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Ben Rosengart - 05 Mar 2005 05:44 GMT

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:28:00 -0800, Skip M <shadowcatcher@cox.net> wrote:

> Nice shots,

Thank you.

> did you shoot them in greyscale, or convert from a color file?

I shot in RAW, then used the lightness channel in LAB mode.

Speaking of which -- here is my evidence that the lightness channel
is not the same as desaturation:

http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/lightness.jpg
http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/desat.jpg

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Skip M - 05 Mar 2005 11:11 GMT

>> Nice shots,
>
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> http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/lightness.jpg
> http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/desat.jpg

Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective. I get results with my 20D
set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate Ilford
XP-2 very closely.
Example: (nude warning...)
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

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Ben Rosengart - 05 Mar 2005 16:55 GMT

> Hmm, don't see much difference.

Maybe not, but there *is* a difference, don't you agree?

> By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
> on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective.

Did I say that? I should say rather that I'm not usually happy with
the results from it on my pictures.

> I get results with my 20D
> set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate Ilford
> XP-2 very closely.
> Example: (nude warning...)
> http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

That's very nice.

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Skip M - 05 Mar 2005 17:39 GMT

>> Hmm, don't see much difference.
>
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>
> That's very nice.

Thanks!

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Brian Baird - 05 Mar 2005 19:51 GMT

> Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
> on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective. I get results with my 20D
> set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate Ilford
> XP-2 very closely.
> Example: (nude warning...)
> http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

Now you're cooking with GAS!

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DoN. Nichols - 05 Mar 2005 20:36 GMT

>> Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
>> on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective. I get results with my 20D
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>
>Now you're cooking with GAS!

    Hmm ... the burners are missing -- and there is not enough
detail in the web image (at least) for me to be sure that it is not
electric.

    But I do find myself wondering how she *got* there, barefoot,
with all that junk on the floor. Or did she wear shoes, and then toss
them out of the image frame before the shot?

    Enjoy,
        DoN.

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Skip M - 06 Mar 2005 13:11 GMT

>>> Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with
>>> you
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> Enjoy,
> DoN.

Actually, her shoes and clothes are tucked behind the stove...

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Alan Browne - 05 Mar 2005 22:26 GMT

> http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

"Okay honey now that you've signed the release, let's just head on over
to my high tech studio..."

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Skip M - 06 Mar 2005 13:11 GMT

>> http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html
>
> "Okay honey now that you've signed the release, let's just head on over to
> my high tech studio..."

Heheheh, that's what I tell all the girls... ;-)

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