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D70 ISO Auto

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Bruce - 29 Jan 2007 00:54 GMT
I have being photographing birds & thought I'd try setting the D70 to ISO
Auto. The nominal setting was ISO 400 & on Shutter Priority, but the ISO
didn't seem to alter & it was a very overcast day. Will ISO Auto only work
in certain settings.

Bruce
Sheldon - 29 Jan 2007 01:52 GMT
>I have being photographing birds & thought I'd try setting the D70 to ISO
>Auto. The nominal setting was ISO 400 & on Shutter Priority, but the ISO
>didn't seem to alter & it was a very overcast day. Will ISO Auto only work
>in certain settings.
>
> Bruce

You don't say much about what the camera meter was saying.  If there is
enough light, or should I say enough aperture to get a photo where the ISO
is set, it won't budge.  If the camera says that your photos are
underexposing, and the ISO is not changing then you may have a problem.
Bruce - 29 Jan 2007 12:38 GMT
>>I have being photographing birds & thought I'd try setting the D70 to ISO
>>Auto. The nominal setting was ISO 400 & on Shutter Priority, but the ISO
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>I had it on shutter Priority 1/250 & the lens zoom was at 210mm showing
>f5.6 which is the max aperture.

Bruce
Dimitris M - 29 Jan 2007 19:15 GMT
>>I had it on shutter Priority 1/250 & the lens zoom was at 210mm showing
>>f5.6 which is the max aperture.

You can ajust the minimum ISO and the minimum speed, under that the ISO will
increase automaticaly. Read the manual in p.142-143. It is clearly described
how the auto ISO works.
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Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 30 Jan 2007 11:29 GMT
>I have being photographing birds & thought I'd try setting the D70 to ISO
>Auto. The nominal setting was ISO 400 & on Shutter Priority, but the ISO
>didn't seem to alter & it was a very overcast day. Will ISO Auto only work
>in certain settings.

What was the resulting aperture setting? My guess is unless it was wide
open iso is not going to be adjusted.
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Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 30 Jan 2007 11:31 GMT
>I have being photographing birds & thought I'd try setting the D70 to ISO
>Auto. The nominal setting was ISO 400 & on Shutter Priority, but the ISO
>didn't seem to alter & it was a very overcast day. Will ISO Auto only work
>in certain settings.

How are you determining the iso isn't alter. Be aware that IIRC when using
auto iso the resulting iso value is NOT stored in the exif info.
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Joan - 30 Jan 2007 11:53 GMT
I have to wonder why it isn't stored, seems rather silly.

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: How are you determining the iso isn't alter. Be aware that IIRC when using
: auto iso the resulting iso value is NOT stored in the exif info.
RG - 30 Jan 2007 18:13 GMT
>I have to wonder why it isn't stored, seems rather silly.

The ISO value actually selected by the Auto ISO feature is stored in the
MakerNote section of the EXIF data under the field name of "ISO Speed Used".
At least that's the field name Opanda IEXIF gives it.  IrfanView calls it
"ISO Setting".  This can be verified by seeing ISO values in this field of
the EXIF data that are not manually selectable with the camera control, such
as 220 or 430, and they will always be equal to or greater than the baseline
ISO value set manually with the camera control..  The baseline ISO setting
on the camera is also stored in the MakerNote section under the field name
"ISO Speed Requested" (Opanda) or "ISO 2" (IrfanView).

Unfortunately, many applications cannot access the MakerNote section of the
EXIF data, and in my case, the MakerNote section seems to be stripped away
from the EXIF data after editing the original jpegs in PhotoShop Elements.
So, the auto ISO value used at the time of exposure is indeed originally
stored in the EXIF data by the camera, but you may or may not be able to
view it depending on various circumstances.
Joan - 31 Jan 2007 11:22 GMT
Thanks for the explanation.  I don't use ISO Auto, but I do shoot RAW,
so it would always be available if I did.

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: The ISO value actually selected by the Auto ISO feature is stored in the
: MakerNote section of the EXIF data under the field name of "ISO Speed Used".
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: stored in the EXIF data by the camera, but you may or may not be able to
: view it depending on various circumstances.
Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 31 Jan 2007 21:19 GMT
>>I have to wonder why it isn't stored, seems rather silly.
>
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>stored in the EXIF data by the camera, but you may or may not be able to
>view it depending on various circumstances.

I'll have to look again, but back when I initially got my D70 years ago, I
remember trying autoiso and found Capture could not tell you what the iso
used was. In fact I want to say capture would not even properly fill in the
field for fixed iso when saving to jpeg, IIRC.
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DoN. Nichols - 02 Feb 2007 04:40 GMT
According to RG <rg@nospam.com>:

> >I have to wonder why it isn't stored, seems rather silly.
>
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> stored in the EXIF data by the camera, but you may or may not be able to
> view it depending on various circumstances.

    But -- if you step through the information displayed in the
*camera*, you will find the ISO used information -- in the first screen
of EXIF data.

    Enjoy,
        DoN.

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DoN. Nichols - 02 Feb 2007 04:37 GMT
According to Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) <egruf_usenet2@cox.net>:

> >I have being photographing birds & thought I'd try setting the D70 to ISO
> >Auto. The nominal setting was ISO 400 & on Shutter Priority, but the ISO
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> How are you determining the iso isn't alter. Be aware that IIRC when using
> auto iso the resulting iso value is NOT stored in the exif info.

    Yes it is -- on the D70 at least.  I keep mine set to 200 ISO
floor and auto ISO for most purposes, and here is one of the recent
shots' exif data (with a lot trimmed out):

======================================================================
ExifTool Version Number         : 5.05
File Name                       : dsc_0137.jpg
File Size                       : 3270KB
File Type                       : JPEG
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D70
Orientation                     : Horizontal (normal)
Software                        : Ver.2.00
Date/Time Of Last Modification  : 2007:01:31 17:34:28
Shutter Speed                   : 1/40
Aperture                        : 3.5
Exposure Program                : Program AE

    [ ... ]

ISO Setting                     : 200

    [ ... ]

Focal Length                    : 35.0mm
File System Version             : 2.10
ISO Speed                       : 1600
Quality                         : Fine

    [ ... ]

======================================================================

    Enjoy,
        DoN.
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