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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / January 2007

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Vibration/shake control lenses?

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3Putt from South Carolina - 04 Jan 2007 22:41 GMT
Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews for this
new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?
Stephen M. Dunn - 04 Jan 2007 23:54 GMT
$Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews for this
$new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?

  The only third-party lens with IS/VR capabilities is Sigma's 80-400.

  Canon also makes several image-stabilized lenses covering part or all
of this range, but unless you're asking this in advance of buying a
camera system, then you'd already have some Nikon equipment and so
a Canon lens wouldn't do you much good, just as the Nikkor 70-300
wouldn't do much good for someone who already has Canon equipment.
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Savageduck - 05 Jan 2007 04:25 GMT
> $Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews
> for this $new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?
>    The only third-party lens with IS/VR capabilities is Sigma's 80-400.

If you need the extra 100 mm over the 70-300 VR, the Sigma 80-400 is an
OK lens. The big, and I mean BIG and heavy problem with the Sigma is
weight. Also the Sigma IS/VR system A or B has to be set for the
shooting environment, either panning or camera shake. The 70-300 VR is
a more comfortable carry lens with newer VR technology and if you need
the extra stretch add a TC14E (1.4X)

Leonard
Paul Furman - 05 Jan 2007 06:50 GMT
> Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews for this
> new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?

How about a 70-200/2.8 VR with a 1.4x TC?
Savageduck - 05 Jan 2007 07:30 GMT
>> Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews
>> for this new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?
>
> How about a 70-200/2.8 VR with a 1.4x TC?

OK! That works for me. Speed when you need it and stretch when you need it.
Leonard
tomm42 - 05 Jan 2007 15:26 GMT
> > Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews for this
> > new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?How about a 70-200/2.8 VR with a 1.4x TC?

Ok compare a consumer lens to one of Nikon's top lenses, at 3X+ the
price. The 70-300 VR has good reviews, hope fully it will fill the hole
in Nikons line up, a portable lens in this focal length. The 70-200 is
one big heavy lens.

Tom
per - 07 Jan 2007 17:49 GMT
> Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews for
> this new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?
The Sony A100 DSLR can compete with such vibration control, using any lens.
/per
Alan Browne - 07 Jan 2007 18:21 GMT
>>Anything comparable to the new Nikor 70-300mm VR lens?  the reviews for
>>this new lens looks good, but what manufacturers can compete?
>
> The Sony A100 DSLR can compete with such vibration control, using any lens.
> /per

Don't be over promoting.  A/S has its benefits (almost all lenses) and
shortcomings (not as much range in effective shake control over long
focal lenghts; not as much range as most IS/VR solutions).

I'm happy to have it as my expenive lenses predate Minolta's efforts in
this regard.  Had they gone to an in-lens solution I would have caught
without a solution.

IAC I don't (few do) believe a Nikon shooter will abandon his system for
the benefits of A/S.

Cheers,
Alan

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 07 Jan 2007 18:36 GMT
> Don't be over promoting.  A/S has its benefits (almost all lenses) and
> shortcomings (not as much range in effective shake control over long
> focal lenghts; not as much range as most IS/VR solutions).

Don't forget to mention that IS/VR is totally and utterly useless at focal
lengths of 50mm and wider.

Rita
David J Taylor - 07 Jan 2007 18:52 GMT
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> Don't forget to mention that IS/VR is totally and utterly useless at
> focal lengths of 50mm and wider.

For you, perhaps, but not necessarily for others.

David
Alan Browne - 07 Jan 2007 19:02 GMT
>> Don't be over promoting.  A/S has its benefits (almost all lenses) and
>> shortcomings (not as much range in effective shake control over long
>> focal lenghts; not as much range as most IS/VR solutions).
>
> Don't forget to mention that IS/VR is totally and utterly useless at
> focal lengths of 50mm and wider.

Horsefeathers.

200mm: http://www.aliasimages.com/KM7D_AS_Test.htm#ShakeTable200

And the above is A-S.  I'd expect IS/VR to do 1/2 to 1 stop better.

Cheers,
Alan

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 07 Jan 2007 19:13 GMT
>> Don't forget to mention that IS/VR is totally and utterly useless at
>> focal lengths of 50mm and wider.
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>
> And the above is A-S.  I'd expect IS/VR to do 1/2 to 1 stop better.

Hhmm!  Since when did an 80-200mm lens become a wide-angle lens?  Do they
sell an adapter that allows an 80-200 to do 17-50?  If so, slap it on there
and see how well IS/VR works at these focal lengths.

Rita
Alan Browne - 13 Jan 2007 20:58 GMT
>>> Don't forget to mention that IS/VR is totally and utterly useless at
>>> focal lengths of 50mm and wider.
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> sell an adapter that allows an 80-200 to do 17-50?  If so, slap it on there
> and see how well IS/VR works at these focal lengths.

Sorry, misread that as "and longer".

You owed me a few misreads in any case!@

BUT: VR, IS, A-S is useful regardless of how wide the shot is.

Cheers,
Alan

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Neil Harrington - 10 Jan 2007 04:39 GMT
>> Don't be over promoting.  A/S has its benefits (almost all lenses) and
>> shortcomings (not as much range in effective shake control over long
>> focal lenghts; not as much range as most IS/VR solutions).
>
> Don't forget to mention that IS/VR is totally and utterly useless at focal
> lengths of 50mm and wider.

Not true, Rita. My Minolta A200's AS has been extremely useful right down to
the 28mm (equiv.) end -- in low-light situations where I needed a wide angle
and wanted the natural light rather than flash.

Neil
 
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