I'm a bit worried that I might have become addicted to primes. I'm pretty
new to digital slr photography and have been happily using my 18-70 kit lens
for the last 6 months which was bundled with my d70s. I recently raided my
savings and replaced the kit lens with the 17-55/2.8 and am very impressed
with this lens, but I also purchased a couple of primes, the 85/1.4 and the
50/1.4 and I'm now feeling guilty as the primes have been on my camera far
more than the zoom!
I can see that a working pro doing things like weddings or photojournalism
will need the zoom, wheras the hobby photographer may well be happier with
the primes as there is not the pressure to get shots, and the thing that
really impresses me with the primes is the simplicity of the design and the
light weight for what they will do. Compared with the zoom I'm hardly
aware of the lens on the camera as it's so light, especially the 50mm.
Another thing I like about the primes is that it makes you think a lot more
about composition as you have to choose your shot based on the lens rather
than seeing something you like and framing with the zoom. I can see
myself now wanting to gradually get the full set of primes but this could
get very expensive.
Cheers - Adrian www.boliston.co.uk
Scott W - 13 Nov 2006 21:50 GMT
> I'm a bit worried that I might have become addicted to primes. I'm pretty
> new to digital slr photography and have been happily using my 18-70 kit lens
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> myself now wanting to gradually get the full set of primes but this could
> get very expensive.
Nothing to feel guilty about. In general prime lenses are a great buy
and if you are going to work in low light they are just about a must.
I am slowly, very slowly, building my collection of prime lenses. The
50mm f/1.8 was so inexpensive it was hard to pass up, but with a crop
factor of 1.6 is somewhat limited when shooting indoors. I have just
ordered a 28mm f/2.8, which should do fairly well for indoor shooting.
Next will either be the 100mm f/2 or the 100mm macro f/2.8.
I also use Zoom lenses because often I simply don't have the time to
change lenses.
When I am shooting image that I am later going to stitch I much prefer
prime lenes, which is another big reason for the 28mm lens, this is a
very good focal length when stitching to go to exterme wide angle.
Currently I mostly stitch using my 50mm but this if often just a bit
long.
Scott
Alan Browne - 13 Nov 2006 22:11 GMT
> I'm a bit worried that I might have become addicted to primes. I'm pretty
> new to digital slr photography and have been happily using my 18-70 kit lens
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> myself now wanting to gradually get the full set of primes but this could
> get very expensive.
Perspective control always requires that you change position so it is a
moot point whether you have zoom or prime. To get the shot as you
envision it you have to be at the right point in space. Once there a
prime is the best lens to have.
I prefer primes for creative photography and zooms for any time there
will be a lot of people about and in the shots.
Cheers,
Alan

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Scott W - 13 Nov 2006 22:45 GMT
> Perspective control always requires that you change position so it
is a
> moot point whether you have zoom or prime. To get the shot as you
> envision it you have to be at the right point in space. Once there a
> prime is the best lens to have.
>
> I prefer primes for creative photography and zooms for any time there
> will be a lot of people about and in the shots.
And sometime there is not enough time to even think about changing
lenses.
This shoot was taken at 178mm
http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/70177794
and 4 seconds later this shot was taken at 64mm
http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/70177798
And there were two shots taken between those two. Sometime life comes
at you pretty fast and you just don't have time to do all the careful
setup you might want to do.
Scott
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 13 Nov 2006 22:25 GMT
> I'm a bit worried that I might have become addicted to primes. I'm
> pretty new to digital slr photography and have been happily using my
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> a couple of primes, the 85/1.4 and the 50/1.4 and I'm now feeling
> guilty as the primes have been on my camera far more than the zoom!
Needn't worry. The primes you got are really nice. I like my 85/1.4 and
50/1.4 as well. I prefer natural light photography, when possible, and find
these two lenses a true joy. Plus, the bokeh on the 85 is killer. The
17-55 is a nice lens and you should enjoy it, but you'll find the primes
more satisfying to use. Add the 28mm f/1.4 to your bag and you will be
throwing away the 17-55.
