 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
| PhotoKB HomeDiscussion Groups Digital Photography Digital PhotoDSLR CamerasZLR CamerasPoint & Shoot CamerasFilm Photography 35 mmLarge FormatMedium formatDarkroomFilm and LabsOther EquipmentPhoto Technique Nature PhotographyPeople PhotographyTechnique GeneralGeneral Photo Topics General TopicsAustralian PhotographyUK PhotographyDirectoryPhoto Clubs |
Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / February 2007Boring sunset photos
Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a dime a dozen, at least around here), just playing around: <http://www.nwconcessions.com/sunset> Best pix are on the second page. Nothing done (not even lens corrections/CA control) to these photos yet. All were bracketed (+1/0/-1 EV), so I have some room to play, but only the 0 EVs are shown. You might notice some startling color variation between the Canon 10-22mm lens and the Canon 24-105mm L IS lens, even looking at the same sunset. No filters were used. One LF and a couple of MF cameras were set up right alongside me, as well as a half dozen 35mm's and a passle of P & S's - the owners of most of which of the latter had the usual lack of consideration for anyone else/obliviousness to the world around them, and kept stepping right in front of those of us with tripods set up.  SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a > dime a dozen, at least around here), just playing around: > > <http://www.nwconcessions.com/sunset> Nothing boring about those pictures. They're great. Boring is a constant bombardment by the same stupid cat and dog pictures and the immediate 'You're SO wonderful' responses that invariable follow. A dime a dozen? There is a reason for the plentiful sunset shots. They bring out some ancient response in us, perhaps an awe of our surroundings and a fear of the night to follow. It's a primal thing. mike > > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Nothing boring about those pictures. They're great. Kind words, thanks. > Boring is a constant > bombardment by the same stupid cat and dog pictures and the immediate > 'You're SO wonderful' responses that invariable follow. Well, boring can also be constant repetition of the same theme, but because I've been bound to the local area for the last couple of months due to various reasons (mother's illness, etc.), I haven't had the ability to get out and do much other than extremely local things. Sunsets are one thing that are usually plentiful around here, even in winter (some of my best sunsets are winter sunsets). > A dime a dozen? As a reference to "everybody takes them hereabouts" > There is a reason for the plentiful sunset shots. They > bring out some ancient response in us, perhaps an awe of our > surroundings and a fear of the night to follow. It's a primal thing. Can't argue with that. Or else there's just nothing else to photograph :^) I did get a very rare bunch of photographs of Haystack Rock with snow on it a couple weeks back - I've been here almost 20 years, and even though there has occasionally been snow on the beach, this is the first time I'd ever seen it actually blanketing Haystack. We actually had 5-6 inches of absolute powder right here in seaside, with absolutely no winds, so everything was piled high rather than blown off, like it usually is around here when it actually does snow. SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here > lately, here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > anyone else/obliviousness to the world around them, and kept stepping > right in front of those of us with tripods set up. First two on page 2 look like a tornado's going to form on those rocks. SignaturePhil > > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here > > lately, here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > First two on page 2 look like a tornado's going to form on those rocks. Well, now if I could have gotten that, or at least some lightning, then I'd really have had something! :^) On second thought, seeing as how I was only a couple of hundred feet away from those rocks, then again, maybe not..... SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard Why would anybody put watermarks on photos, that he considers boring ;-) ? You remind me one woman that spends half a day putting on makeup so that at the party she could say: "Oh, the color of my lips ... I never thought abot it, just my natural color ;-) > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > anyone else/obliviousness to the world around them, and kept stepping > right in front of those of us with tripods set up. > Why would anybody put watermarks on photos, that he considers boring ;-) ? > You remind me one woman that spends half a day putting on makeup so that at > the party she could say: > "Oh, the color of my lips ... I never thought abot it, just my natural > color ;-) It's just automatic from my settings in Aperture for them to be watermarked, and I didn't bother to turn it off. Sorry if that offends. SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard >> Why would anybody put watermarks on photos, that he considers boring ;-) >> ? