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D200 Custom/Shooting menu banks
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Paul Furman - 17 Sep 2006 20:16 GMT OK I'm finally getting around (trying to) figure out the menu banks on my D200. I'm not getting it though. There are two kinds of memory banks (I had initially thought only one???):
*Shooting menu bank* [camera icon menu] - folders - file naming - optimise image (sharpening, tone, color mode, saturation, hue) - color space - image quality - image size - jpeg compression - raw compression - white balance - long exposure NR - high ISO NR - ISO sensitivity - [image overlay & multiple exposure?] - interval timer (count, interval, start delay) - non-cpu lens data - *Custom Setting menu bank* [pencil icon menu] - Auto Focus - AF-C mode priority (FPS, FPS+AF, focus) - AF-S mode priority (focus, release) - Metering/Exposure - ISO auto (off, on, max sensitivity, min shutter speed) - ISO step value (1/3, 1/2, 1) - EV step (1/3, 1/2, 1) - Exp Comp fine tune (1/3, 1/2, 1) - Exp Comp (on, off) - center weight diamerter - fine tune exposure - Timers/AE&AF lock - AE lock (on, off) - AE-L/AF-L - Auto meter shutoff time - Self timer wait - monitor off timer - Shooting Display - beep - grid display - viewfinder warning - grid display - exposure delay mode (MLU) - file no. sequence - LCD illumination - batteries - Bracketing/Flash - flash synch speed - flash shutter speed - built in flash (TTL, manual, repeating - modelling - auto bracket (AE & flash, AE only, WB bracketing) - manual mode bkting (flash/speed, flash/speed/aperture, flash/aperture, flash only) - auto bracket order - auto bracket selection (manual, preset) - Controls - multi-selector center button function - multi-selector - multi-selector role in playback - FUNC button (flash value lock, flash value/lens data, 1 step spd/apertur, same as AE-L/AF-L, flash off, bracketing burst, matrix metering, center weighted, spot metering, focus area frame)
Now, if I switch to Bank B for each of these, everything is back to defaults, and any changes I made are saved to mode A... so what I want is to save my defaults in A & B, and A gets constantly fiddled with, B is reserved to reset all my defaults for normal shooting & I'm careful not to change anything there, C, D & E I can set for situations like night shooting or high ISO, or interval small image size, no RAW. But it's a pain that I have to go through & change everything like 'optimise image' etc for each Bank. And I may have to change both banks for certain custom situations... and remember to set them back to A if I'm planning to fiddle around.
What I'd like is press the func button & twirl the command dial to bring up ABCD and as soon as I make a change, it becomes A~ (unsaved) on the top LCD... if I want to save that, I have to manually save it otherwise it is remembered when turning the camera off but I can still get to my custom banks unmodified.
Then just to be clear, there are certain settings that cannot be stored, which are fixed to manual knobs and dials: AF mode AE mode Shooting mode - Single, ContinuousLow, ContinuousHigh, Timer & MirrorUP Focus-mode - Single, Continuous, Manual
And some references from the manual:
*Shooting Menu Bank* All shooting menu options are stored in one of four banks. Changes to settings in one bank have no eff ect on the others. To store a particular combination of frequently-used settings, select one of the four banks (the default bank is bank A) and set the camera to these settings. The new settings will be stored in the bank even when the camera is turned off , and will be restored the next time the bank is selected. Different combinations of settings can be stored in the other banks, allowing the user to switch instantly from one combination to another by selecting the appropriate bank from the bank menu. The default names for the four shooting menu banks are A, B, C, and D. A descriptive caption can be added using the Rename option.
*Custom Setting Bank* Custom Settings are stored in one of four banks. Changes to settings in one bank have no effect on the others. To store a particular combination of frequently-used settings, select one of the four banks and set the camera to these settings. The new settings will be stored in the bank even when the camera is turned off , and will be restored the next time the bank is selected. Diff erent combinations of settings can be stored in the other banks, allowing the user to switch instantly from one combination to another by selecting the appropriate bank from the bank menu. The default names for the four Custom Settings banks are A, B, C, and D. A descriptive caption can be added using the Rename option as described in “The Shooting Menu: Shooting Menu Bank” ( 125).
Also some notes about resetting:
White Balance Presets Changes to white balance presets apply to all shooting menu banks ( 125). A confirmation dialog will be displayed if the user attempts to change a white balance preset created in another shooting menu bank (no warning is displayed for preset d-0).
Shooting Menu Banks Changes to interval timer settings apply to all shooting menu banks (125). If shooting menu settings are reset using the Menu Reset item in the shooting menu ( 127), interval timer settings will be reset as follows: • Start time: Now • Interval: 00:01´:00˝ • Number of intervals: 1 • Number of shots: 1 • Start: Off
Two-Button Reset ...Only settings in the bank cur rent ly selected using the Shooting Menu Bank option will be reset (125). Settings in the remaining banks are unaffected. Option Default Image Quality JPEG Normal Image Size Large Option Default White Balance Auto* ISO Sensitivity 100 * Fine-tuning reset to 0.
