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Nikon Capture 4.4 & D80

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Bruce - 31 Jan 2007 16:41 GMT
I have been using a D70 with Nikon Capture 4.4 but when the wife bought a
D80 I can't open her NEF photos. There is a suggestion that I have to pay
out for Capture NX. Why? What is the difference between D70 NEF & D80 NEF &
is there another way round this so I can continue to use my current version
of Nikon Capture.

Bruce
Dr Hfuhruhurr - 31 Jan 2007 16:50 GMT
> I have been using a D70 with Nikon Capture 4.4 but when the wife bought a
> D80 I can't open her NEF photos. There is a suggestion that I have to pay
> out for Capture NX. Why? What is the difference between D70 NEF & D80 NEF &
> is there another way round this so I can continue to use my current version
> of Nikon Capture.

Nikon Capture 4.4 doesn't support the D80 RAW output, and there's no
way to update it.
For something free, try adobe lightroom. It's still in beta but I love
it. I use it all the time for my D50 pics.

Doc
C J Campbell - 31 Jan 2007 17:34 GMT
>> I have been using a D70 with Nikon Capture 4.4 but when the wife bought a
>> D80 I can't open her NEF photos. There is a suggestion that I have to pay
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>
> Doc

Lightroom will not be free for much longer. All the beta versions expire on
April 30. Until then, you can buy Lightroom for $199. After that, the price
is $299.

Nikon Capture 4.4.2 will not be updated in the future. It will not run on
Vista. It does not support any camera introduced since the D2hs. It is
obsolete and will not receive any further support from Nikon.

If you want to continue to use Nikon Capture, you will have to upgrade to
Capture NX. This program is not yet Vista compatible, either, but Nikon says
that they will be offering an update for download soon. They are also working
on a Vista compatible version of PictureProject.

The release version of Lightroom apparently has some features that did not
appear in any of the beta versions, such as the Targeted Adjustment Tool
which is very similar to the very cool "control points" feature in Capture
NX.

DxO Pro is less money then Lightroom (unless you buy the version that handles
the D2x) and is very good at rendering NEF files. It not only will render the
distortion on the 10.5mm fish eye, but it will automatically detect the
Nikkor lens used and automatically remove the distortion caused by that
particular lens/camera combination. It is great for mass processing files.

But Capture 4.4 is dead.

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C J Campbell - 31 Jan 2007 17:37 GMT
>> I have been using a D70 with Nikon Capture 4.4 but when the wife bought a
>> D80 I can't open her NEF photos. There is a suggestion that I have to pay
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>
> Doc

I might also mention that Nikon just released a firmware update for the D80.
You can download it from their web site.

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Rebecca Ore - 31 Jan 2007 22:20 GMT
> For something free, try adobe lightroom. It's still in beta but I love
> it. I use it all the time for my D50 pics.

Will the conversion to DNF program work on files from the D80?  That's
free and will stay free if the OP doesn't mind working from DNF files
rather than NEF.  It's on the Adobe download site.

http://www.adobe.com/downloads/
Dr Hfuhruhurr - 01 Feb 2007 16:05 GMT
> In article <1170262220.658811.119...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
> http://www.adobe.com/downloads/

Yes, it does indeed work with the D80 files.

Doc
Dr Hfuhruhurr - 01 Feb 2007 16:08 GMT
> In article <1170262220.658811.119...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
> http://www.adobe.com/downloads/

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3548 to be
precise ;)

Doc
Rudy Benner - 31 Jan 2007 17:35 GMT
>I have been using a D70 with Nikon Capture 4.4 but when the wife bought a
>D80 I can't open her NEF photos. There is a suggestion that I have to pay
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>
> Bruce

Give up now, while you hopefully still have hair. Into the bit-bucket. Get
Adobe Photoshop instead. Wait for CS3 to come out.
Adrian Boliston - 31 Jan 2007 19:12 GMT
>I have been using a D70 with Nikon Capture 4.4 but when the wife bought a
>D80 I can't open her NEF photos. There is a suggestion that I have to pay
>out for Capture NX. Why? What is the difference between D70 NEF & D80 NEF &
>is there another way round this so I can continue to use my current version
>of Nikon Capture.

I had the same problem and bit the bullet and upgraded to NX with £89 the
cheapest online price at the time, less £35 rebate (as I already had Capture
4.4) so it cost me £54 in total but I now much prefer it to the old version.

The rebate offer has now expired but the cheapest online price seems to be
£72 (best froogle price at the moment).

The licence allows you to put it on up to 2 machines so that's only £36 for
each of you to have the latest version.

cheers adrian www.boliston.co.uk
gowanoh - 01 Feb 2007 00:39 GMT
Welcome to planned obsolescence. I do not recall any cogent explanation from
camera manufacturers why they change their raw file formats with new camera
models.
Nikon NX is a very intriguing and worthwhile tool. However it is, in the
final analysis, merely a raw converter.
If you want to get the most out of your D80 I urge you to invest in
Photoshop or Elements, the Adobe converter has been updated for the D80, and
learn to process your raw images appropriately. A standalone raw converter
is not enough.
I had been using NX in conjunction with CS2. However the new Adobe converter
introduced with the CS3 beta has many more processing options.
Bill - 01 Feb 2007 06:09 GMT
> Welcome to planned obsolescence. I do not recall any cogent
> explanation from camera manufacturers why they change their raw file
> formats with new camera models.

They don't, they just change the EXIF info in the image file, and that's
what the RAW software reads to verify the format.

You'll notice that there are several programs available that open newer
camera files without being updated because they don't use the header
info, they simply read the EXIF and the RAW data and don't care about
mode numbers. I haven't examined them, but I'd bet the D80 and D200 file
formats are identical except for the EXIF info.

> Nikon NX is a very intriguing and worthwhile tool. However it is, in
> the final analysis, merely a raw converter.

Actually Capture NX is a conveter and image editor (although it's not
Photoshop). It does more than just convert RAW files, however it's a bit
fussy in Windows Vista, so I've held off buying it until it's
compatible. I'm using a plugin in Photoshop to edit Nikon D80 files
right now, although I'd rather use Capture since it does a better job of
converting the image.
 
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