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Sigma "It's the end, the END!!!"

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RichA - 07 Dec 2006 17:30 GMT
Dear Customers,

I appreciate your strong and kind support for our products.

At photokina 2006, we introduced our next generation digital SLR
camera, the Sigma SD14. At the time, we made it clear that we would
begin shipping production cameras late November 2006. Soon thereafter,
we revised our release plan from late November to the middle of
December.

Of course we continued our development work on the SD14 in preparation
for production and shipping. During this process, we found one issue
that occurred occasionally and only under certain circumstances.
Initially, we felt that this could be solved with a programming or
processing solution. However, after careful investigation and many
attempts at a solution, we have come to the conclusion that we need to
make a hardware change to fix this issue completely.

All of us at Sigma regret very much that this will result in a delay in
the availability of the SD14 until late February or early March 2007.
Retail sales should start in mid-March.

We deeply and sincerely apologize to all of our current and future
Sigma users for this delay. We are confident that the SD14 will be an
important product for photographers. The results we have produced thus
far have been outstanding. However, we feel that we would not be
serving our community of present and prospective photographers well by
delivering a camera with a known issue. We ask for your understanding.
For our part, we will do our best to fix this problem and begin
delivery of the SD14 as soon as possible.

The amount of interest shown in our digital imaging products at
photokina 2006 and thereafter was very encouraging. Please note that
the delay of the SD14 will not have a significant impact on the
development work on other cameras or lenses. This work continues and we
will announce delivery plans as they become firm.

At this time, I would like to once again express my gratitude to all of
our Sigma customers for their support. Thank you very much for your
understanding and we appreciate your patience in waiting for the SD14.
We are confident it will be worth the wait.

Best regards,

Kazuto Yamaki
Chief Operating Officer
Sigma Corporation
Arnor Baldvinsson - 07 Dec 2006 18:47 GMT
Hi,
Why not just post the link to the press release on sigmaphoto.com -
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/news/news.asp?nID=3284

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Arnor Baldvinsson
San Antonio, Texas

John Bean - 07 Dec 2006 19:06 GMT
>Hi,
>Why not just post the link to the press release on sigmaphoto.com -
>http://www.sigmaphoto.com/news/news.asp?nID=3284

Because RichA is a clueless fuckwit.

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John Bean

George K - 07 Dec 2006 19:29 GMT
Posted like a true gentleman.

RichA is trying to make this more personal then just a cold link and he
has more social skills and language skills than an avatar or troll.

> >Hi,
> >Why not just post the link to the press release on sigmaphoto.com -
> >http://www.sigmaphoto.com/news/news.asp?nID=3284
>
> Because RichA is a clueless fuckwit.
Charles Schuler - 07 Dec 2006 23:15 GMT
> Posted like a true gentleman.
>
> RichA is trying to make this more personal then just a cold link and he
> has more social skills and language skills than an avatar or troll.

Hmmm ... not so sure about your post.  His social skills seem to be limited
to sensationalizing, distortion and exaggeration.  His language skills are
pedestrian.  He hates all things plastic and continues to publicly embarrass
himself with this particular phobia.

Are you his brother-in-law?
Charles Schuler - 07 Dec 2006 23:29 GMT
gmail.com is the big clue here
Charles Schuler - 07 Dec 2006 23:34 GMT
Rich morphs with the breeze.  He is his own shill.

Hey Rich!  Happy Holidays!
RichA - 08 Dec 2006 00:07 GMT
> Rich morphs with the breeze.  He is his own shill.
>
> Hey Rich!  Happy Holidays!

P.C. speak.
G.T. - 08 Dec 2006 01:52 GMT
> Posted like a true gentleman.
>
> RichA is trying to make this more personal then just a cold link and he
> has more social skills and language skills than an avatar or troll.

You're quite funny because "It's the end, the END!!!" sure is troll writing
to me.

Greg
Wm. Harris - 07 Dec 2006 23:35 GMT
>>Hi,
>>Why not just post the link to the press release on sigmaphoto.com -
>>http://www.sigmaphoto.com/news/news.asp?nID=3284
>
> Because RichA is a clueless fuckwit.

You have just insulted clueless fuckwits everywhere.

W. Harris
John Bean - 08 Dec 2006 09:48 GMT
>>>Hi,
>>>Why not just post the link to the press release on sigmaphoto.com -
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You have just insulted clueless fuckwits everywhere.

You may have a point.

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John Bean

RichA - 07 Dec 2006 22:46 GMT
> Hi,
> Why not just post the link to the press release on sigmaphoto.com -
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Arnor Baldvinsson
> San Antonio, Texas

I saw in on dpreview not Sigma's site.
Charles Schuler - 07 Dec 2006 23:46 GMT
> Dear Customers,
>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> Chief Operating Officer
> Sigma Corporation

Not a good idea to post privileged quotations without explicit permission.
One can get into deep doo-doo with this behavior.
RichA - 08 Dec 2006 00:10 GMT
> > Dear Customers,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> Not a good idea to post privileged quotations without explicit permission.
> One can get into deep doo-doo with this behavior.