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Paul Furman - 17 Sep 2006 23:29 GMT > OK I'm finally getting around (trying to) figure out the menu banks > on my D200. I'm not getting it though. There are two kinds of memory > banks (I had initially thought only one???): To clarify, the way I understand it works is you set the bank menus A, B, C, D in the LCD menu and any changes you make are retained while in that Bank. This means re-doing common settings for each bank. So I'll need to get the page with the list of default settings & write down the common custom defaults I want.
Custom Banks I might set up are:
*Shooting menu bank* A. Adjustable (last used) B. Defaults (don't change) - file naming ("PBF" -my initials instead of "DSC" prefix) - optimise image (minimize all for generic low contrast jpeg) - color space (SRGB) - raw compression (ON) - long exposure NR (off) C. Night shooting -high ISO (or is this only set on the buttons?) D. Interval - interval timer (count, interval, start delay) -small image size -no RAW, basic (set manually with buttons & knobs)
*Custom Setting menu bank* A. Adjustable (last used) B. Defaults (don't change) - Shooting Display - beep (off) - grid display (on) - exposure delay mode (MLU) - file no. sequence (on) - Controls - FUNC button (spot metering) C. Night shooting -dark frame subtraction noise reduction on
Hmm, maybe one way to think of it is
> *Shooting menu bank* [camera icon menu] > - folders [quoted text clipped - 140 lines] > ISO Sensitivity 100 > * Fine-tuning reset to 0.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 17 Sep 2006 23:39 GMT > To clarify, the way I understand it works is you set the bank menus A, > B, C, D in the LCD menu and any changes you make are retained while in > that Bank. This means re-doing common settings for each bank. So I'll > need to get the page with the list of default settings & write down > the common custom defaults I want. All default settings are listed in your manual so don't worry about that. Set each pair of banks up to what you want and name them what you feel best. You can also do custom curves and upload to any bank you like via Capture control. Also, you can back all these settings up to a computer.
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Paul Furman - 18 Sep 2006 00:06 GMT >> To clarify, the way I understand it works is you set the bank menus A, >> B, C, D in the LCD menu and any changes you make are retained while in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You can also do custom curves and upload to any bank you like via Capture > control. Also, you can back all these settings up to a computer. I guess Capture is the way to go with setting these up. Does the D70 USB plug work on a D200?
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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 18 Sep 2006 00:18 GMT >> All default settings are listed in your manual so don't worry about >> that. Set each pair of banks up to what you want and name them what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I guess Capture is the way to go with setting these up. Does the D70 > USB plug work on a D200? You can set everything but curves via the D200 menu. Yes, the D70 and any other USB plug works in there since it's standard. Also, you can set everything via computer and Capture.
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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 18 Sep 2006 10:24 GMT >> I guess Capture is the way to go with setting these up. Does the D70 >> USB plug work on a D200? > >You can set everything but curves via the D200 menu. Yes, the D70 and any >other USB plug works in there since it's standard. Also, you can set >everything via computer and Capture. Not all. I know for a fact the Coolpix cable will not work. All the dslr cables are the same, however.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 18 Sep 2006 23:07 GMT Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
>> You can set everything but curves via the D200 menu. Yes, the D70 >> and any other USB plug works in there since it's standard. Also, >> you can set everything via computer and Capture. > > Not all. I know for a fact the Coolpix cable will not work. All the > dslr cables are the same, however. Yep, you are correct. I should have clarified that all *small* USB plugs will work since this is the industry standard size. This USB cable will fit all Nikon dSLRs, Epson P-2000, and various MP3 devices I have floating around. This is not a Nikon only cable since I use one cable for everything.
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Paul Furman - 18 Sep 2006 15:24 GMT > Hmm, maybe one way to think of it is... You know, I don't think these are really helpful, they only would be if I had custom situations with two or more setting changes, then it's still unlikely I wouldn't make some other change and, then I have to remember to set that back when I'm done.
What I was starting to say above is one way to think of it is... have a bank for time-lapse shooting and a bank for bright and dim light then each of those evolves and retains what I was doing last but the truth is there just aren't enough custom settings to justify that. I still have to remember to change two bank settings and some manual knob stuff, it's clearer to simply go make those individual 3 or 4 changes rather than bury them in custom banks.
What would be nice is if I could store my camera defaults and recall those to one or two standard settings from one memory bank but this doesn't work that way. Perhaps it would be quick enough to do with Capture, and with Capture I'd be able to store/reset my defaults but still, I'm not going to have Capture running in the field.
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