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Kodak screws Olympus!  Oh my God!

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RichA - 15 Oct 2006 01:57 GMT
At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
the E-400 got the shaft.  Back to the drawing board for Olympus.
Supposedly, 3 new DSLRs and the E-3 are on the way.
Alan Browne - 15 Oct 2006 18:50 GMT
> At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
> They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
> the E-400 got the shaft.  Back to the drawing board for Olympus.
> Supposedly, 3 new DSLRs and the E-3 are on the way.

Source of your rumor?

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John Bean - 15 Oct 2006 19:40 GMT
>> At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>> They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
>> the E-400 got the shaft.  Back to the drawing board for Olympus.
>> Supposedly, 3 new DSLRs and the E-3 are on the way.
>
>Source of your rumor?

Kodak??? I thought the E-400 had a Panasonic sensor.

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RichA - 15 Oct 2006 22:12 GMT
> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
> > They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
> > the E-400 got the shaft.  Back to the drawing board for Olympus.
> > Supposedly, 3 new DSLRs and the E-3 are on the way.
>
> Source of your rumor?

Olympus America.
Rudy Benner - 15 Oct 2006 23:21 GMT
>> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>> > They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Olympus America.

Could you back that up? A URL?
Charles Schuler - 16 Oct 2006 00:01 GMT
> Could you back that up? A URL?

Are you kidding?  Asking Rich to document his effluence?
Rudy Benner - 16 Oct 2006 00:16 GMT
>> Could you back that up? A URL?
>
> Are you kidding?  Asking Rich to document his effluence?

That would be a first.
David Kilpatrick - 17 Oct 2006 15:34 GMT
>>>At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>>>They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Olympus America.

The word in the informed trade circles of the UK is that Olympus
previewed the 400D in the USA, were told by their US executives that the
camera was too small for their customers' tastes (big being good in the
USA), and therefore chose to sell it in Europe only where people prefer
small products (small being good in Europe).

Apparently no other reason, given that their sales projections indicated
the initial run would sell out in either region before Christmas and
launching in both would just have created dissatisfaction with delivery
levels and retail presence.

David
Charles Schuler - 15 Oct 2006 22:12 GMT
> At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
> They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
> the E-400 got the shaft.  Back to the drawing board for Olympus.
> Supposedly, 3 new DSLRs and the E-3 are on the way.

"It is therefore no secret that the new CCD image sensor in the E-400 is
provided by Panasonic."

The above can be found at http://www.digit.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=98892

Once again, you posted sensational stuff with no sources.  You are really a
tiresome twit.
John Bean - 15 Oct 2006 22:35 GMT
>You are really a
>tiresome twit.

I wouldn't use those exact (mild) words but I do echo the
sentiment.

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RichA - 16 Oct 2006 01:06 GMT
> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
> > They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Once again, you posted sensational stuff with no sources.  You are really a
> tiresome twit.

What I stated came directly from Olympus you old blowhard.
Charles Schuler - 16 Oct 2006 01:07 GMT
> What I stated came directly from Olympus you old blowhard.

Hey, blow as you like ... post a reference ... a'hole.
Rudy Benner - 16 Oct 2006 03:02 GMT
>> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>> > They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> What I stated came directly from Olympus you old blowhard.

You pulled it out of your a.s.
Mike Fields - 16 Oct 2006 03:26 GMT
>>> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no
>>> > more.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> You pulled it out of your a.s.

Hence the "blowhard"  ;-)
Flyingbull - 16 Oct 2006 13:49 GMT
My Nephew is a manager at Kodak Hemel Hempstead and has told me that i
is not a kodak ccd in the E-400
He does however consider what RichA has stated to be slanderous and ha
noted down this link to show it to Kodaks Solicitors
We will see what develops(no pun intended) in the future
If you wish to contact him RichA with a full explanation on you
behaviour, he can be contacted at
Chris Wright, Marketing Manager UK and Ireland. Address: PO Box 66
Station Road, Hemel Hempstead, Herts HP1 1J

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Charles Schuler - 16 Oct 2006 21:39 GMT
> He does however consider what RichA has stated to be slanderous and has
> noted down this link to show it to Kodaks Solicitors.

It is slander and perhaps this time he has gone too far.
RichA - 16 Oct 2006 23:50 GMT
> > He does however consider what RichA has stated to be slanderous and has
> > noted down this link to show it to Kodaks Solicitors.
>
> It is slander and perhaps this time he has gone too far.

Somehow, even if someone of your character went running off to Kodak
and reported it,
if there is any truth to it, do you think they'd open themselves up to
scrutiny about it?
Sorry Eddie Haskell, you'll have to find some other snake-like way to
amuse yourself.
Charles Schuler - 17 Oct 2006 00:17 GMT
>> > He does however consider what RichA has stated to be slanderous and has
>> > noted down this link to show it to Kodaks Solicitors.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Sorry Eddie Haskell, you'll have to find some other snake-like way to
> amuse yourself.

Slander is a serious issue.  Some Canadians, who know so much more about
geography, could have a rude awakening.
RichA - 17 Oct 2006 00:37 GMT
>>> > He does however consider what RichA has stated to be slanderous and has
>>> > noted down this link to show it to Kodaks Solicitors.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Slander is a serious issue.  Some Canadians, who know so much more about
>geography, could have a rude awakening.

I know that Americans believe it's a God-given right to obtain money
via lawsuits.  All I see on New York local TV are ads by shysters
hocking lawsuit potential for everything from car accidents to drug
trials that went bad.  Somehow, I didn't realize the English could be
as disgusting.
Charles Schuler - 17 Oct 2006 02:21 GMT
> I know that Americans believe it's a God-given right to obtain money
> via lawsuits.  All I see on New York local TV are ads by shysters
> hocking lawsuit potential for everything from car accidents to drug
> trials that went bad.  Somehow, I didn't realize the English could be
> as disgusting.