You mean like how you tried to get Kodak after me for mentioning them
in connection with the soon-to-be discontinued Olympus E-400? Yeah,
they made the CCD as it turns out, not Panasonic.  But feel free to
report me to Dpreview....who got it from Sigma....who publically posted
it.  Shucks!  Another attempt by you to be the octagenarian Eddie
Haskell shot down!
Charles Schuler - 08 Dec 2006 21:48 GMT
> You mean like how you tried to get Kodak after me for mentioning them
> in connection with the soon-to-be discontinued Olympus E-400?

You are once again, absolutely wrong and have made a statement that I find
offensive.  If you go back and re-read that thread it you will find that it
was another individual who alluded to having a Kodak contact and possibly
persuing the matter.

Please do not do this again.
RichA - 08 Dec 2006 23:09 GMT
> > You mean like how you tried to get Kodak after me for mentioning them
> > in connection with the soon-to-be discontinued Olympus E-400?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Please do not do this again.

You are right, you didn't do it.  But you SURE joined in.
Guess what?  I was RIGHT and you and the (now long gone loser) were
WRONG.

1.  Kodak made the sensor.
2.  Something went wrong.
3.  Only a few thousand E-400s were made.
4.  They only had enough (barely) for Europe because of this.
5.  The camera is going to be replaced by Mar with a new model.

Here's some memories for you:

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> I know that Americans believe it's a God-given right to obtain money
> via lawsuits.  All I see on New York local TV are ads by shysters
> hocking lawsuit potential for everything from car accidents to drug
> trials that went bad.  Somehow, I didn't realize the English could be
> as disgusting.

Given that you live across a single border, you know surprisingly
little
about your southern neighbor.  I have been to Canada numerous times and
know
that you are very atypical.  I really like the Canadians that I have
met and
respect them and am glad to have them as northern neighbors.  (Bunches
of
them here in SW FL, by the way, but they are of course senile old
farts,
which you disdain).

You do not represent your country at all and, in fact, you do not
represent
the human race (at least the part which contributes something ...
anything).

Your recent Kodak slam (totally erroneous, by the way) should get very
interesting.  Rumor has it that you might be in deep sh.t.  New York
lawyers
are among the most vicious (and most skilled) in the world and Kodak
has
several on retainer to deal with issues such as you have raised.  Good
luck
... you are going to need it!
Charles Schuler - 09 Dec 2006 00:16 GMT
>> > You mean like how you tried to get Kodak after me for mentioning them
>> > in connection with the soon-to-be discontinued Olympus E-400?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> You are right, you didn't do it.  But you SURE joined in.

Yeah, Dr. Anderson, I jumped on your rotting carcass because it was smelling
up the newsgroup.  Hey, go find a career in journalism where adolescent
emotion trumps facts.  I don't like your ilk there or here.

Octogenarian indeed!  I could have my left cranial hemisphere surgically
removed and still easily whip your vastly limited intellect.

In case you have not noticed, I do respond civilly to your posts that are
reasonable and will continue to do so.  As for the others (sadly, most of
them), I will continue to take you to task because that is my mission.
Usenet should be a sane and respectable source of information.
Neil Harrington - 08 Dec 2006 02:05 GMT
>> Dear Customers,

[ . . . ]

>> Best regards,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Not a good idea to post privileged quotations without explicit permission.
> One can get into deep doo-doo with this behavior.

How is that a "privileged" communication? It sure looks like a public
release, since it's addressed to "Dear Customers."

Neil
Peter A. Stavrakoglou - 08 Dec 2006 00:05 GMT
> Dear Customers,
<snip>

Yes it's the end.  Rather than release a faulty camera like Leica, Sigma has
chosen to resolve the fault before release.  Sound like the end to me.
nospam - 08 Dec 2006 00:48 GMT
> Rather than release a faulty camera like Leica, Sigma has
> chosen to resolve the fault before release.  

so they're switching to bayer?  excellent news!  :)
Randall Ainsworth - 08 Dec 2006 02:50 GMT
> Yes it's the end.  Rather than release a faulty camera like Leica, Sigma has
> chosen to resolve the fault before release.  Sound like the end to me.

If it carries the Sigma logo, you know that it's overpriced and
underperforming.
Randall Ainsworth - 08 Dec 2006 02:48 GMT
> All of us at Sigma regret very much that this will result in a delay in
> the availability of the SD14 until late February or early March 2007.
> Retail sales should start in mid-March.

And the loss to the photographic world is what???

It just means that losers who would waste their money on the thing will
get to keep their hard-earned dollars a little while longer.
Adrian - 08 Dec 2006 03:28 GMT
>> All of us at Sigma regret very much that this will result in a delay in
>> the availability of the SD14 until late February or early March 2007.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>It just means that losers who would waste their money on the thing will
>get to keep their hard-earned dollars a little while longer.

And spend it on a couple of casks of Bud!
 
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