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Recycle THIS - 22 Dec 2006 14:48 GMT Hi all.
I recently purchased a 50mm 1.8 lens for my Canon 350 for use at low light levels, and I am very happy with it.
I now need something with similar performance, but offering me some zoom as well.
I already have the kit 18-55mm, the 50mm and a Sigma 80-300mm telephoto, so I guess I need something like a 28-135mm to 'fill the gap' as it were?
What are the opinions of the Canon 28-135mm IS USM lens in these parts?
TIA
Adrian Boliston - 22 Dec 2006 16:22 GMT > Hi all. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What are the opinions of the Canon 28-135mm IS USM lens in these parts? Have you looked at the 85mm f2.8 (£236) or the 100mm f2.0 (£264). If you like the 50mm 1.8 then you will probably like these 2 primes, which are going to offer much better quailty and low light ability than a consumer grade zoom like the 28-135. If you are set on a zoom then perhaps splash out on the 28-105 f4.0 that everyone seems to rave about (£651).
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Adrian Boliston - 22 Dec 2006 16:27 GMT sorry I meant 24-105 Duh!
U-Know-Who - 23 Dec 2006 00:18 GMT > Hi all. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > TIA I love mine. It's my primary lens, and the sharpness is good, not stellar, but very good. With my wide angle Tokina 12-24 and my Canon 70-300 IS, I cover most bases outdoors. I also have the 50 1.8 and the kit. And, for those that bash the kit lens, screw a macro adapter on the front and it becomes a zoom macro that's hard to beat! Of course, it's still the kit lens that I don't care much for in normal usage, but YMMV.
t_rust - 23 Dec 2006 05:14 GMT > I recently purchased a 50mm 1.8 lens for my Canon 350 for use at low light > levels, and I am very happy with it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What are the opinions of the Canon 28-135mm IS USM lens in these parts? Depends what you want to shoot.
1) Replace the kit lens. The 28-135 is good. But with your current lenses the EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM might fit better. Be aware that it is an EF-S!
2) The primes mentioned above (85, 100) are good, but you want a zoom to extent your coverage right? For an wide-angle lens you might want to look at Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20 or Tamron 11-18
Feel free to have a look at my blog. I recently published a summary on lens choices for Canon: http://tr-photo-blog.blogspot.com/2006/12/what-lenses-glass-to-choose-for-canon.html
Regards, Thorsten
Stephen M. Dunn - 23 Dec 2006 17:38 GMT $Recycle THIS wrote: $> I recently purchased a 50mm 1.8 lens for my Canon 350 for use at low light $> levels, and I am very happy with it. $> $> I already have the kit 18-55mm, the 50mm and a Sigma 80-300mm telephoto, so $> I guess I need something like a 28-135mm to 'fill the gap' as it were? $> $> What are the opinions of the Canon 28-135mm IS USM lens in these parts? [...] $1) Replace the kit lens. The 28-135 is good. But with your current $lenses the EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM might fit better. Be aware that $it is an EF-S!
One problem with replacing the kit lens with the 28-135 is that it leaves you without a wide angle lens. On a full-frame/film body, the 28-135 is a wide-to-tele zoom; on a 1.6-crop body, it's a normal-to-tele zoom. In the 28-135's favour is that it's an above-average consumer zoom, arguably the best (and certainly among the best) consumer zooms Canon makes.
The 17-85 is essentially the digital equivalent. It offers a virtually identical range of angles of view to what the 28-135 does on a full-frame body, similar optical quality, similar build quality, similar mechanics, and IS (but the 17-85 has a newer and even more effective generation of IS). As t_rust mentioned above, it's EF-S, so it only works on 1.6-crop bodies. That's a problem for some people who plan on upgrading to a 1.3-crop or full-frame body, or those who worry that it will result in lower resale value should they want to sell it at a later date. If you see yourself sticking with this lens on a 1.6-crop body, on the other hand, it's not a concern.
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Gautam Majumdar - 23 Dec 2006 09:07 GMT > Hi all. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > TIA Not sure whether the zoom range or the speed (biggest aperture) is more important to you. There are few zooms that are really fast. You may look at Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 EX DG (about UKP 210). If the speed is not that important then Sigma 28-70mm f2.8-4 DG costs only about UKP 75. But you have to accept a lower image quality. Another possibility is Sigma 18-125 F3.5-5.6 with a better range but not a fast lens by any means.
