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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / December 2006Dpreview and the lastest (ho-hum) 6 megapixel Pentax
I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the DSLRs is so similar, why review them at all, unless you are going to take a REAL position and say, "this camera has a definite edge over the competition" or "This camera falls short so we cannot give it a high recommendation." Are the cameras really all so similar the reviewers simply cannot differentiate amongst them? Instead, we get this: "Our side-by-side comparison images show that there's really no advantage going from six to eight megapixels, jump to ten megapixels and you will get more detail although you do have to ask yourself how many times that extra detail will be visible in your final output (have you ever printed larger than A3, do you need to?)." Is this designed to be of service to the reader or just to help sell the product to a pixel-hungry crowd? >I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" >on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the Trolling again?  SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net > Is this designed to be of service to the reader or just to help sell > the product to a pixel-hungry crowd? Phil is making money. What part of this do you not understand? > > Is this designed to be of service to the reader or just to help sell > > the product to a pixel-hungry crowd? > > Phil is making money. What part of this do you not understand? I think that pretty much answers my question. I think they need to slap "highly recommended" on a telephone pole and then ram it up your 2 brain cell a.s! LJC > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" > on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Is this designed to be of service to the reader or just to help sell > the product to a pixel-hungry crowd? > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" > on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > recommendation." Are the cameras really all so similar the reviewers > simply cannot differentiate amongst them? It's a camera that provides great image quality with some advanced features (SR) at a low price point. Simple. > > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" > > on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It's a camera that provides great image quality with some advanced > features (SR) at a low price point. Simple. I have a tripod that provides SR. Does that make my tripod advanced? I think the Pentaxen are worthwhile and even desirable. But you're talking like a salesman, and I have yet to find a 'reputable' camera review site that doesn't look like it's bought and paid for by camera manufacturers. Is your tripod built into the camera ??? :-) >> > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" >> > on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > review site that doesn't look like it's bought and paid for by camera > manufacturers. > >> > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly > >> > recommended" on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Is your tripod built into the camera ??? :-) Well, it's interesting you should ask. My tripod works in two modes: 'shake reduction' and 'self-defense.' It does either job admirably. Of course, in order to use the tripod in self-defense mode, the camera should be removed from it. This is accomplshed by a convenient feature known as the 'quick release ballhead.' >> >> > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly >> >> > recommended" on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > should be removed from it. This is accomplshed by a convenient feature > known as the 'quick release ballhead.' I would think it would be more effective for self defense with the camera attached. Although if you are frequently in situations of that nature you really should consider investing in a 1000mm lens <g>. >I think the Pentaxen are worthwhile and even desirable. But you're >talking like a salesman, and I have yet to find a 'reputable' camera >review site that doesn't look like it's bought and paid for by camera >manufacturers. You should try asking Phil Askey which camera manufacturers sponsor the dpreview site, and how much they pay. Perhaps you can tell which camera manufacturers *do not* sponsor the dpreview site by the reviews they get! ;-) >> I think the Pentaxen are worthwhile and even desirable. But you're >> talking like a salesman, and I have yet to find a 'reputable' camera >> review site that doesn't look like it's bought and paid for by camera >> manufacturers. > You should try asking Phil Askey which camera manufacturers sponsor > the dpreview site, and how much they pay. > > Perhaps you can tell which camera manufacturers *do not* sponsor the > dpreview site by the reviews they get! Maybe they all do? To date, DPreview have rated 39 DSLR bodies. Of these, 30 is rated "Highly Recommended", 8 is rated "Recommended" and 1 is given Phil's rock bottom rating: "Above Average". As for DSLR bodies that are just "Average", or worse - "Below Average" - well appearently they do not exist! (All this reminds me of an old episode of The Avengers, where John Steed unmasks a Soviet spy posing as a British Agent because the Russian describes a particular single malt as "good". Steed immediately knows the agent is fake because rating a single malt as anything less than "exceedingly good" is a very un-british thing to do.) Signature- gisle hannemyr [ gisle{at}hannemyr.no - http://hannemyr.com/photo/ ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sigma SD10, Kodak DCS460, Canon Powershot G5, Olympus 2020Z ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To date, DPreview have rated 39 DSLR bodies. Of these, 30 is rated >"Highly Recommended", 8 is rated "Recommended" and 1 is given Phil's >rock bottom rating: "Above Average". As for DSLR bodies that are >just "Average", or worse - "Below Average" - well appearently they >do not exist! This follows a long tradition in magazine reviews of never punishing your advertisers for their bad products. <g> >(All this reminds me of an old episode of The Avengers, where John >Steed unmasks a Soviet spy posing as a British Agent because the >Russian describes a particular single malt as "good". Steed >immediately knows the agent is fake because rating a single malt >as anything less than "exceedingly good" is a very un-british thing >to do.) You have a near-perfect understanding of the English language. ;-) > To date, DPreview have rated 39 DSLR bodies. Of these, 30 is rated > "Highly Recommended", 8 is rated "Recommended" and 1 is given Phil's > rock bottom rating: "Above Average". As for DSLR bodies that are > just "Average", or worse - "Below Average" - well appearently they > do not exist! Basic accounting: population = 39 and 1 is above average. One can only assume that many of the highly recommendeds and recommends are below average. Phil is making money Phil is making money Phil is making money, but Phil is not making sense. Logic and profits/marketing are often at odds. Phil is laughing all the way to the bank. See http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/ratings.php and http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/ethics.htm Peace, -chasfs http://chasfs.com --------------------- > >I think the Pentaxen are worthwhile and even desirable. But you're > >talking like a salesman, and I have yet to find a 'reputable' camera [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ;-) > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" > on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Is this designed to be of service to the reader or just to help sell > the product to a pixel-hungry crowd? Rich just sounds as if we are in the same point as we were with film SLRs in the '70s. Everyone makes a camera that make good images, like with film cameras everyone used similar film, now everyone has a similar sensor and processor. The pro cameras and close to pro cameras are the only ones that stand out, they they all make good high quality images. So your choice is megapixels high 12+mp, average high 8-10mp and average 6mp. All the camera manufacturers make good lenses, and some bad. All the DSLRs out on the market will make a reasonable 11x14, or larger with some care. So what is the difference, how the camera feels in your hand, how it is looking through the viewfinder, does it have antishake, has the manufacturer dropped some near critical feature to save money (Sony with RAW processing on the R1). So it is all personnal choice, prejudice or what have you. Makes it difficult for a reviewer. Tom RichA skrev: > I'm wondering if they should simply slap the label "highly recommended" > on all reviews and just have done with it? If the entry level of the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Is this designed to be of service to the reader or just to help sell > the product to a pixel-hungry crowd? Never mind the sticker. The real data is documented in the review, it's there for you to evaluate. Whether Phil (or Simon) choose to slap a "Highly recommended", a "Recommended" or an "Above average" sticker on it is comparatively uninteresting. But of course photographers _are_ a cranky lot. For instance, the die hard Panasonic fan club over at dpreview's Panasonic forum will never, EVER, forgive Phil that he only gave the FZ30 a "Recommended". This is an insult, the memory of which will be cherished till Doomsday. Jan B?hme |
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