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Deputy Dog - 17 Jan 2007 00:17 GMT This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found myself wishing that I had one of my cameras with me. I don't carry one with me but after today and thinking about it I'm gonna start keeping my Nikon 8700 in my car just for occaisions like this evening. And taking the DSLR when I'm image hunting by design. what do the rest of you folks do?
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Greg "_" - 17 Jan 2007 00:29 GMT > This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south > east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Dave Carry my D70 along with my 8x10 and or my 4x5.
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David Dyer-Bennet - 17 Jan 2007 00:45 GMT > This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south > east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > when I'm image hunting by design. > what do the rest of you folks do? Well, I normally use some kind of off-body carry rig, like a shoulder bag or something, for the camera. I don't advocate that approach for a gun :-).
My Fuji F11 lives in my shoulder bag pretty much full-time, so I generally have it with me.
The weather up here (Minnesota), both summer and winter, leaves me not liking the idea of leaving a camera sitting in the car.
Jim Redelfs - 17 Jan 2007 13:04 GMT > The weather up here (Minnesota), both summer and winter, leaves me not > liking the idea of leaving a camera sitting in the car. I assume that temeperature extremes are not nearly as important with DIGITAL as they are with FILM equipment. That is, of course, keeping in mind the liklihood of condensation if bringing the camera into a warm space when it is very cold.
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David Dyer-Bennet - 17 Jan 2007 16:40 GMT >> The weather up here (Minnesota), both summer and winter, leaves me not >> liking the idea of leaving a camera sitting in the car. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > liklihood of condensation if bringing the camera into a warm space when it is > very cold. With film, the summer temperatures made film *definitely* unsafe to leave in the care for any length of time. Winter too I suppose; it gets down to the temperatures where you get film brittleness, static, and lubrication problems with mechanical cameras.
With digital, it may well have a larger component of superstition on my part. It's not nearly so clear what will cause short-term damage or what will cause long-term damage.
darkroommike - 18 Jan 2007 02:04 GMT LCD's in watches have warm weather issues, need to break out my manual again tonight and check operating specs for digital cameras. BTW the other temperature issue is battery performance in cold weather. (Really cold weather, it was 15 below F. here yesterday and 23 below in central Iowa.) darkroommike
>>> The weather up here (Minnesota), both summer and winter, leaves me >>> not liking the idea of leaving a camera sitting in the car. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > part. It's not nearly so clear what will cause short-term damage or > what will cause long-term damage. DoN. Nichols - 19 Jan 2007 03:07 GMT According to David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b@dd-b.net>:
> >> The weather up here (Minnesota), both summer and winter, leaves me not > >> liking the idea of leaving a camera sitting in the car. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > part. It's not nearly so clear what will cause short-term damage or > what will cause long-term damage. The LCD display and control panel may freeze and not display for a while. I don't know whether you can freeze it deeply enough to cause it to expand and break the containment.
I don't know that heat can damage them -- at least within the range which a human can handle.
Batteries can function very poorly when cold, so keep a spare in your pocket (with the cover in place so it is not shorted by coins and keys).
Really hot weather can probably hasten self discharge of the battery.
The grease in lens zoom rings will probably set up in really cold weather. The design of the focus mechanisms in AF cameras and lenses tends to be very light on grease (if any at all) to avoid loading the focus mechanisms.
In really hot weather the zoom ring grease can evaporate and plate out on the lenses -- and on the leaves of the diaphragm, which will cause it to get sticky in more reasonable weather.
In *really* hot weather -- say in a black closed automobile in the sun in areas like Arizona or deep South Texas -- you might get to the temperatures which can cause plastics to wilt a bit.
These are the things which come to mind as possible problems with weather extremes with a DSLR. Most of them (except for LCD display) also apply to the relatively recent battery powered film cameras (e.g. the Nikon N90s to list one which I have).
Enjoy, DoN.
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David Dyer-Bennet - 19 Jan 2007 04:10 GMT > According to David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b@dd-b.net>: >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I don't know that heat can damage them -- at least within the > range which a human can handle. Since humans can die in a closed car in the summer, that's not as reassuring as it might be :-(.