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Recycle THIS - 23 Dec 2006 14:14 GMT Thanks to all for the helpful advice and recommendations.
Thorsten - magnificent work!
Not decided completely yet which way to go, but I will be looking for a lens that's suitable for concert work, where flash is verboten, so a wide aperture is one of my major concerns, with image stabilisation if possible.
So it's looking like Canon will win the day, unless there is another manufacturer that offers IS?
Again, thanks for all the great advice so far.
Aad - 23 Dec 2006 16:35 GMT > Thanks to all for the helpful advice and recommendations. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Again, thanks for all the great advice so far. IS is of no use for concerts. Have'nt you noticed that these people move around a lot? (like they have ADHD sometimes) IS is only usefull for static subjects. If you want a zoom with large aperture and the sharpnes of a prime? There can be only one! EF 24-70 F2,8 USM It also fills your 'gap' very nice. kr Aad
Stephen M. Dunn - 23 Dec 2006 18:06 GMT $Not decided completely yet which way to go, but I will be looking for a lens $that's suitable for concert work, where flash is verboten, so a wide $aperture is one of my major concerns, with image stabilisation if possible. $ $So it's looking like Canon will win the day, unless there is another $manufacturer that offers IS?
There is only one third-party image-stabilized lens available in the Canon EF mount, and that's the Sigma 80-400. So yup, you're looking for a Canon lens here.
Another lens you might consider, given a desire for a lens which is fast and has IS, is the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM. It's supposed to be very good optically; its use of aspherical elements and low-dispersion glass is similar to that of the L-series wide-angle zooms, and tests and reviews of it show that its optical quality is what you'd expect from those technologies. It lacks the letter L and magical red ring because it's an EF-S lens and can't be mounted on pro bodies (and in turn, since it's not an L, it isn't dust- and water-resistant, and its build quality is that of a high-end consumer lens, not an L lens).
But one thing to keep in mind given your stated use is that IS doesn't help if the subject is moving. In fact, rather the opposite. IS lets you get steady handheld shots while using *slower* shutter speeds than you could without it. A slower shutter speed gives the subject more time to move around, causing them to get blurry, so you might get nice, sharp pictures of the stage with blurred performers, unless they're not moving while you take the picture.
Drop by http://www.photo.net/learn/concerts/mirarchi/concer_i for a tutorial on concert photography. It's from the old film days, so there are some technical issues which will differ (such as the usability of high ISOs on modern DSLRs vs. film, and of course the difference in focal lengths due to the crop factor). But I'd particularly draw your attention to the discussion of fast zooms vs. primes; the article's author does a good job of explaining why both have their places in concert photography.
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DAVE PRICE - 23 Dec 2006 16:24 GMT > Not sure whether the zoom range or the speed (biggest aperture) is more > important to you. There are few zooms that are really fast. You may look > at Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 EX DG (about UKP 210). If the speed is not that > important then Sigma 28-70mm f2.8-4 DG costs only about UKP 75. But you > have to accept a lower image quality. Another possibility is Sigma 18-125 > F3.5-5.6 with a better range but not a fast lens by any means. Hi - have you any experience with the Sigma 18-125 . I'm told that one is in my Xmas stocking this year :-)
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Gautam Majumdar - 23 Dec 2006 19:14 GMT >> Not sure whether the zoom range or the speed (biggest aperture) is more >> important to you. There are few zooms that are really fast. You may [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Hi - have you any experience with the Sigma 18-125 . I'm told that > one is in my Xmas stocking this year :-) It is my normal daytime walkaround lens. Some copies apparently have front focusing problem but I have not experienced that. At widest focal length slight double distortion (barrel in the middle and pincushion at the edges) is noticeable if you test it critically. In practical use, I have never noticed it.
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DAVE PRICE - 23 Dec 2006 19:28 GMT >> Hi - have you any experience with the Sigma 18-125 . I'm told that >> one is in my Xmas stocking this year :-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > edges) is noticeable if you test it critically. In practical use, I have > never noticed it.
> Gautam Thanks can't wait for the 25th
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