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M.Boxer - 21 Nov 2006 23:04 GMT
One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
Amazon or what?

regards,

Mojtaba
Leonard - 22 Nov 2006 00:02 GMT
> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
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>
> Mojtaba

I would sujjest buyibg from http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

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Leonard - 22 Nov 2006 00:08 GMT
I would suggest buying from B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

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M.Boxer - 22 Nov 2006 00:15 GMT
>I would suggest buying from B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

They are out of stock  and i am in kind of hurry

mojtaba
Leonard - 22 Nov 2006 00:40 GMT
> >I would suggest buying from B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
>
> They are out of stock  and i am in kind of hurry
>
> mojtaba

Those Amazon merchants are reliable because they depend on customers
feedback to stay listed on Amazon site.
You make your purchase through Amazon site, and your camera will arrive
from that merchant.
I bought one of my Canon lens this way, no problem.

Leonard

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Sheldon - 22 Nov 2006 00:46 GMT
> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
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>
> Mojtaba

Never had a problem with Amazon, and I buy a lot of stuff from them.  Much
of it coming from partner stores.
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 22 Nov 2006 02:23 GMT
> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
> Amazon or what?

I have never had a single problem with Amazon or its resellers.  Not one
problem.

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Todd H. - 22 Nov 2006 03:23 GMT
> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
> Amazon or what?

It depends.

There are things you buy from amazon.com, and some you buy from amazon
marketplace.  If you have a URL to share, that'd help, otherwise, you
have to read the fine print.  In the marketplace, you're buying from
the seller directly, and amazon is just the gathering point to help
the seller market, not terribly unlike making an ebay buy it now
transaction.

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M.Boxer - 22 Nov 2006 08:21 GMT
>> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
>> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
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>There are things you buy from amazon.com, and some you buy from amazon
>marketplace.  If you have a URL to share, that'd help,

Hi, here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IHN8AO/ref=pd_kar_gw_2/103-6037815-9286223

regards,

mojtaba
Jeremy Nixon - 22 Nov 2006 20:45 GMT
> Hi, here is the link:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IHN8AO/ref=pd_kar_gw_2/103-6037815-9286223

That's directly sold from Amazon itself.  No problem at all.

There are other "buying choices", which are Cameta Camera and 17th Street
Photo, both of which should also be okay, but both of which are also more
expensive.  But buying directly from Amazon is essentially worry-free.

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jeremy - 22 Nov 2006 20:55 GMT
>> Hi, here is the link:
>>
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> Photo, both of which should also be okay, but both of which are also more
> expensive.  But buying directly from Amazon is essentially worry-free.

Agreed.

Amazon discloses on its web page whether the product is sold directly by
them or by an affiliate.

Your credit card is always billed by Amazon, and tour financial info is not
turned over to the affiliate, so you needn't worry about unauthorized extra
charges.

I've bought a number of things from Amazon, including a film scanner, and
there has never been any kind of hitch.
Paul Mitchum - 22 Nov 2006 22:57 GMT
> > One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
> > sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
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> directly, and amazon is just the gathering point to help the seller
> market, not terribly unlike making an ebay buy it now transaction.

Actually, it's *very* different from an ebay purchase. Amazon backs up
the sale, and you're guaranteed shipping times. But as always, it's
important to read the fine print.

Note that Samsung seems to have also released a 10-mp DSLR with
basically the same specs as the K10D... Imagine that. :-)
Pat - 22 Nov 2006 05:44 GMT
I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.  I am rural and
inconvenient to deliver to.  I have a mailbox that is distant from my home
and along side a busy highway.  I have a PO Box for mail delivery because my
mailbox is not secure and unsuitable for use.  Amazon insists on a street
address.  DHL hands off to USPS.  My expensive lens gets dumped on the
ground beside my mailbox because it won't fit in the mailbox.  I am sitting
at home without a clue.  I haven't used Amazon since.

> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
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>
> Mojtaba
josh@phred.org - 22 Nov 2006 09:19 GMT
> I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
> which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.  I am rural and
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> ground beside my mailbox because it won't fit in the mailbox.  I am sitting
> at home without a clue.  I haven't used Amazon since.

Amazon definitely will ship to post office boxes, though some of their
sellers won't.

Don't think I've ever had an Amazon order shipped DHL.  Some sellers
using Amazon ship DHL, but I've never had Amazon itself ship that way.  

When shopping on the Amazon site, pay attention to who you are actually
buying something from -- there are thousands of vendors other than
Amazon who sell through Amazon storefronts, and some of them have very
different terms than Amazon itself.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse - 22 Nov 2006 13:53 GMT
> I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
> which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.  I am rural and
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> ground beside my mailbox because it won't fit in the mailbox.  I am sitting
> at home without a clue.  I haven't used Amazon since.

DHL?  Everything that I have ever ordered from them has come UPS.

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J. Clarke - 22 Nov 2006 16:30 GMT
> I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
> which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.  I am rural and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> ground beside my mailbox because it won't fit in the mailbox.  I am sitting
> at home without a clue.  I haven't used Amazon since.

I've never had Amazon ship using anybody but UPS and they always have a
tracking number.  But Amazon has practically no photo equipment--your
"expensive lens" almost certainly came from Adorama or one of the other
resellers that has a presence on Amazon.

>> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
>> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
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>>
>> Mojtaba

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ellis@no.spam - 23 Nov 2006 07:05 GMT
>But Amazon has practically no photo equipment

Really? This looks like photo equipment to me:

 http://images.spinics.net/am/B000IHN8AO
ellis@no.spam - 23 Nov 2006 07:03 GMT
>I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
>which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.

They use DHL?  I have *never* had a shipment from Amazon that came
via DHL.
Randy W. Sims - 23 Nov 2006 19:32 GMT
>> I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
>> which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.
>
> They use DHL?  I have *never* had a shipment from Amazon that came
> via DHL.

Possibly from one of their affiliate stores. I've had deliveries by UPS
from Amazon.com, UPS, USPS, & FedEx from affiliates. I strongly prefer
UPS; their tracking system always works, they are almost always deliver
early. USPS & FedEx don't have good tracking, though I don't think they
have ever been late on a shipment. I also think UPS tends to take better
care of packages en route and make better delivery to the door
(friendlier & not leaving packages in stupid places).

I've bought a lot of stuff through Amazon & affiliates, and I have never
ran into any problems. Over the last year some of the stuff I bought
through them has come from Amazon.com, Adorama, Digital Dist., OneCall,
Bowling.com, Bowlers Paradise. No bad experiences at all. The only thing
I would improve upon would be shipment tracking or allowing for setting
a preferred shipper for all affiliates so that I can always use UPS, but
that would probably not be practical for them.

Randy.
irwell - 24 Nov 2006 15:32 GMT
>>> I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
>>> which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.
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>
>Randy.

Also Amazon is a good place to sell your used
gear. Great protection, both for the buyer and the
seller.
Have had really good experiences on both counts.
Paul Furman - 24 Nov 2006 18:32 GMT
> Also Amazon is a good place to sell your used
> gear. Great protection, both for the buyer and the
> seller.
> Have had really good experiences on both counts.

I can't see where they say how much of a cut they get from the transaction.

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Dave - 27 Nov 2006 06:56 GMT
I think it is a good company but I have had occasional books with major
printing errors. It's not easy to return merchandise when a return involves
more than just driving back to the store and handing it back. I get a
feeling that their quality control could be a little better.

Dave

>>> I have stopped using Amazon because of shipping problems.  They use DHL
>>> which hands the package off to USPS for delivery.
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>
> Randy.
derek_c@cix.compulink.co.uk - 28 Nov 2006 01:02 GMT
I wouldn't be inclined to blame Amazon for printing errors.

It's not the publisher, it doesn't print the books, it just stores them
then ships them!

And suggesting that a vendor should flip through every single page of
every book that goes through its hands (as it would have to do) is
suggesting that you like a book to cost several hundred dollars a copy!

> *From:* "Dave" <Dave@pleasereplytonewsgroup.ca>
> *Date:* Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:56:23 GMT
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>
> Dave
Dave - 29 Nov 2006 03:13 GMT
>I wouldn't be inclined to blame Amazon for printing errors.
>
> It's not the publisher, it doesn't print the books, it just stores them
> then ships them!

   You make a good point, Derek, Amazon is not in the printing business.

   Of course I don't expect them to leaf through every book. But with a
brick and mortar store it is easier to do a return, plain and simple.
Regardless of who's fault it is, it ends up being the consumer's problem if
mail order doesn't go easily. I suspect that all but the most gross printing
errors are just swallowed by the mail order consumer. Too much effort to do
a return.

Dave
W Paul Mills - 01 Dec 2006 22:56 GMT
> Possibly from one of their affiliate stores. I've had deliveries by UPS
> from Amazon.com, UPS, USPS, & FedEx from affiliates. I strongly prefer
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> care of packages en route and make better delivery to the door
> (friendlier & not leaving packages in stupid places).

NOPE! I have had things shipped direct from an Amazon warehouse via DHL.
Not a problem for me, but I can understand why this may not be OK for
others.

Only problem I ever had from Amazon was from an affiliate. And Amazon
made sure that they made it right.
Jim Redelfs - 22 Nov 2006 13:35 GMT
> One day they qoute Pentax K10D for 899 usd, another day 918 usd, They
> sell from less reputable companies, How does it work? Do I buy from
> Amazon or what?

Consumer electronics is a VERY competitive and volatile marketplace with
prices and supply changing constantly.

In many years, I have never had a problem with Amazon.  However, I believe my
most recent purchase was my first with a marketplace seller via the official
Amazon web site.  That experience was fine, too.

With the link you provided, you notice that your intended camera is NOT sold
directly by Amazon.com, rather it "Ships from and sold by 17th Street Photo".  
As always, good luck, but you should OK.
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HankB - 23 Nov 2006 04:56 GMT
> With the link you provided, you notice that your intended camera is NOT sold
> directly by Amazon.com, rather it "Ships from and sold by 17th Street Photo".

Then is must vary from day because today it says:

  Availability: In Stock. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.

And 17th street photo is listed under "More buying choices." Perhaps
when you looked, Amazon was out of stock.

-hank
ellis@no.spam - 23 Nov 2006 07:06 GMT
>With the link you provided, you notice that your intended camera is NOT sold
>directly by Amazon.com, rather it "Ships from and sold by 17th Street Photo".  
>As always, good luck, but you should OK.

That's not what I saw:

 "Availability: In Stock. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com."
 
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