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Epson P-5000 a Winner

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Mark² - 28 Oct 2006 00:58 GMT
Just received the P-5000 today, and it's a MAJOR UPGRADE with VERY
significant improvement on what was already the king of
storage/display/Card-backup units.

The big changes?

Here are the significant changes I've noticed so far...

-WAAAAY faster!! -500% faster viewing of files (rendering), and
nearly-instant thumbnail appearance, which was a pain on the previous units
-Better, more straight-forward menu system for basic operations
-Much faster copyying (more than 200% faster)
-Larger (4") screen, which now displays 24 bit color (!).
-You can now ZOOM in on RAW files...AND...they display JUST AS QUICKLY as
their jpeg counterparts!  How did they do that???
-Excellent "delete mode" for quickly eliminating junk-files
-Capability to hook up DIRECTLY to an external hard drive for
back-up/redundancy (very useful) via full-size USB connector on unit
-HUGELY improved video file handling (now handles .avi, .mov, .div, .divx,
.mp4, .mpg, mpe, .asf, wmv, .m4v, mod, vob...just about anything you're
likely to use)
-Memory cards are no longer inserted in an "upside-down" manner
-Blown highlight and shadow indicators when you desire
-Zooming tool!  -You can select the portion of the frame you want to check
focus on, and zoom DIRECTLY to that portion at 100%. --Very helpful, and
saves fiddling.
-Adobe RGB display support!
-Computer-upload software for easy back-up/up-load to PC
-Easy * rating system for tagging images, and then sorting according to
rating--very cool
-Control over how thumbs are displayed, including size of thumbs,
information shown, and even a small 64-image-per-page mode! -Which works
amazingly well due to the large, high-res, 24 bit screen
-If you like using it as a slide-show viewer (which also feeds a TV or
projector), the transition effects are extremely smooth and classy
-You can even connect a USB flash drive directly to the unit for file
transfer/viewing
-AND...you can use the full-size USB port to connect to STANDARD CARD
READERS...which opens the unit to back-up of ANYONE'S images from ANY
source.
---The above also means that you can "hand off" images to someone's USB
device...without a computer. Very cool abilty.
-Full file management, with folder naming and file naming FROM WITHIN THE
DEVICE
-Music fans will appreciate the addition of WMA and M4p files, instead of
only mp3.
-Music fans will also appreciate the inclusion of a file converter if you
don't use the above formats
-More for music...You can now shuffle and repeat lists of tunes

As I noted above...this is a MAJOR UPGRADE which answers every single gripe
I've ever had or heard with regard to Epson's great-but-imperfect
P-2000/P-4000 units.

I honestly can't think of anything they left out...and they thought of some
very useful features I hadn't even thought to wish for.

Very pleased.

-Mark²

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Pete D - 28 Oct 2006 01:01 GMT
> Just received the P-5000 today, and it's a MAJOR UPGRADE with VERY
> significant improvement on what was already the king of
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> -You can now ZOOM in on RAW files...AND...they display JUST AS QUICKLY as
> their jpeg counterparts!  How did they do that???

Because they are only looking at the embeded jpeg?

> -Excellent "delete mode" for quickly eliminating junk-files
> -Capability to hook up DIRECTLY to an external hard drive for
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> -Mark²

Sounds good but does it do all raw formats or just Canon and Nikon?
Mark² - 28 Oct 2006 01:08 GMT
>> Just received the P-5000 today, and it's a MAJOR UPGRADE with VERY
>> significant improvement on what was already the king of
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Because they are only looking at the embeded jpeg?

I believe that may be true.
The older units didn't allow ANY zooming, while this unit allows enough to
make a better judgement.
Not perfect...but a real improvement.
It means that I can now do away with the RAW+jpeg space-wasting work-around.

>> -Excellent "delete mode" for quickly eliminating junk-files
>> -Capability to hook up DIRECTLY to an external hard drive for
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>
> Sounds good but does it do all raw formats or just Canon and Nikon?

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Joan - 28 Oct 2006 02:48 GMT
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/p5k___/p5k___ug.pdf

Go to page 25.

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: Sounds good but does it do all raw formats or just Canon and Nikon?
Pete D - 28 Oct 2006 03:22 GMT
Hi Joan,

What does page 25 say?

> http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/p5k___/p5k___ug.pdf
>
> Go to page 25.
>
> : Sounds good but does it do all raw formats or just Canon and Nikon?
David J Taylor - 28 Oct 2006 08:08 GMT
> Hi Joan,
>
> What does page 25 say?

That the JPEG is displayed, and that the supported formats are:

.cr2
.crw
.raw
.dng
.mrw
.nef
.orf
.pef

(but the PDF manaual doesn't allow edit-copy with ^C - grrr!)

David
Pete D - 28 Oct 2006 08:15 GMT
>> Hi Joan,
>>
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>
> David

Even in Acrobat Pro 7.0 it does not allow much.
Mark² - 28 Oct 2006 03:44 GMT
>> As I noted above...this is a MAJOR UPGRADE which answers every single
>> gripe I've ever had or heard with regard to Epson's
>> great-but-imperfect P-2000/P-4000 units.

> Sounds good but does it do all raw formats or just Canon and Nikon?

It handles the following RAW formats:
.cr2
.crw
.dng
.erf
.raf
.mrw
.nef
.orf
.pef

That should cover most anyone.

Oh...and the initial firmware supports images up to 30MPs which should cover
anyone.

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just bob - 30 Oct 2006 05:23 GMT
>>> As I noted above...this is a MAJOR UPGRADE which answers every single
>>> gripe I've ever had or heard with regard to Epson's
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> That should cover most anyone.

They did not support tif from my old 1D bodies. Yes, I should replace but
cannot yet!
Mark² - 30 Oct 2006 05:36 GMT
>>>> As I noted above...this is a MAJOR UPGRADE which answers every
>>>> single gripe I've ever had or heard with regard to Epson's
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> They did not support tif from my old 1D bodies. Yes, I should replace
> but cannot yet!

The book says it doesn't support tif files...and yet it displays files I've
converted to tif in photoshop...
?

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just bob - 31 Oct 2006 08:28 GMT
>>>>> As I noted above...this is a MAJOR UPGRADE which answers every
>>>>> single gripe I've ever had or heard with regard to Epson's
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> The book says it doesn't support tif files...and yet it displays files
> I've converted to tif in photoshop...?

It's a RAW file with  a TIF file extension. Has very low res imbedded JPEG.
RAW conversion must be done to see detail. I guess they decided a four year
old camera (even when the P-2000 came out) was not worth supporting.
Skip - 28 Oct 2006 04:37 GMT
> Just received the P-5000 today, and it's a MAJOR UPGRADE with VERY
> significant improvement on what was already the king of
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
>
> -Mark²

Just out of curiosity, what's the capacity?

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Mark² - 28 Oct 2006 04:43 GMT
>> Just received the P-5000 today, and it's a MAJOR UPGRADE with VERY
>> significant improvement on what was already the king of
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
>>
> Just out of curiosity, what's the capacity?

The P-5000 is 80GB.
P-3000 is identical, but 40GB.

BTW...I didn't mention that you can actually browse images and copy to/from
any plug-and-play USB external hard-drive...including all files, video, etc.
-Without a computer.

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