> It all depends on your use... I have the Sony 18-200 which I use as
> an all
> purpose 'walking around' lens, one advantage is I never have to
> change lenses so
> I avoid dust...
Avoid dust?
Hmm...the lense isn't sealed and zooming has a tendency to "pump" air
in and out. How is that better? And the amount of dust that gets
inside when changing lenses in an average environment is negligible
anyway. I'd have to say you're really no further ahead.
I mean c'mon, look inside your camera and tell me how the dust gets on
the sensor when the shutter is open only ~0.00001% of the time the
camera is actually in use? It's not like the sensor is exposed all the
time.
This "dust scare" being marketed by companies is almost as bad as the
twits in homeland security saying there's going to be a terrorist
attact. They don't know where or when or who or how, but as long as
they say it'll happen, everyone feels much safer being told that they
don't really know what they say they know.
> wanted to take more 'serious' photos I would use a prime lens, (no
> zoom)
What's wrong with zooms?
I have one here beside me that I would have no issues putting up
against primes in the same focal range.
Granted primes are great optically...but I'd rather carry a 70-200
zoom that will cover a lot more for me than a 100 or 200mm prime that
is more limited. The very slight difference in optical quality (not
visible in most cases) is well worth the trade off in convenience.
Just my opinion though.
David J Taylor - 18 Sep 2006 07:53 GMT
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> What's wrong with zooms?
Small maximum aperture, sometimes as small as f/5.6, compared to the f/1.8
prime lenses which BobF mentioned. Makes a considerable difference to
light capture, ease of focus, ease of viewing, bokeh etc.
David
Bill - 18 Sep 2006 09:04 GMT
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>> What's wrong with zooms?
>
>Small maximum aperture, sometimes as small as f/5.6, compared to the f/1.8
>prime lenses which BobF mentioned. Makes a considerable difference to
>light capture, ease of focus, ease of viewing, bokeh etc.
And who said we had to use crappy zooms?
My lenses happen to be f/4, but a friend of mine has mostly f/2.8 zooms,
and in my experience, the f/1.8 lenses pretty much suck wide open and
only match the 2.8 versions stopped down, so why bother?
For the viewfinder brightness, I agree. But most of the rest is hype.
Nobody in their right mind shoots an f/1.8 or better wide open unless
they really need the tight DOF or they're working in ultra low light and
are willing to sacrifice sharpness and distortion to get the shot.
By the way, I happen to have an f/1.8 50mm.
Pete Kendrick - 18 Sep 2006 20:50 GMT
Thanks for the advice, everyone!!
I think, perhaps, as suggested by BobF I may go for a general 'walking
around' lens such as the Sony 18-200mm. And as I'm going to start evening
classes next week on using Photoshop (fantastic, I'm a student again at
38!!) I'm sure I'll figure out how to correct any barrel distortion.
Sometime in the future I'm sure (finance permitting, I've only just bought
the Sony Alpha and all the relevant gubbins) I'll want to broaden my
expertise by buying specific lenses for specific jobs.
Thanks again.
Pete
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>>> What's wrong with zooms?
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> By the way, I happen to have an f/1.8 50mm.
BobF@nonono.com - 19 Sep 2006 00:40 GMT
>> It all depends on your use... I have the Sony 18-200 which I use as
>> an all
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>Hmm...the lense isn't sealed and zooming has a tendency to "pump" air
>in and out. How is that better?
Are you kidding?? Not sealed? As in "open camera sitting on a table" ?? Wow
you're really pushing the sh.t! How about a 10 second exposure on a telescope?
Ever seen the dust bunny's that fall out of telescopes?
> And the amount of dust that gets
>inside when changing lenses in an average environment is negligible
>anyway. I'd have to say you're really no further ahead.
I returned the first Nikon I bought because there was already 2 dust spots on
the sensor, and I wanted a clean new camera. The Nikon I now have, 2 1/2 years
old, has had lots of dust, which I blow off. There are a few small pieces
left... one was quite large, not even Adobe would eliminate it.
>I mean c'mon, look inside your camera and tell me how the dust gets on
>the sensor when the shutter is open only ~0.00001% of the time the
>camera is actually in use? It's not like the sensor is exposed all the
>time.
So no DSLR sensor's have any dust? Are you retarded?
>This "dust scare" being marketed by companies is almost as bad as the
>twits in homeland security saying there's going to be a terrorist
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>
>What's wrong with zooms?
They are generally cheap and have poor light gathering ability. To get the same
F number in a zoom that is found in a $400 prime, you would need to spend maybe
$5000, which the OP isn't likely to do. Nor I since I haven't yet spent $2k on
Nikon lenses and have almost all I need.
>I have one here beside me that I would have no issues putting up
>against primes in the same focal range.
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>is more limited. The very slight difference in optical quality (not
>visible in most cases) is well worth the trade off in convenience.
apples and oranges...
>Just my opinion though.
sure is...