Rita
David J Taylor - 14 Nov 2006 09:12 GMT
[]
> I can see myself now
> wanting to gradually get the full set of primes but this could get
> very expensive.
> Cheers - Adrian www.boliston.co.uk
Is it a co-incidence that some manufacturers of DSLRs have stopped
extending their high-end non-SLR cameras - the ones they can't sell a
range of lenses for? Almost giving the camera bodies away! <G>
David
Adrian Boliston - 14 Nov 2006 13:58 GMT
> []
>> I can see myself now
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> extending their high-end non-SLR cameras - the ones they can't sell a
> range of lenses for? Almost giving the camera bodies away! <G>
If they start selling bodies for little profit in the hope they will make
money on glass then this must benefit those new to dslr as they get the
basic body for peanuts and add glass when they can afford it. The d50 has
got to be a bargain for someone getting into dslr photography, which teamed
with the basic 50/1.8 will produce top class photos for *very* little
outlay.
My Bokeh - 17 Nov 2006 17:22 GMT
> I'm a bit worried that I might have become addicted to primes. I'm pretty
> new to digital slr photography and have been happily using my 18-70 kit lens
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> 50/1.4 and I'm now feeling guilty as the primes have been on my camera far
> more than the zoom!
Adrian--
I'm right there with you. I started out with zooms, but as my interest
(and ability) increased, I became more and more interested in primes. I
shoot with Canon, and I began with the 50 f/1.4 about a year ago. When
I first got it, I loved it. But for some reason, I kind of forgot about
it. A month or two ago, I "rediscovered" it, prompting me to buy the 85
f/1.8. The 85 is a fantastic lens, and quite a good buy for what one
gets. My experience with these ultimately led me to the 135 f/2L. I had
read all the reviews and, dare I say it, exaltations about this lens.
After using it, I have to say I am a convert. It is simply a fantastic
lens.
With primes, I feel I get better color, saturation, and sharpness (all
well discussed pluses for primes). But I also feel I have grown more
active with my photography. Using primes forces me to consider each
shot more actively in regard to composition, framing, and over-all
"initial completeness." It has been a wonderful journey.
I still like my 70-200 f/4L, I still love my 24-70 f/2.8L, and I still
adore my 16-35 f/2.8L, but my new primes have given me a fresh
perspective on photography. I find more and more opportunities to use
them, and I am enjoying exploring their potential--and my own.
--John
Angus Manwaring - 17 Nov 2006 19:47 GMT
On 17-Nov-06 17:22:15, My Bokeh said
>I still like my 70-200 f/4L, I still love my 24-70 f/2.8L, and I still
>adore my 16-35 f/2.8L, but my new primes have given me a fresh
>perspective on photography.
No John, perspective is only changed by viewpoint, not by focal length!
Sorry, couldn't resist, when I was photographic assistant in the early
eighties, one of the old and wise Photographers always used to bang on
about that. :)
All the best,
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jeremy - 17 Nov 2006 21:53 GMT
"My Bokeh" <mybokeh@gmail.com> wrote in message
> I'm right there with you. I started out with zooms, but as my interest
> (and ability) increased, I became more and more interested in primes.
Photographers tend to prefer one over the other, according to author Brian
Bower. I agree. I use a couple of zooms only to fill in the gaps if I
require a particular focal length that I don't have in primes.
I know that primes slow down the photographer (having to change lenses
rather than simply twist the zoom ring), but slowing down has made me a
better photographer.
Buy_Sell - 18 Nov 2006 03:32 GMT
Adrian, I'm quite impressed with some of your photographs.
I also have the D70s camera with the following lenses.
50/1.8
35-70/2.8
80-200/2.8
If you ever get a chance to try out the 80-200/2.8, I think that you
will be impressed with it.
I am considering to purchase the 17-35/2.8 and the 105micro/2.8 but
decisions, decisions...
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> I'm a bit worried that I might have become addicted to primes. I'm pretty
> new to digital slr photography and have been happily using my 18-70 kit lens
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>
> Cheers - Adrian www.boliston.co.uk