Given that you live across a single border, you know surprisingly little
about your southern neighbor.  I have been to Canada numerous times and know
that you are very atypical.  I really like the Canadians that I have met and
respect them and am glad to have them as northern neighbors.  (Bunches of
them here in SW FL, by the way, but they are of course senile old farts,
which you disdain).

You do not represent your country at all and, in fact, you do not represent
the human race (at least the part which contributes something ... anything).

Your recent Kodak slam (totally erroneous, by the way) should get very
interesting.  Rumor has it that you might be in deep sh.t.  New York lawyers
are among the most vicious (and most skilled) in the world and Kodak has
several on retainer to deal with issues such as you have raised.  Good luck
... you are going to need it!
RichA - 17 Oct 2006 18:37 GMT
> > I know that Americans believe it's a God-given right to obtain money
> > via lawsuits.  All I see on New York local TV are ads by shysters
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> interesting.  Rumor has it that you might be in deep sh.t.  New York lawyers
> are among the most vicious (and most skilled) in the world

New York lawyers?  Is that "code" for Jews?
Andrey Tarasevich - 17 Oct 2006 19:27 GMT
> ...
> New York lawyers
> are among the most vicious (and most skilled) in the world
> ...

There's no such thing as "lawyers that are most skilled in the _world_".
RichA - 16 Oct 2006 04:20 GMT
>>> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>>> > They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>You pulled it out of your a.s.

Suuurrrrreee I did.  Lets just watch what unfolds at Olympus.  And you
know what?  Even if events bear out what I've said, you pathetic clods
will do one of two things:
1.  Pretend it's due to some other reason.
2.  Pretend you never contradicted what I said I heard.  

Lets SEE what happens when those 2000 (1000 already sold) E-400s are
burned off.
Alan Browne - 17 Oct 2006 15:44 GMT
> What I stated came directly from Olympus you old blowhard.

Cite exact source, quote exact material, with links.

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RichA - 17 Oct 2006 18:40 GMT
> > What I stated came directly from Olympus you old blowhard.
>
> Cite exact source, quote exact material, with links.

Don't jump into something in the middle and expect to comment lucidly.
There ARE no links.  An Olympus America rep told me personally at
a recent photography show.  As for the rep. I didn't see a name tag and
I didn't inquire.
But, they did (unlike the stores) have all the Olympus glass which is
one reason  I went to the show.
Alan Browne - 21 Oct 2006 21:11 GMT
>>>What I stated came directly from Olympus you old blowhard.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> But, they did (unlike the stores) have all the Olympus glass which is
> one reason  I went to the show.

I responded to you very soon after your first post to ask for your
references.  You had none.
I asked again, as clearly as possible.  Again you have nothing.

You continue to reinforce everyone's opinion of you as at best a
crackpot and at worst a troll.
Charles Schuler - 21 Oct 2006 22:15 GMT
>>>>What I stated came directly from Olympus you old blowhard.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> You continue to reinforce everyone's opinion of you as at best a crackpot
> and at worst a troll.

Worse than that, he is a slanderous troll.  Rumor has it that the maligned
party will be taking him to court.
Andrey Tarasevich - 17 Oct 2006 19:35 GMT
> At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
> They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
> the E-400 got the shaft.  Back to the drawing board for Olympus.
> Supposedly, 3 new DSLRs and the E-3 are on the way.

I understand that only a complete moron will ask for a link or reference on
something that is clearly labeled as a rumor, so I won't. But there's still an
obvious issue of the CCD supplier mismatch. How do you explain the fact that
E-400 is known to use Panasonic's sensor, yet your rumor says it's Kodak?
Pete D - 17 Oct 2006 22:24 GMT
>> At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>> They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> that
> E-400 is known to use Panasonic's sensor, yet your rumor says it's Kodak?

Next Rich will be telling us that he heard from Canon that the new 1DsMIII
will be using a 22MP Sony sensor. Onya Rich, your moronosity knows no
limits.
RichA - 18 Oct 2006 04:49 GMT
> >> At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
> >> They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> will be using a 22MP Sony sensor. Onya Rich, your moronosity knows no
> limits.

What if a Canon guy tells me that?
BTW;  According to Canon at the show, a replacement/upgrade for the
1DsMkII is not far in the offing, also, a 40D with a higher pixel count
than the 30.  Nikon would not deny or confirm a FF is on the way.
Pete D - 19 Oct 2006 07:11 GMT
>> >> At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>> >> They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> 1DsMkII is not far in the offing, also, a 40D with a higher pixel count
> than the 30.  Nikon would not deny or confirm a FF is on the way.

All common knowledge.
RichA - 18 Oct 2006 04:47 GMT
> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
> > They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> obvious issue of the CCD supplier mismatch. How do you explain the fact that
> E-400 is known to use Panasonic's sensor, yet your rumor says it's Kodak?

Two days ago, someone said the Panasonic source has never been proven.
Now you say it's a fact.  Where does that come from?  P.S.  What
possible reason would the Olympus guy have for saying "Kodak?"  Does
Olympus keep their underlings that clued-out?
Pete D - 19 Oct 2006 07:10 GMT
>> > At least that's the rumour.  The brand new Olympus E-400 is no more.
>> > They made 2000 of them, Kodak, the CCD supplier F------ up somehow and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> possible reason would the Olympus guy have for saying "Kodak?"  Does
> Olympus keep their underlings that clued-out?

I guess he just realised you are a moron and treated you as such.
 
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