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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / November 2006

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Wide angle lenses

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Jon Nadelberg - 10 Nov 2006 02:10 GMT
I've got a 17-35mm zoom, and was wondering if I put that on a digital
camera, and get the 1.5x zoom factor, will the lens actually put out an
image that looks like a 25-52 or so lens?  Or will the image look like a
cropped 17-35 lens?

I'm thinking of using this for pictures that contain people, and was
wondering if using the wide angle lens will still unpleasantly distort
faces or if the zoom factor of the camera gets rid of it.

Otherwise, I guess I'll have to use a longer lens, and just step back a
bunch further....
achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 10 Nov 2006 02:23 GMT
> I've got a 17-35mm zoom, and was wondering if I put that on a digital
> camera, and get the 1.5x zoom factor, will the lens actually put out an
> image that looks like a 25-52 or so lens?  Or will the image look like a
> cropped 17-35 lens?

It will look like a cropped 17-35 lens (because that is exactly what it
is).

> I'm thinking of using this for pictures that contain people, and was
> wondering if using the wide angle lens will still unpleasantly distort
> faces or if the zoom factor of the camera gets rid of it.

However, the distortion is not caused by the lens itself: Suppose you
take two photographs in which you fill the frame with someone's face,
one with a 90mm lens, the other with a 20mm lens (assume 35mm film).
You will of course have to be much closer to do this with the 20mm
lens; as a result, you will get the distortion  you mention. If,
instead, you had taken the photo from the same distance as would fill
the frame with the 90mm lens and then cropped to fill the frame (assume
infinite resolution!), you'd get the same distortion using either lens.

The point is that distortion is caused by the change of perspective
caused by a change of distance, rather than the lens (think about it:
what is hidden by someone's nose depends on where you are looking for,
and on that only: a change of lens cannot have any effect on this).

Anyway, the answer to your question is that if you would have found a
25-52mm lens satisfactory in terms of perspective/distortion, you will
also find the 17-35mm satisfactory
achilleaslazarides@yahoo.co.uk - 10 Nov 2006 02:50 GMT
> what is hidden by someone's nose depends on where you are looking for,

the last word should be "from", not "for"...
Jon Nadelberg - 10 Nov 2006 03:31 GMT
>> I've got a 17-35mm zoom, and was wondering if I put that on a digital
>> camera, and get the 1.5x zoom factor, will the lens actually put out an
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> 25-52mm lens satisfactory in terms of perspective/distortion, you will
> also find the 17-35mm satisfactory

OK, thank you! Completely clear!
ben brugman - 10 Nov 2006 08:48 GMT
> I've got a 17-35mm zoom, and was wondering if I put that on a digital
> camera, and get the 1.5x zoom factor, will the lens actually put out an
> image that looks like a 25-52 or so lens?  Or will the image look like a
> cropped 17-35 lens?

Angle and perspective the crop of a 17-35 on a DSLR and the full
picture of a 25-52 on a 35 mm format will look exactly or almost
the same.

Although a good 17-35 does not distort to much. Because of the
wide angle while taking the picture and the not so wide angle while
viewing the picture, the picture looks distorted when viewing.
But if you view the picture from the correct position, so that the
angles are the same as when taking the picture there is no
distortion.

The wide angle effects of a 17 mm on a DSLR (1.5 crop or zoomfactor),
are less than that on a 35 mm camera.

ben

> I'm thinking of using this for pictures that contain people, and was
> wondering if using the wide angle lens will still unpleasantly distort
> faces or if the zoom factor of the camera gets rid of it.
>
> Otherwise, I guess I'll have to use a longer lens, and just step back a
> bunch further....
Gisle Hannemyr - 16 Nov 2006 21:49 GMT
> I've got a 17-35mm zoom, and was wondering if I put that on a
> digital camera, and get the 1.5x zoom factor, will the lens actually
> put out an image that looks like a 25-52 or so lens?

Yes.

> Or will the image look like a cropped 17-35 lens?

Yes.

> I'm thinking of using this for pictures that contain people, and was
> wondering if using the wide angle lens will still unpleasantly
> distort faces or if the zoom factor of the camera gets rid of it.

The distortion you refer to is a myth.  For pictorial evidence.
see  http://hannemyr.com/photo/crop.html#per .

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