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > watermarked, and I didn't bother to turn it off. Sorry if that > offends. Just wanted to steal your photos and sell them :-) > Sorry if that offends. They don't offend, just get in the way of enjoying your pictures. It's like looking at a beautiful woman with her winter clothes on. How much fun is that? ;-) Anyway, if I peer between the letters it looks like an excellent subject, and you seem to have made the most of it. Well done. Andrew McP In article <memo.20070130064340.3556F@address_disguised.address_disguised>, Andrew MacPherson <andrew.mcp@DELETETHISdsl.pipex.com> wrote: > > Sorry if that offends. > > They don't offend, just get in the way of enjoying your pictures. It's > like looking at a beautiful woman with her winter clothes on. How much > fun is that? ;-) If I'd have remembered, I'd have set the watermark to a lower opacity, but I wouldn't have removed it entirely - just because I have no intention of developing (pun) those pix any further at this point doesn't mean I might not change my mind later, nor does it mean that some unscrupulous others might not want to grab them for themselves. > Anyway, if I peer between the letters it looks like an excellent > subject, and you seem to have made the most of it. Well done. Thanks. I've always been a little tentative in posting my own pictures here, because I see so many other pros, and other much better quality photogs than I am, posting theirs and I feel a little intimidated. :^) SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > Thanks. I've always been a little tentative in posting my own pictures > here, because I see so many other pros, and other much better quality > photogs than I am, posting theirs and I feel a little intimidated. > :^) I know how ya feel. But the way I look at it is..........I took the pic because""""I"""" liked the image and posted a link to it because maybe just maybe some one else might enjoy it too! If they don't oh well, thats ok too! Dave PS. here is a link to one of my boring sunsets http://www.pbase.com/deputydog/image/73356452 > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here > lately, here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > anyone else/obliviousness to the world around them, and kept stepping > right in front of those of us with tripods set up. You've got some beautiful images there. This looks like the same area where I shot some sunsets...but because the sky was disappointingly boring (unlike yours), I decided to shoot some smaller rocks that were close to me. This is what that rendered: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/47884619/original http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/47616297/original The sun was already gone...but my "consolation shots" turned into interesting shadows and textures. Here in San Diego we have beach sunsets, of course, but few rock features, and very little weather. Without weather, sunsets are pretty dang boring. Anyway...nice work, Ken. -Mark² SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson > You've got some beautiful images there. > This looks like the same area where I shot some sunsets...but because the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/47884619/original > http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/47616297/original Different kinds of rock, here. Up close its much rougher and has more brownish tone to it. > The sun was already gone...but my "consolation shots" turned into > interesting shadows and textures. I agree - I really like the almost "flowing" nature of your rocks - thhey almost give the same impression of the long exposure of the water. > Here in San Diego we have beach sunsets, of course, but few rock features, > and very little weather. > Without weather, sunsets are pretty dang boring. Yep. > Anyway...nice work, Ken. Thanks SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard In the many times I've been to Cannon Beach, there are always hordes of photographers there at sunset. > In the many times I've been to Cannon Beach, there are always hordes of > photographers there at sunset. It's better during the winter on weekdays, not so many touroids. As it's only a 12 minute drive plus 5 minute walk from my house, I do a lot of practicing there. I did once stand there for almost two hours waiting for just the right light (I wanted to get planted at my favorite spot before anyone else got there), and right at the appropriate moment, some dumb bubble-headed bimbo in neon pink plastic shoes just kind of wandered into my shot, stood around just gazing at nothing in particular (I thought at the time she was looking for UFOs, as she gazed all around the sky even though there was nothing there), and after my light had gone, finally saw me and my tripod, meandered over to me and said "Oh, are you going to take a picture?" I won't repeat what I said in reply. SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > It's better during the winter on weekdays, not so many touroids. As > it's only a 12 minute drive plus 5 minute walk from my house, I do a > lot of practicing there. I'm up in Aberdeen, WA (about 2 hours away). > I did once stand there for almost two hours waiting for just the right > light (I wanted to get planted at my favorite spot before anyone else [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > gone, finally saw me and my tripod, meandered over to me and said "Oh, > are you going to take a picture?" I'd have cleared my throat loudly and made a remark. > > the sky even though there was nothing there), and after my light had > > gone, finally saw me and my tripod, meandered over to me and said "Oh, > > are you going to take a picture?" > > I'd have cleared my throat loudly and made a remark. If you want the shot, it is your responsibility in a public place to ask others to cooperate with you in a polite manner. If they don't cooperate with you and it's a public place, it wasn't *your* shot, better luck next time. Your right to photograph things in public does not give you the right to rearrange other people's equal right to look at things in public from whatever vantage point they want. > > It's better during the winter on weekdays, not so many touroids. As > > it's only a 12 minute drive plus 5 minute walk from my house, I do a > > lot of practicing there. > > I'm up in Aberdeen, WA (about 2 hours away). Been there many times. My mentor (29 years a pro photog) is from Hoquiam. > > I did once stand there for almost two hours waiting for just the right > > light (I wanted to get planted at my favorite spot before anyone else [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'd have cleared my throat loudly and made a remark. It didn't work. I tried. As in "Hey lady, see the pretty tripod? I'm not here