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Always noise in dark blue skies

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RichA - 16 Oct 2006 04:36 GMT
Even with a low noise camera like this one.  It's not bad, but it will
show up on a print.  Dark blue seems to be particularly susceptable to
showing this.  I never checked but I wonder if the noise is less or
more visible in cameras that exhibit the blochy coloured noise more
than they do the dark, "grainy" noise of others?

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Mick Harris - 19 Oct 2006 11:45 GMT
> Even with a low noise camera like this one.  It's not bad, but it will
> show up on a print.  Dark blue seems to be particularly susceptable to
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> http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_1136-raw-acr.jpg

> Even with a low noise camera like this one.  It's not bad, but it will
> show up on a print.  Dark blue seems to be particularly susceptable to
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> http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_1136-raw-acr.jpg

Hi Rich
It looks fine to me, yes there is a small amount of noise etc, but no more
than I would normally expect for large expanses of one colour.
Are you shooting RAW then converting to JPG, or just straight JPG?  I ask
because RAW normal contains more noise than a JPG to start with.
If you want to filter out the noise, give NeatImage a try, it's the best
noise/grain filter I have come across http://www.neatimage.com.
I downloaded your pic and tried it in neatimage, and it has smoothed out the
noise really well, if you want me to post it back to you to have a look,
just mail me direct.
ATB
Mick
Buy_Sell - 19 Oct 2006 15:11 GMT
I had a similar problem while shooting at a white piece of paper
indoors.  The paper has graduations on it that I use to establish the
focus of the camera by shooting at 45 degrees to the paper.  Anyway, I
solved my noisy image by setting the white balance properly.

There were several clues to the problem.  First of all, the white on
the image was not linear and appeared noisy.  It had a sort of orange
tint as you moved away from the center.  The histogram was mostly to
the left when it should have been mostly to the right.  The focus
wasn't as sharp as it should be.  The black lines on the page were a
good contrast in the center of the photo but appeared almost brown
instead of black as they moved outwards away from the center of the
photo.

I was a bit confused at first as I am relatively new to photography.  I
started playing with the image in Photoshop CS2 and Nikon Capture 4.2
until finally I saw that it was the white balance that was causing this
problem.  Once adjusted correctly, the histogram was in its proper
place and the focus of the image was much sharper, the black lines on
the paper were proper and the noisy white paper was nice and white like
it should be.

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> > Even with a low noise camera like this one.  It's not bad, but it will
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> > http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_1136-raw-acr.jpg
 
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