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what dSLRshould I buy D80 or K10D

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bhup - 01 Dec 2006 23:28 GMT
Should I just sell off the Nikon gear and start a fresh with something like
the  pentax k10d or go for a Nikon d80

I have a stack of Nikon lens lens for 35mm film for my  F90x and F3
16mm fisheye  AFD f2,8
24mm AFD f2.8
60mm micro AFD  f2.8
180mm AFn f2.8
80-200 zoom AFD f3.5
35-105 zoom AFD
and few  manual focus nikors
135mm f3,5
50mm f1.8

in addition I have two pentax super A bodies ( stereo photography)and
pentax lens manual lens
28mm f2.8 SMC-A (x2)
50mm f1.4 SMC-A  (x2)
a 135mm f3.5smc- M

With the pentax  I do want to buy the pentax zoom fisheye and oneother zoom
to complement the manual focus lens
I'm doubtful if I would sell the pentax manual focus lens  they are so easy
to use and the results are top draw
DoN. Nichols - 02 Dec 2006 04:41 GMT
According to bhup <nospam@hotmail.com>:
> Should I just sell off the Nikon gear and start a fresh with something like
> the  pentax k10d or go for a Nikon d80
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> 135mm f3,5
> 50mm f1.8

    Hmm ... with the D80, you can use the various AF lenses with no
problems -- but the manual focus, depending on whether they are AI or
not are:

with AI:    You can mount them, but metering will have to be
        separate, as the body will not meter through these
        lenses.

without AI:    You can't even mount the lenses on the D80 unless you
        get new AI aperture rings for them, or get the existing
        aperture rings modified to act as AI rings.

    If you consider the Nikon D200, you can meter through the AI
lenses as well -- but still will need to have the non-AI ones (if any)
modified before they can be mounted.
       
    But even if those last two lenses are non-AI, you still have a
good bit of Nikon glass which you *can* use easily.  *I*, at least,
would get a Nikon DSLR to use them.

    Note that your 16mm fisheye won't look like a fisheye on the D80
(or any digital Nikon made to date), because the 1.5 crop factor will
make it act more like a 24mm -- with some distortion, but not what you
would expect from a fisheye.  (I know, because I have a 16mm f3.5 AI
manual focus Nikkor which I occasionally use on my D70.  There is some
curving of straight lines -- but mostly it looks like a not too
corrected wide angle. :-)

    Of course, each of these will act longer than they do on a film
body for the same reason, so you probably will want the 18-70mm lens
which is provided as the kit lens on the D70 and the D200.  I'm not sure
what the D80 comes with -- but you *will* want something easy to use
with zoom to cover that range.  The 16mm fisheye will probably not be
satisfactory for that.

> in addition I have two pentax super A bodies ( stereo photography)and
>  pentax lens manual lens
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> I'm doubtful if I would sell the pentax manual focus lens  they are so easy
> to use and the results are top draw

    Do you intend to shoot stereo with these with a new Pentax
digital body?  I'm not sure whether there *is* one which will do the
stereo.  If not -- why is it mentioned in this question in a DSLR
newsgroup?

    Good Luck,
        DoN.
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bhup - 02 Dec 2006 08:23 GMT
I'll shoot stereo in film only .  I want to move into digital and thinking
of consolidating and reducing the lens count

>> in addition I have two pentax super A bodies ( stereo photography)and
>>  pentax lens manual lens
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> newsgroup?
>--
tomm42 - 02 Dec 2006 16:50 GMT
> Should I just sell off the Nikon gear and start a fresh with something like
> the  pentax k10d or go for a Nikon d80
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> I'm doubtful if I would sell the pentax manual focus lens  they are so easy
> to use and the results are top draw

You have a number of "top drawer" Nikon lenses already. It would take
some extra $ to repeat that with Pentax. Look at the Thom Hogan site
and his review of the D80. You may want to replace the 50 f1.8 with an
AF one, but that is only $120 new, you have the 60 macro anyway, one of
the"top drawer" lenses. If you want some speed lens that meters then
look at the 35 f2 Nikon or the 30 f1.4 Sigma.
The Pentax K10 is a nice looking camera, note doubt about it. But with
the AF Nikkor lenses you already have I'd go Nikon.

Tom
Not Disclosed - 03 Dec 2006 22:44 GMT
> Should I just sell off the Nikon gear and start a fresh with something like
> the  pentax k10d or go for a Nikon d80
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> I'm doubtful if I would sell the pentax manual focus lens  they are so easy
> to use and the results are top draw

I am a long time Pentax user, but I would likely consider the Nikon
D200, considering the Nikkor glass you already have. I bought the *ist D
two years ago as I had 6 Pentax primes.

This is a hard decision, but the D200 is more camera but has AI/AI-S
compatibility, the D80 doesn't. The D200 and K10D both are weather
sealed. Tokina is rumoured to be the maker of Pentax's 10~17 fisheye
zoom. If not Tokina does have a similar lens;
<http://www.tokinalens.com/products/tokina/atx107afdx-a.html>

I feel the Pentax K10D is the camera the D80 could/should have been.
I'll likely buy the K10D based on I love how it feels and based on the
Pentax glass I own. My advice for you is the D200 is based on the great
Nikkor glass you own. The Pentax primes do get good money on eBay.
 
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