to take pictures of your shoes!" Completely ignored. SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard >> I'd have cleared my throat loudly and made a remark. > > It didn't work. I tried. As in "Hey lady, see the pretty tripod? I'm > not here to take pictures of your shoes!" Completely ignored. HA HA HA. The lady real-world killfiled you. And why not? I would have ignored you as well. > Been there many times. My mentor (29 years a pro photog) is from > Hoquiam. Oh yeah? Who's that? I had a studio here for 16+ years. > It didn't work. I tried. As in "Hey lady, see the pretty tripod? I'm > not here to take pictures of your shoes!" Completely ignored. Aren't there some rocks on the beach you could have thrown? :-) > > Been there many times. My mentor (29 years a pro photog) is from > > Hoquiam. > > Oh yeah? Who's that? I had a studio here for 16+ years. He's no longer there, moved away years ago - but that's where he's from. Gary Clay is his name. <http://www.garyclayphotos.com> > > It didn't work. I tried. As in "Hey lady, see the pretty tripod? I'm > > not here to take pictures of your shoes!" Completely ignored. > > Aren't there some rocks on the beach you could have thrown? :-) Naw, they're either too big to lift, permanently attached, or they're sand. SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > He's no longer there, moved away years ago - but that's where he's > from. Gary Clay is his name. <http://www.garyclayphotos.com> Hmmm...never heard of him. Guess I'm too much of a youngster. :-) > > He's no longer there, moved away years ago - but that's where he's > > from. Gary Clay is his name. <http://www.garyclayphotos.com> > > Hmmm...never heard of him. Guess I'm too much of a youngster. :-) Didn't expect you to - he's not famous, but he's got a lot of knowledge in that bald head of his, and I eke out a little more of it every time we shoot together (usually 2-3 times a month during good weather). SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > Didn't expect you to - he's not famous, but he's got a lot of knowledge > in that bald head of his, and I eke out a little more of it every time > we shoot together (usually 2-3 times a month during good weather). Well, I've lived here all my life (56 years) and knew the regulars at the camera store. I do know some famous photographers and a lot of unfamous ones. My girlfriend has been pestering me to go down the Oregon coast again, maybe in the spring. I'd like to take her down to Newport...visit the cheese factory along the way. A couple years ago when we went to Cannon Beach, we stayed at the Hallmark. Hit the tide just right one evening and walked out onto Haystack Rock. She loved all the little creatures in the tidal pools. > > Didn't expect you to - he's not famous, but he's got a lot of knowledge > > in that bald head of his, and I eke out a little more of it every time [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Hallmark. Hit the tide just right one evening and walked out onto > Haystack Rock. She loved all the little creatures in the tidal pools. The tide pools at Pacific City and at the base of the Yaquina Lighthouse cliff are far better. Give those a shot while you are down there. SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > ... > In the many times I've been to Cannon Beach, there are always hordes of > photographers there at sunset. > ... Am I right to assume that photographers with Nikon cameras are not received too kindly on that particular beach? :) >> ... >> In the many times I've been to Cannon Beach, there are always hordes of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Am I right to assume that photographers with Nikon cameras are not received too > kindly on that particular beach? :) A Nikon is OK, a Nikonn is not. Doug McDonald > >> ... > >> In the many times I've been to Cannon Beach, there are always hordes of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > A Nikon is OK, a Nikonn is not. I'll have to remember that one... :^) SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > > ... > > In the many times I've been to Cannon Beach, there are always hordes of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > too > kindly on that particular beach? :) Different spelling, so they're welcome :^) SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard Beutiful images. P.S. You should try to see how Merge to HDR will look with the bracketed shots. > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > independence. > -- Charles A. Beard > Beutiful images. > > P.S. You should try to see how Merge to HDR will look with the > bracketed shots. That is/was partially my intention, although I bracket almost everything nowadays anyway (even though I hardly ever seem to ever tweak the exposure more than one stop from "centered" on 0 EV). The one thing I have found, though, that HDRs of moving water are not very good, at least the ones I've tried. When I'm really shooting for HDR, I shoot all 13 steps from -2 to +2. Also, the high clouds were moving pretty fast, which is another point that, when present, makes HDR seem to fail for me. I've tried both Photoshop's "Merge to HDR", and a standalone called Photomatix Pro (which I prefer over PS's rendition). Because of the movement of water, I always seem to find that they don't come out looking good. Probably just my technique. :^( > > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > independence. > > -- Charles A. Beard SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard I found that merging in photoshop produces better alligned immages which can be saved in the .hdr format and used in photomatix later. But you are right water is very hard to work with and is usually the most un-natural looking. What camera do you use? > In article <1170166877.545075.102...