> Batteries can function very poorly when cold, so keep a spare in > your pocket (with the cover in place so it is not shorted by coins and > keys). Check, that would be another problem.
And skipping over many others which look like reasonable worries to me. So far, I'm carrying a P&S in my shoulder bag for those grab shots, rather than trying to leave something in the car.
Bates - 17 Jan 2007 00:55 GMT > This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south > east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Dave I just bought a ultracompact P&S (SD700is) for this very reason - so that I can have it on me most of the time - Just in case. I hate missing great opportunities for a picture and it has happened more than once before.
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Paul J Gans - 19 Jan 2007 18:38 GMT >> This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south >> east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Dave
>I just bought a ultracompact P&S (SD700is) for this very reason - so >that I can have it on me most of the time - Just in case. I hate >missing great opportunities for a picture and it has happened more than >once before. Yup. I've got an SD450 on me at (almost) all times for just that reason.
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DoN. Nichols - 17 Jan 2007 03:52 GMT According to Deputy Dog <dave@(removethis)sibbett.com>:
> This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south > east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > when I'm image hunting by design. > what do the rest of you folks do? I toss the strap for my D70 over my shoulder whenever I leave the house -- with whichever lens is on it at the moment -- usually the 35-135mm, but sometimes the 18-70mm. If I'm expecting particularly low light, I may switch out whichever lens for the 50mm f1.4 instead. On some occasions, I will take a second lens along. If I am going specifically to take photos, I will take along the bag full of lenses -- and wish for a caddy. :-)
Enjoy, DoN.
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C J Campbell - 17 Jan 2007 05:04 GMT > And taking the DSLR > when I'm image hunting by design. > what do the rest of you folks do? I take the D200 with the 18-200mm VR everywhere.
Toby - 17 Jan 2007 08:20 GMT I just got a Fuji F30. Size of a pack of cigs, battery life is excellent, 500-odd exposures on a 2Gb card. Excellent low light performance. I keep it in my pocket at all times.
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> This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south > east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dave Douglas - 17 Jan 2007 08:22 GMT Be like Anika 1980 and just put wheels and an outboard motor on your camera bag!!
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Jim Redelfs - 17 Jan 2007 13:01 GMT > what do the rest of you folks do? My camera, bag and tripod are ALWAYS in my vehicle.
It is for "opportunities" like the following that it is always with me.
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dwight - 18 Jan 2007 01:34 GMT >> what do the rest of you folks do? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/360478505_1d2af0a83c.jpg> Approaching the George Washington Bridge from the New Jersey side, we saw a pickup truck that had made a bad turn and come falling down to the highway from an overpass. Even with two cameras on the rear seat behind me, I had no shot - no place to pull over... That's almost always the way it is for me.
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Toby - 19 Jan 2007 04:45 GMT >> what do the rest of you folks do? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/360478505_1d2af0a83c.jpg> Certainly a unique parking practice--but obviously helpful if your car is longer than the space...
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Bill Funk - 17 Jan 2007 17:41 GMT >what do the rest of you folks do? I bought a Lumix DMC-FX01 just to carry around. For shots like this: http://pippina.us/images/p1000053.jpg (It's cropped quite a bit; I wasn't very close.)
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MadHatter - 17 Jan 2007 23:30 GMT > >what do the rest of you folks do? > > I bought a Lumix DMC-FX01 just to carry around. > For shots like this: > http://pippina.us/images/p1000053.jpg > (It's cropped quite a bit; I wasn't very close.) How is he going to get his coiffure into the car? Hmm, he may have to ride with his head out the window.
Bill Funk - 18 Jan 2007 00:26 GMT >> >what do the rest of you folks do? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >How is he going to get his coiffure into the car? Hmm, he may have to >ride with his head out the window. I really don't know. I was on my way into a grocery store when I saw him, and he sat there talking with some friends for a while, so I went on inside. He was gone when I came out.
