manufacturers are going to go open
> source?  Dream on.

I discovered in a recent hard drive crash that I could download a
bootable linux CD & recover my files, totally ignoring any Windows
security login crap. I have no doubt some version of this scenario will
emerge. I'm no linux geek but I was impressed that I could also run my
laptop and access the internet & chat with no HD at all.
J. Clarke - 03 Feb 2007 07:43 GMT
>>>>>I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
>>>>>longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release and
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>emerge. I'm no linux geek but I was impressed that I could also run my
>laptop and access the internet & chat with no HD at all.

That works because the laptop has provision to boot from a CD.  Do
cameras have any provision to boot from an external device?

Oh, and good luck using that method to recover your files from an NTFS
partition with EFS.
Paul Furman - 03 Feb 2007 15:21 GMT
>>>>>>I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
>>>>>>longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release and
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Oh, and good luck using that method to recover your files from an NTFS
> partition with EFS.

Oh yeah this is XP pro with only admin password login, that stuff is
completely defenseless unless you boot into windows. You can also yank
any drive & put it on a USB external & jump right in with windows. NTFS
is absolutely no use for security in that regard. There are also linux
bootable CDs you can use for recovering/changing the windows password.
DD - 03 Feb 2007 07:00 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> reading the manual, I still can't figure out how to backlight the top
> LCD on this beast... I don't do much shooting in extreme darkness.

Doesn't Nikon Capture let you do this? Of course if it does you would
need a laptop in the field which would be a lot more expensive than a
remote! ;)
Paul Furman - 03 Feb 2007 15:28 GMT
>>I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
>>longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> need a laptop in the field which would be a lot more expensive than a
> remote! ;)

Probably but that's $100. I had it for my D70 for use as an
intervalometer for time lapse movies & it was nifty for studio type
work: take a shot, zap it right into photoshop, check the details &
histogram, change settings (in Capture), change lighting, shoot again...
Alan Browne - 03 Feb 2007 15:30 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time.

Most high end SLR cameras meter down to about EV 0 or -1

EV -1 comes to ISO 100 f/4 30 sec.  (Not accounting for reciprocity
failure in film).

Pretty reasonable.

That it won't give an exposure time for longer is most likely because
there simply is not enough light to measure and a display that is s/w
limited to 30 sec and not beyond.

Cheers,
Alan

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Alan Browne - 03 Feb 2007 15:31 GMT
> I've come to notice that doing night shots, my Nikon D200 won't meter
> longer than 30 seconds of exposure time. I don't have a remote release
> and apparently the only way to exceed 30 seconds is to hold my finger on
> the shutter. Is this common behavior for camera meter systems? Maybe I
> missed something in the manual?

... I neglected to add that EV -1 corresponds to a "landscape lit by a
full moon".

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