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > independence. > -- Charles A. Beard- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - > I found that merging in photoshop produces better alligned immages > which can be saved in the .hdr format and used in photomatix later. Hmmm... I'll have to try doing it that way. Thanks for the tip. > But you are right water is very hard to work with and is usually the > most un-natural looking. > > What camera do you use? Canon 400D - those images were made with the 10-22mm lens, and the 24-105mm L IS lens. Tripod, MLU, remote cable. Most of the other EXIF data is on the pages. There's some obvious CA on most of the really wide angle shots (look at the edge of the rocks). That lens (the 10-22mm) does have a problem with CA down in the 10-12mm range, more so in cases shooting "into the light" [as would be expected], but other than that, IMO, it's a gem - I think the only reason that it isn't in the L series is that it's an EF-S lens and Canon doesn't want to start a precedent of calling ANY EF-S lens an "L". Unfortunately, because of several others who were already there (I didn't decide to go until about 45 minutes before sunset), I couldn't move back any more to use a longer focal length without getting all the other photogs who were standing there in frame. > > In article <1170166877.545075.102...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>, > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > movement of water, I always seem to find that they don't come out > > looking good. Probably just my technique. :^( SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard > The one thing I have found, though, that HDRs of moving water are not very > good, at least the ones I've tried. Arrange shutter times so the water is "moving equally" (or close to it) on each frame. This is easier with river/stream stuff than waves at a beach. > When I'm really shooting for HDR, I shoot all 13 steps from -2 to +2. For HDR, you want wide range, not fine steps. Three exposures -6, 0, +6 will ~double the DR of the camera. Finer steps are more noise cancellation than DR extension. > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a > dime a dozen, at least around here), just playing around: If they're a dime a dozen, why bother with the big copyright stamp? Planning on making a buck off them, are you? > > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a > > dime a dozen, at least around here), just playing around: > > If they're a dime a dozen, why bother with the big copyright stamp? The most reasonable -- perhaps the only -- theory is that the thread is more about self-promotion than sunsets. >>> Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here >>> lately, here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The most reasonable -- perhaps the only -- theory is that the thread > is more about self-promotion than sunsets. It's about sharing work. Ken shared because others had shared...and others shared here because Ken did. What's the problem with this? SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson On Jan 30, 12:55 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote: > >> If they're a dime a dozen, why bother with the big copyright stamp? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's about sharing work. Ken shared because others had shared...and others > shared here because Ken did. Eh? When I tell children to "share your toys", I expect that child A uses the toy of child B and/or vice versa. If, however, child A destroys the toy and gives the mess to B, I think it'd be a no-brainer to say that that A has chosen not to "share". But hey, maybe you professionals have created an entirely new meaning of the word. > What's the problem with this? With your operative definition of "share"? Or with self-promotion? I have no problems with either. Why do you object to me pointing them out? > On Jan 30, 12:55 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number > here)@cox..net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to say that that A has chosen not to "share". But hey, maybe you > professionals have created an entirely new meaning of the word. Share also means to offer one's things to another. This can include their work or photography. >> What's the problem with this? > > With your operative definition of "share"? Or with self-promotion? I > have no problems with either. Why do you object to me pointing them > out? I guess I attribute negative implications to "self promotion." SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson > > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a > > dime a dozen, at least around here), just playing around:If they're a dime a dozen, why bother with the big copyright stamp? > Planning on making a buck off them, are you? BTW, meant to say, great shots, not boring at all--and it's ok to make a buck on them (came off sounding kinda harsh when I was just joking around). > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a > dime a dozen, at least around here), just playing around: Nothing boring about a sunset. Nice job! I should be so lucky to have those surroundings. Dave > Well, since everyone else is posting links to their photos here lately, > here's a few boring sunset photos I took tonight (sunset photos are a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > anyone else/obliviousness to the world around them, and kept stepping > right in front of those of us with tripods set up. No matter the weather, time of day, or any other factor, Haystack Rock produces some of the most dramatic photos anywhere. The great sunset you got just make these shots that much better. Thanks for a shot of home. Rob > No matter the weather, time of day, or any other factor, Haystack Rock > produces some of the most dramatic photos anywhere. The great sunset you > got just make these shots that much better. Thanks for a shot of home. > Rob Welcome. You still about these parts, or is that "shot of home" as in "in memory of" :^) SignatureYou need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2009 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.