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Fuji S5  14bit A/D

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RichA - 26 Sep 2006 02:33 GMT
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06092502fujifilms5pro.asp#specs
darrell.larose@gmail.com - 29 Sep 2006 03:30 GMT
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06092502fujifilms5pro.asp#specs

Odd the new Pentax K10D has a 22 bit ADC....

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d

The Pentax K10D is the camera the Nikon D80 "should have been"

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G.T. - 29 Sep 2006 06:24 GMT
>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06092502fujifilms5pro.asp#specs
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> The Pentax K10D is the camera the Nikon D80 "should have been"

I finally looked at the K10D preview and I see it's got a choice between
PEF and DNG.  Very nice.  Hopefully the other manufacturers will follow
suit.

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Michael Schnell - 02 Oct 2006 08:47 GMT
>> Odd the new Pentax K10D has a 22 bit ADC....

I don't think that 22 Bit makes much sense, as the sensor noise limits
the accuracy to much less than 1:2**22.

OTOH the report states that JPEG conversion limits the accuracy to 8
Bit. That is not true as JPEG format is stored gamma corrected and this
increases the accuracy by 2 to 4 bits in the dark areas. So 12 to 14x
Bits seems like a good compromise, offering enough headroom.

-Michael
acl - 02 Oct 2006 14:22 GMT
>>> Odd the new Pentax K10D has a 22 bit ADC....
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I think it's more relevant that if the full well capacity is, say, 80000
electrons, then 17 bits are enough to count every single one. Not many
DSLR sensor will have a full well capacity over that. And in terms of
accuracy, using more bits in the AD converter will not offer any advantage.

There might be advantage to more bits when doing manipulations on the
data, but one could still use a 17 bit converter and then switch to eg
22 bit representations (there might be rounding errors, though I have no
clue as to the preactical aspects of this).
Alan Browne - 29 Sep 2006 16:13 GMT
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06092502fujifilms5pro.asp#specs

First class camera, no doubt, but surprising that they didn't up the
ante to at least 8 Mpix.

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RichA - 30 Sep 2006 22:23 GMT
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06092502fujifilms5pro.asp#specs
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>First class camera, no doubt, but surprising that they didn't up the
>ante to at least 8 Mpix.

Someone suggested it could have been Nikon forcing their hand owing to
their use of the D200 body.  Otherwise, it could be Fuji who like
Sigma have claimed higher resolution than traditional CCD/CMOS sensors
for a given pixel count.  I'm sure it will be a nice camera, but I
wonder why Fuji is avoiding the entry-level?  Could it be they've
surmised the mindset of the entry-level buyer is solely geared toward
more megapixels as a sole determinant of quality?
 
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