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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / December 2004GROUP: Opinions and info regarding PENTAX IST D/DS and Kit lens - Ken
Hello group.......... Wondering if anyone has used; and their impressions, and viewpoints (i've read the reveiws which seem positive). I'm Particulary interested in compatibility with older pentax lens. I'must say i'm not terribly familiar with pentax series lenses. cheers Ken >Hello group.......... > >Wondering if anyone has used; and their impressions, and viewpoints >(i've read the reveiws which seem positive). I'm Particulary >interested in compatibility with older pentax lens. I'must say i'm not >terribly familiar with pentax series lenses. I've had a *ist-D for over a year now. With KA-mount lenses or later (basically anything since 1983) you get full capability (subject to lens features; you don't magically get auto-focus with non-AF lenses :-), with one exception; there are no power contacts for the KAF-2 power zoom lenses, so you are limited to manual zoom mode. With the older K-mount lenses (without an A aperture setting) you are restricted to what Pentax call hyper-manual mode. This is pretty much manual exposure mode, but with the ability to have the camera select what it considers to be the 'correct' shutter speed at the touch of a single button. In my case there wasn't really much of a choice what camera to buy; I've got several very nice Pentax lenses. But while I was waiting for Pentax to come up with a digital body I used a few of the other DSLRs: a Nikon D1, a D100, and a Canon EOS-10D. The D1 stands out from the others; it's built to a different standard. Apart from that, though, the others (and the *ist-D) are roughly comparable; there's not enough difference for the body to be the deciding factor when choosing a manufacturer. Pretty much what i was looking for. Thanks for the info John, i'll relay this to my friend who has pentax glass and wanted to do digital. I suspect it will be the ist ds actually. rgds Ken >>Hello group.......... >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >are roughly comparable; there's not enough difference for the >body to be the deciding factor when choosing a manufacturer. > Pretty much what i was looking for. Thanks for the info John, i'll > relay this to my friend who has pentax glass and wanted to do > digital. I suspect it will be the ist ds actually. According to Pentax Sweden, the ist DS will not have hyper manual mode. So - the old K lenses will be slightly more cumbersome to use. /Roland >> Pretty much what i was looking for. Thanks for the info John, i'll >> relay this to my friend who has pentax glass and wanted to do [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >manual mode. So - the old K lenses will be slightly more >cumbersome to use. According to people who actually have the camera in their hand, though, it behaves exactly as I described with the older K lenses. No more (or less) cumbersome with old lenses than the *ist-D. The absence of the full hyper-manual mode just means that you don't get that option with "A" or later lenses. If you want manual control available with any lens, you need the *ist-D. > According to people who actually have the camera in their hand, > though, it behaves exactly as I described with the older K lenses. > No more (or less) cumbersome with old lenses than the *ist-D. OK. > The absence of the full hyper-manual mode just means that you > don't get that option with "A" or later lenses. OK. This sounds nice. I don't want hyper manual with newer lenses. > If you want > manual control available with any lens, you need the *ist-D. What lenses does not support manual control on DS but does so on D? /Roland >> According to people who actually have the camera in their hand, >> though, it behaves exactly as I described with the older K lenses. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >What lenses does not support manual control on DS but does so on D? A or later lenses (as noted above). You can get the restricted hyper-manual mode by moving the lens off the "A" position, but you don't get the open-aperture live metering you get with the true hyper-manual mode on the *ist-D. And, of course, if you have one of the FA-J lenses without an aperture control ring on the lens you don't even have that option - those lenses act as if they are permanently in the "A" position. I definitely *do* want hyper-manual available, even with newer lenses; there are times when I want to take full control of just what the camera is doing. The two most recent examples were: 1) when I was shooting in low light, and had to juggle settings to keep the shutter speed in the hand-holdable range; it's a lot easier to set shutter and aperture, and just keep an eye on the exposure bar graph in the viewfinder 2) shooting panormas, where I want to keep the same exposure for multiple frames which will later be stitched together. A few examples can be seen at <http://jfwaf.com/Panoramas/ johnf@panix.com (John Francis) wrote in news:covnrb$3r8$1 @panix5.panix.com: >>> If you want >>> manual control available with any lens, you need the *ist-D. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > for multiple frames which will later be stitched together. > A few examples can be seen at <http://jfwaf.com/Panoramas/> Ehem? I must miss something here. Is the *ist DS totally automatic for modern lenses. No manual settings at all? Sounds weird. Either i misunderstand you or you must be mistaken. Or? BTW -still according to Pentax's Swedish web site, it has manual settings. All other would be strange for an SLR. /Roland >Ehem? I must miss something here. Is the *ist DS totally automatic >for modern lenses. No manual settings at all? Sounds weird. >Either i misunderstand you or you must be mistaken. Or? .. or I lost a paragraph during editing, where I commented about the awkwardness of using the *ist-DS in manual mode (with a single control wheel) as compared to the two wheels of the *ist-D, and suggested that the *ist-DS was not a good choice for someone who frequently used manual exposure modes. > .. or I lost a paragraph during editing, where I commented > about the awkwardness of using the *ist-DS in manual mode > (with a single control wheel) as compared to the two wheels > of the *ist-D, and suggested that the *ist-DS was not a good > choice for someone who frequently used manual exposure modes. Ahhhh! Comprende. Then I have to take a look then at an actual camera before I buy one. /Roland > Hello group.......... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ken |
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