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Nikon Software - any good?

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Gerrit 't Hart - 05 Oct 2006 03:56 GMT
I have just bought a D50.
Enclosed is a CD with some software.

I have had bad experience with Kodak software enclosed with a P&S so was
wondering whether it is worth my while installing the Nikon software. Can
someone advise, please?

If some of it is good which bits should I install?

Thanks in advance.

Gerrit - Oz
cjcampbell - 05 Oct 2006 05:41 GMT
> I have just bought a D50.
> Enclosed is a CD with some software.
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>
> If some of it is good which bits should I install?

It is not particularly good software. Capture NX is pretty good; it has
some innovative area adjustments. But PictureProject is not as good as
either Picasa 2.0 (for Windows) or iPhoto (for Mac), which are free, or
Photoshop Elements, which is not very expensive. Nikon Capture 4.2 is
not very good, either.

One thing, though: the RAW converters are pretty good -- Nikon does
know how they want those NEF files rendered. However, the Nikon
Photoshop RAW converters are not as flexible as those included in
Photoshop CS2, even if they do render a better looking image at their
default settings.
Jeremy Nixon - 05 Oct 2006 06:43 GMT
> I have had bad experience with Kodak software enclosed with a P&S so was
> wondering whether it is worth my while installing the Nikon software. Can
> someone advise, please?

Capture has one use: if you want to do raw conversions so the pictures
look like they would have looked straight out of the camera, without much
tweaking, and get good results.  You won't get that with Photoshop, for
example.  But Photoshop trounces it in all other areas.  Well, not all;
Capture can convert fisheye shots from the 10.5mm to rectilinear, if
you're into that sort of thing.

The other stuff is throwaway.

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Richard Karash - 05 Oct 2006 21:07 GMT
> > I have had bad experience with Kodak software enclosed with a P&S so was
> > wondering whether it is worth my while installing the Nikon software. Can
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> Capture can convert fisheye shots from the 10.5mm to rectilinear, if
> you're into that sort of thing.

I understand the old Nikon Capture 4.x would control the camera when
connected by USB... Hit a key to take a shot and bring it right to the
computer.  This would be handy when it's hard to look through the
camera eyepiece, perhaps when focusing an extreme macro shot, and a few
other times.

Does Capture NX still provide this feature?

  -=- Rick

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Joan - 06 Oct 2006 14:09 GMT
It's split into 2 programs.  One for editing and one for capturing.
$$$$

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: I understand the old Nikon Capture 4.x would control the camera when
: connected by USB... Hit a key to take a shot and bring it right to the
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Richard Karash - 07 Oct 2006 14:48 GMT
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> : I understand the old Nikon Capture 4.x would control the camera when
> : connected by USB... Hit a key to take a shot and bring it right to the
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> It's split into 2 programs.  One for editing and one for capturing.
> $$$$

OK, I understand it's two programs. Is the feature "computer controls
camera" still part of the package in either part?

  -=- Rick

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Joan - 07 Oct 2006 15:09 GMT
Yes.  Camera Control Pro
http://www.nikonmall.com/searchresults.asp?dept_id=147&searchcat=Digital+Imaging
+Products%3E&searchcatid=3


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Richard Karash - 10 Oct 2006 01:24 GMT
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> controls
> : camera" still part of the package in either part?

> Yes.  Camera Control Pro
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> http://www.nikonmall.com/searchresults.asp?dept_id=147&searchcat=Digital+Imagi
> ng+Products%3E&searchcatid=3

Thanks, Joan.  Slightly cryptic, but I think I've got it:
- Transform 10.5mm FishEye to rectilinear perspective is in Capture NX
- Control the camera from your computer is in Camera Control Pro
- Both were in Nikon Capture 4.

Many thanks.

  -=- Rick

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Adrian Boliston - 05 Oct 2006 09:44 GMT
>I have just bought a D50.
> Enclosed is a CD with some software.
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>
> Gerrit - Oz

Picture Project is pretty useless - you are much better off downloading
Nikon View (free software) direct from Nikon.  I like Nikon Capture 4, but
have not tried capture NX.

-Adrian www.boliston.co.uk
Neil Harrington - 05 Oct 2006 18:44 GMT
>I have just bought a D50.
> Enclosed is a CD with some software.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.

It's fashionable to badmouth Nikon Picture Project (as you can see), but
it's actually very good software for its intended purpose -- which is *not*
intensive, high-end image editing. Try it for yourself before taking others'
advice to throw it away. I'm beginning to wonder how many of the people
sneering at PP have actually used the current 1.6 version.

I cannot understand the advice given you to download Nikon View instead.
That's software of limited utility in my opinion, and I think Picture
Project will do more for you while being easier to use. But since Nikon View
*is* a free download, you can try it and see if you like it.

When and if you're ready for more advanced image editing software there are
several good choices, but be prepared for a much steeper learning curve when
you get into that sort of thing. I use Paint Shop Pro myself, but really for
the fast-and-easy stuff I just use Nikon Picture Project and am happy with
it.

Neil
Adrian Boliston - 05 Oct 2006 21:20 GMT
> It's fashionable to badmouth Nikon Picture Project (as you can see), but
> it's actually very good software for its intended purpose -- which is
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Project will do more for you while being easier to use. But since Nikon
> View *is* a free download, you can try it and see if you like it.

The thing that annoyed me about Picture Project was that it would not allow
me to browse my photos by their original directory hierachy.  Instead it
forced me to "import" my photos into "galleries" totally unrelated to the
way they are stored within windows xp.   Nikon View also includes a good
basic editor called "Nikon Editor" which is a basic version of Nikon Capture
which I would probably use had I not purchased Capture, although I don't
think it gives the same exact control of raw settings like White Balance,
but it is free.
Neil Harrington - 06 Oct 2006 06:32 GMT
>> It's fashionable to badmouth Nikon Picture Project (as you can see), but
>> it's actually very good software for its intended purpose -- which is
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> Instead it forced me to "import" my photos into "galleries" totally
> unrelated to the way they are stored within windows xp.

Well, I agree with you there. That doesn't bother me too much since I have
photos from several different cameras on different computers that are in a
mess as far as organization is concerned anyway. But I don't really care for
PP's system of doing that either. I haven't really settled on an album
program I like yet, but am trying Corel's now.

> Nikon View also includes a good basic editor called "Nikon Editor" which
> is a basic version of Nikon Capture which I would probably use had I not
> purchased Capture, although I don't think it gives the same exact control
> of raw settings like White Balance, but it is free.

I probably should explore Nikon View more thoroughly, but since I use other
software anyway for more serious image editing it just never seemed
important to me. For quick and easy editing of snapshots etc. Picture
Project seems to me quicker and easier to use; its D-Lighting feature is
actually quite useful sometimes and Nikon View doesn't have that as far as I
can tell.

Neil
yubbers9@yahoo.com - 10 Oct 2006 03:25 GMT
Capture NX is so-so, it's tedious at times.

Nikon Capture 4 is useful for doing time lapse movies.
Really what Nikon should have done is put a
time lapse program inside the camera.
Paul Furman - 10 Oct 2006 16:16 GMT
> Capture NX is so-so, it's tedious at times.
>
> Nikon Capture 4 is useful for doing time lapse movies.
> Really what Nikon should have done is put a
> time lapse program inside the camera.

The D200 has this feature and I've used it to good effect. Much simpler
than setting up a laptop for hours in the field.

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