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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / October 2006Help please w monopod or tripod
I am looking for a very light weight - sturdy, compact tripod (packable) w a light compact ball head or a monopod w a light small ball head that I can also use a walking, wading stick. I could also use advice on where to buy it? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Sincerely Fred  SignatureFred Lebow Feisol makes good light weight tripods and monopods. Ball heads are not light weight, and cost as much or more than tripod/monopod. www.alldigital.fotopic.net > Feisol makes good light weight tripods and monopods. Ball heads are not > light weight, and cost as much or more than tripod/monopod. > www.alldigital.fotopic.net For a monopod, as to ball head, I'd think the added weight would, uh, er, outweigh the advantage of such a head. But I just screw my 70-200 lens mount directly onto the top of the mono. SignatureJohn McWilliams > For a monopod, as to ball head, I'd think the added weight would, uh, > er, outweigh the advantage of such a head. But I just screw my 70-200 > lens mount directly onto the top of the mono. Such a waste when it's proper to use an Arca Swiss in this application. You aren't realizing the full potential of your 70-200 without one. Rita >> For a monopod, as to ball head, I'd think the added weight would, uh, >> er, outweigh the advantage of such a head. But I just screw my 70-200 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You > aren't realizing the full potential of your 70-200 without one. Such a waste of bandwidth; stop following me around!! And learn grammar! In addition to it's, we can have hi's, her's and their's!!! -- john mcwilliams >> Such a waste when it's proper to use an Arca Swiss in this >> application. You >> aren't realizing the full potential of your 70-200 without one. > > Such a waste of bandwidth; stop following me around!! And learn > grammar! LOL! Don't flatter yourself; I'm just doing a public service by stimulating an idiot into conscious thought. Wake up! Rita > Such a waste of bandwidth; stop following me around!! And learn grammar! > > In addition to it's, we can have hi's, her's and their's!!! Perhaps you should learn grammar; "it's" was perfectly correct. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com >> Such a waste of bandwidth; stop following me around!! And learn grammar! >> >> In addition to it's, we can have hi's, her's and their's!!! > > Perhaps you should learn grammar; "it's" was perfectly correct. It was a trap to see if "Rita" had the courage of his convictions to stick up for himself. See if you can find another gaffe in a nearby post. <s.> SignatureJohn McWilliams This space intentionally left blank, except for these words. > It was a trap to see if "Rita" had the courage of his convictions to > stick up for himself. Hey, I'm the one pulling your strings. I like it when you admit that I get under your skin. Rita >> It was a trap to see if "Rita" had the courage of his convictions to >> stick up for himself. > > Hey, I'm the one pulling your strings. I like it when you admit that I > get under your skin. Ah, yes, another classic case of projection.... One difference: I can stop when I want; you cannot. lsmft >> Hey, I'm the one pulling your strings. I like it when you admit >> that I get under your skin. > > Ah, yes, another classic case of projection.... > > One difference: I can stop when I want; you cannot. The fixation you have on me won't allow it. Rita >> For a monopod, as to ball head, I'd think the added weight would, uh, >> er, outweigh the advantage of such a head. But I just screw my 70-200 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You > aren't realizing the full potential of your 70-200 without one. Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. Greg > Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. Hey, this is between John and I. I'm trying to get him to start thinking for himself. Rita >> Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. > > Hey, this is between John and I. I'm trying to get him to start > thinking for himself. If this isn't a public discussion then take it to email. Greg >Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. The most stable position with a monopod is to form a tripod with your own legs. The monopod extends at an angle in front of you, and therefore the camera needs to be angled "down", which is easily done with even a cheap ballhead. SignatureFloyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com >> Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. > > The most stable position with a monopod is to form a tripod with > your own legs. The monopod extends at an angle in front of you, > and therefore the camera needs to be angled "down", which is > easily done with even a cheap ballhead. Well, since I was traveling lightly to China I debated whether to bring my ballhead with the monopod I borrowed from a co-worker. In the end I'm glad I didn't add the weight. I sure got a lot of stares from security in train stations and one guy asked what it was. I probably should have had it extended and been using it as a walking stick. Greg > Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. I can't even imagine using a monopod without a head. Movement is too restricted. I guess if you're standing on the sidelines shooting sports, where everything you shoot is going to be in just the right orientation, it would be fine, but for general shooting I'd sooner go handheld than use a monopod without a head. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com > I can't even imagine using a monopod without a head. Movement is too > restricted. I guess if you're standing on the sidelines shooting > sports, where everything you shoot is going to be in just the right > orientation, it would be fine, but for general shooting I'd sooner go > handheld than use a monopod without a head. You got that right! Rita >>> For a monopod, as to ball head, I'd think the added weight would, uh, >>> er, outweigh the advantage of such a head. But I just screw my 70-200 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Greg It's kind of 'odd looking' when taking 'portrait' pictures with your monopod pointing sideways. Don't you think so? A bit dangerous to, i think. kr Aad >>>> For a monopod, as to ball head, I'd think the added weight would, uh, >>>> er, outweigh the advantage of such a head. But I just screw my 70-200 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It's kind of 'odd looking' when taking 'portrait' pictures with your monopod > pointing sideways. Don't you think so? A bit dangerous to, i think. For those with lenses mounted on a monopod, it's a simple matter to turn the lens in the ring; takes about a second. I have 0 need for a ballhead combined with the lens I use regularly on the mono. I could see, though, the benefits for using same at other times, with another lens. SignatureJohn McWilliams >> It's kind of 'odd looking' when taking 'portrait' pictures with your >> monopod pointing sideways. Don't you think so? A bit dangerous to, i >> think. > > For those with lenses mounted on a monopod, it's a simple matter to > turn the lens in the ring; takes about a second. Sure, we can rotate the lens in the collar, but that only works if you are shooting posters plastered to a wall. For Christ's sake learn how to use your camera. > I have 0 need for a ballhead combined with the lens I use regularly on > the mono. I could see, though, the benefits for using same at other > times, with another lens. Total foolishness! You are missing out on so much potential the 70-200 and a monopod with a ballhead can give you. Throw a set of tubes on the 70-200 and do some natural low light macro on a monopod without a ballhead and you will suffer. Stop being pigheaded and buy a damn Arca Swiss and start enjoying your camera. Rita >>Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. > > It's kind of 'odd looking' when taking 'portrait' pictures with your monopod > pointing sideways. Don't you think so? A bit dangerous to, i think. I have a Manfrotto monopod head that tilts 90°. I find it awkward for portrait orientation. With the 80-200 f/2.8 I use the collar to rotate, but with other lenses, I use the monopod head. I've also used a ballhead on a monopod and that works reasonably well but gets near comedic with a colar if you forget to tighten it before you loosen the ball head... other than that it works fine. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > Please explain the benefits of using a ballhead on a monopod. Compared to no head at all, it is fine. I used a Manfrotto ballhead on a monopod for a couple years before buying a monopod head for the monopod. It is "better" in the sense that it is more compact and easier to use for portrait mode (except for colared lenses). A monopod head is of course less weight and more compact, but a ballhead is very workable. The only reasons I succumbed to buying the monopod head were that they are not expensive and I sold a spare ballhead off for somewhat more than the price of the monopod head. Absent those conditions I would not have bothered. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > I am looking for a very light weight - sturdy, compact tripod (packable) w > a light compact ball head [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Sincerely > Fred Fred - I have a Gitzo Monotrek that seems to fit your need. It collapses to 31.5 inches (80 cm) with the ball head. The tip is small but it comes with an easily lost snowpack "cup" that fits over the tip if you need it to be wider. I have no idea HOW sturdy you need it to be or what wading with it will do to the thing but I like it. -Guy >I am looking for a very light weight - sturdy, compact tripod (packable) w > a light compact ball head [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. How sturdy and how light? The carbon fiber Manfrotto tripods are very nice but not cheap. They also have a very small ball head (model 482)--the head won't hold a huge amount of weight but should hold a 35mm or DSLR with a reasonable lens. If you are looking for a walking stick that can double as a monopod take a look at the Leki Horizon or Sierra (Horizon's taller as a monopod, Sierra's lighter and a little cheaper)--they're similar to my ancient Traxx (no longer made as far as I can tell) but with a better shaft--there's a knob on top that screws off to reveal a standard 1/4" mounting screw onto which the Manfrotto 482 micro ball head screws very nicely. As to where to buy, not sure right now--B&H is on their holiday shutdown, if you can wait until after the 15th they'd be a good source for anything Manfrotto. As for Leki, try Black Creek Outfitters <http://www.blackcreekoutfitters.com>. > "Fred Lebow" <flebow@bigsky.net> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > screws off to reveal a standard 1/4" mounting screw onto which the Manfrotto > 482 micro ball head screws very nicely. I got a compact Linhof ball head which is actually strong enough to hold a big lens so it's all I need. It gets a bit more bulky with quick release plate mounted. The small head does make it easier to pack: <http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/2006-10-09-tripod> http://www.linhof.de/english/zubehor/stativkoepfe/kugelkoepfe.html SignaturePaul Furman http://www.edgehill.net/1 Bay Natives http://www.baynatives.com > I am looking for a very light weight - sturdy, compact tripod (packable) w > a light compact ball head > or a monopod w a light small ball head that I can also use a walking, > wading stick. > I could also use advice on where to buy it? Why not just buy a small ball head and fasten it to your favorite walking stick? On Oct 9, 10:14 pm, "cjcampbell" <christophercampb...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I am looking for a very light weight - sturdy, compact tripod (packable) w > > a light compact ball head > > or a monopod w a light small ball head that I can also use a walking, > > wading stick. > > I could also use advice on where to buy it?Why not just buy a small ball head and fasten it to your favorite > walking stick? I bought this (the 3216 with 3232), and am very happy with it. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=3&mnp=0.0&mxp=0.0& cmpsrch=&cltp=&clsgr=&shs=&ci=397&ac=&Submit.x=10&Submit.y=8 Not sure if this link will work, but at B&H, search for Bogen/Manfrotto monopods. IMHO, the swivel head works better on a monopod. |
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