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Adobe releases new Camera Raw 3.6 Beta

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G-Man - 06 Oct 2006 17:50 GMT
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3544

The following new cameras are supported by this update.

a.. Canon EOS 400D / Rebel XTi

a.. Leica D-LUX3

a.. Leica Digilux 3

a.. Nikon D80

a.. Panasonic DMC-LX2

a.. Pentax K100D

G-Man
Rudy Benner - 06 Oct 2006 18:59 GMT
> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3544
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> G-Man

There is also a new DNG converter, look in the New Downloads link on the
same page, toward the right, might as well get them both.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/new.jsp

Thanks for the notification, G-Man.
Rod Williams - 06 Oct 2006 20:04 GMT
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Do the newer versions ever make improvements or changes to the already
supported RAW cameras?
Holley - 06 Oct 2006 21:54 GMT
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> Do the newer versions ever make improvements or changes to the already
> supported RAW cameras?

I hear that sometimes there are undocumented improvements included in the
Camera Raw plug-in. However; unless my camera required the upgrade, I would
wait for the official release. I monitor the Adobe forums, and usually wait
a couple of weeks before applying any upgrades. YMMV
Pete D - 07 Oct 2006 00:55 GMT
Bugger, no Pentax K10D. :-(

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John Francis - 07 Oct 2006 01:10 GMT
You don't need explicit K10D support in Camera Raw - the camera
can already use DNGs natively as the format for its RAW images.

>Bugger, no Pentax K10D. :-(
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Pete D - 07 Oct 2006 01:41 GMT
While that is true native RAW is still the better choice, that way there
will be no in camera conversion to DNG. DNG will of course be a great choice
until RAW is suppoted.

> You don't need explicit K10D support in Camera Raw - the camera
> can already use DNGs natively as the format for its RAW images.
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G.T. - 07 Oct 2006 01:56 GMT
> While that is true native RAW is still the better choice, that way there
> will be no in camera conversion to DNG. DNG will of course be a great choice
> until RAW is suppoted.

And you know for a fact that there is a camera conversion to DNG, i.e. it
doesn't write a DNG file in one step?  That doesn't make much sense.

Greg

> > You don't need explicit K10D support in Camera Raw - the camera
> > can already use DNGs natively as the format for its RAW images.
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Pete D - 07 Oct 2006 08:40 GMT
>> While that is true native RAW is still the better choice, that way there
>> will be no in camera conversion to DNG. DNG will of course be a great
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> Greg

All guessing of course, as you are. Don't actually care really.
John Francis - 07 Oct 2006 02:12 GMT
You seem to be confused as to just what DNG is.
There is no "conversion" to DNG; the K10D is capable of
using DNG as a native RAW format.  This will contain exactly
the same information as a Pentax RAW (PEF) file - no more,
no less.  In particular, it still has the 12-bit sensor
values, unmodified - no demosaicing algorithm, etc. applied.

A big advantage of using DNG is that there's no need to wait
for an update of your favourite RAW converter - any well-
written application (which, sadly, does not seem to include
iPhoto, Aperture, or Raw Shooter) will automatically be able
to read the DNG files from the K10D.

>While that is true native RAW is still the better choice, that way there
>will be no in camera conversion to DNG. DNG will of course be a great choice
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>>>> G-Man
Pete D - 07 Oct 2006 08:40 GMT
The RAW data will still need to wrapped in the DNG package so that it can be
recognised as such.

> You seem to be confused as to just what DNG is.
> There is no "conversion" to DNG; the K10D is capable of
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Barry Pearson - 08 Oct 2006 17:21 GMT
> The RAW data will still need to wrapped in the DNG package so that it can be
> recognised as such.
[snip]

Wrapping the raw image data into PEFs, or into DNGs, are similar tasks.
It isn't a matter of PEFs being a primary format and DNGs being a
derived format. They are BOTH raw file formats capable of holding the
primary image data, independently of one-another.

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