But it points out why I bought that camera. I don't carry the 30D with me. I get quite a few quick shots for various reasons. As another example, when in a sportsman's store, I saw a set of dinner plates on sale; I took a quick shot to show my wife (we didn't end up buying them). A salesman saw me, and had no problem when I explained the shot. I just find having a camera in the pocket to be a great thing; I get shots of things no one would believe otherwise. :-)
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madhobbit.geo@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2007 14:12 GMT > This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south > east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > when I'm image hunting by design. > what do the rest of you folks do? I recently purchased a small shoulder bag that hold my DSLR with one lens attached. It makes it easier for me to carry my camera around, so I'm more likely to grab it when I'm going out somewhere. Plus, I normally carry a backpack to work etc., and the shoulder bag fits nicely in the bottom of my pack, so I have my camera with me every day at work. I also have an old point-and-shoot that I carry occasionally, if I really don't have room for the DSLR, but that's not that common.
When I'm actually -planning- on doing some semi-serious work, I take my "real" bag, which fits my flash, other lenses, etc.
FYI: My shoulder bag is a Lowepro Apex 120 AW, which (barely) fits the Rebel 300D with battery grip and 18-55 lens. My main bag is a Lowepro Micro Trekker 200, which basically fits everything I own (except tripod, of course). I'm considering getting a Sliplock lens case to attach to the Apex bag if I want to carry my 75-300, but I'm going to wait and see how often I end up in a situation that that's useful.
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DoN. Nichols - 19 Jan 2007 03:14 GMT According to <madhobbit.geo@yahoo.com>:
> > This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in south > > east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular and I found [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > at work. I also have an old point-and-shoot that I carry occasionally, > if I really don't have room for the DSLR, but that's not that common. Now -- this brings up why I was out of practice using my SLRs for many years. I worked for an Army R&D lab, and it was illegal to bring a camera into the place -- except for specific purposes, with written permission, and the film stayed there to be developed. Since my car was parked inside the security compound, leaving it in the car was not an option, either.
I remember the extremes we had to go through when a co-worker brought a Miranda Sensormat back from a trip abroad for me. He had to leave it at the guard building -- and when we went home, he had to go into there to get it and pass it to me outside the compound.
Enjoy, DoN.
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Mark² - 19 Jan 2007 00:50 GMT > This sounds as if it came out of rec.guns. Today on the way home in > south east PA there was a spectacular sunset and I mean spectacular [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > this evening. And taking the DSLR when I'm image hunting by design. > what do the rest of you folks do? So you feel your point-n-shoot would have done justice to that sunset??
I carry my LowePro Orion bag with me nearly everywhere, and it typically contains the items you see under this image description (the bag holds more than it would appear to hold...): http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/52862308/original -Mark²
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John McWilliams - 19 Jan 2007 01:27 GMT > I carry my LowePro Orion bag with me nearly everywhere, and it typically > contains > the items you see under this image description (the bag holds more than it > would appear to hold...): > http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/52862308/original I'd say you've made maximum use out of that bag! I also take it that the lens hood on the 70-200 is on the lens, but reversed? That's how I carry mine in a Lowe back pack thingie.
Slightly related Q. Where's the tall ship shown in that same Gallery? About half its sails are furled, the other half not.
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Mark² - 19 Jan 2007 01:33 GMT >> I carry my LowePro Orion bag with me nearly everywhere, and it >> typically contains [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Slightly related Q. Where's the tall ship shown in that same Gallery? > About half its sails are furled, the other half not. That's my own, the Mark² and it's "home port" is in San Diego.
...well, OK. It's home port *is* San Diego, but it's the "Star of India."
:) It's the oldest still-sailing iron-sided ship...
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John McWilliams - 19 Jan 2007 01:57 GMT >>> I carry my LowePro Orion bag with me nearly everywhere, and it >>> typically contains [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > That's my own, the Mark² and it's "home port" is in San Diego. << Snipped bits out >>
> ....well, OK. It's home port *is* San Diego, but it's the "Star of India." > :) > It's the oldest still-sailing iron-sided ship... Ah, yes, a beauty. Toured her dockside about ten years ago, but didn't know she still sails.
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Douglas - 19 Jan 2007 02:09 GMT Is there a camera in that bag too?
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Mark² - 19 Jan 2007 07:03 GMT > Is there a camera in that bag too? ;) Top o' the list! It sounds like a lot...but...it IS a lot. :)
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