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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / November 2006Minolta users get to go "upscale" thanks to Sony
Nice glass. http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/69877682 Sony has the resources to push the Sinolta to the head of the pack. However most of what I have read suggests that Zeiss badged lenses will sell at unrealistically high price points. > Sony has the resources to push the Sinolta to the head of the pack. > However most of what I have read suggests that Zeiss badged lenses will > sell at unrealistically high price points. Oh, you mean like Canon, which are proof people will pay whatever you charge? >> Sony has the resources to push the Sinolta to the head of the pack. >> However most of what I have read suggests that Zeiss badged lenses will >> sell at unrealistically high price points. > > Oh, you mean like Canon, which are proof people will pay whatever you > charge? That's true of just about any camera mfr, especially those who number DSLRs on their product list. But Leica leads the pack by a furlong, or more. Pentax may be to only exception to that, but it's debatable.  SignatureSkip Middleton www.shadowcatcherimagery.com www.pbase.com/skipm > Sony has the resources to push the Sinolta to the head of the pack. However > most of what I have read suggests that Zeiss badged lenses will sell at > unrealistically high price points. They might find buyers. Supposedly they're bringing out three more DSLRs, at least one a "pro" model of some sort. The Zeiss glass is actually (for what it was) cheaper than the pro Olympus glass. >>Sony has the resources to push the Sinolta to the head of the pack. However >>most of what I have read suggests that Zeiss badged lenses will sell at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > DSLRs, at least one a "pro" model of some sort. The Zeiss glass is > actually (for what it was) cheaper than the pro Olympus glass. Consider, also, that Zeiss have similar (but not identical) Nikon mount lenses just announced. Sony may have a certain hold over some of the designs, but it's possible Zeiss could be launching Canon or Nikon AF or even 4/3rds fit lenses in future. What's important right now is that there remains a worldwide shortage of SLR lens production capacity, and an overcapacity in the compact digicam sector. Camera phones and pocket digitals are almost being given away, while retailers are unable to obtain many DSLR lenses, with waiting lists and delays for new gear accompanying rising prices for good used kit. Zeiss is apparently opening up new production lines with Sony (not hijacking existing facilities) just as Panasonic did with Leica. It will only take two or three more companies to invest in new lines, reversing the trend of outsourcing lenses (see the Pentax non-limited range and the Tokina range as an example of this) and capacity will catch up with demand. Once it exceeds demand, we can expect to see prices fall. David > Consider, also, that Zeiss have similar (but not identical) Nikon mount > lenses just announced. Sony may have a certain hold over some of the > designs, but it's possible Zeiss could be launching Canon or Nikon AF or > even 4/3rds fit lenses in future. The Zeiss-branded lenses for the Nikon F mount are all manual focus lenses without a CPU (AI-S lenses) and therefore they can only be used by the D2 and D200 cameras. At least, if they had a CPU (like Nikon P lenses) they could be used by any Nikon camera but that was not to be. I doubt that Zeiss will ever put its name on Nikon or Canon AF lenses. They will stick with Sony i.e. Sony will manufacture lenses with the Zeiss brand name on them, for those who have more money than sense, in order to offer something equivalent to the Canon L-type luxury lenses. >> Consider, also, that Zeiss have similar (but not identical) Nikon mount >> lenses just announced. Sony may have a certain hold over some of the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > lenses without a CPU (AI-S lenses) and therefore they can only be used > by the D2 and D200 cameras. Is that actually true or does it simply mean that they will not meter and you have to do your settings manually perhaps using the sunny 16 rule or use a meter? > At least, if they had a CPU (like Nikon P > lenses) they could be used by any Nikon camera but that was not to be. Something that Nikon really needs to fix on it's "lower end" cameras, all Pentax D-SLRs will meter with any lens that you can physically fit to the camera (some auto some manually), there is no excuse for Nikon not including this feature. > I doubt that Zeiss will ever put its name on Nikon or Canon AF lenses. > They will stick with Sony i.e. Sony will manufacture lenses with the > Zeiss brand name on them, for those who have more money than sense, in > order to offer something equivalent to the Canon L-type luxury lenses. > Something that Nikon really needs to fix on it's "lower end" cameras, all > Pentax D-SLRs will meter with any lens that you can physically fit to the > camera (some auto some manually), there is no excuse for Nikon not including > this feature. Yeah, this is the most important thing keeping me from buying the D80. It's a completely artificial limitation of course, as being able to meter and autoexpose with any lens or beer bottle bottom is a feature that's been around in dozens of SLR's since at least the 70's... Actually now I'm pretty interested in the K10D. > Sony has the resources to push the Sinolta to the head of the pack. > However most of what I have read suggests that Zeiss badged lenses will > sell at unrealistically high price points. I doubt the difference will ever make it to the final print. More "Gray Poupon" marketing for people with more money than brains! Bill Crocker This is really a key issue: absolute lens quality is just not as great a factor in digital photography as in film photography. In my opinion the worst sin a lens can have is chromatic aberration as this is the most difficult to correct in high contrast portions of an image and is probably exagerrated due to the limited dynamic range of digital sensors. |
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