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The irony of plastic use in DSLRs and other cameras

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RichA - 15 Sep 2006 00:57 GMT
What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
which uses glass in it's construction.  The only part of a camera where
it would actually make SENSE to use plastic, and it's not available!!!
Pete D - 15 Sep 2006 01:59 GMT
> What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
> technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
> which uses glass in it's construction.  The only part of a camera where
> it would actually make SENSE to use plastic, and it's not available!!!

Oh look Rich, your fly is undone!
Paul J Gans - 18 Sep 2006 21:45 GMT
>> What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
>> technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
>> which uses glass in it's construction.  The only part of a camera where
>> it would actually make SENSE to use plastic, and it's not available!!!

>Oh look Rich, your fly is undone!

Is it plastic?

   ----- Paul J. Gans
Randall Ainsworth - 15 Sep 2006 02:25 GMT
> What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
> technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
> which uses glass in it's construction.  The only part of a camera where
> it would actually make SENSE to use plastic, and it's not available!!!

Still riding that one trick pony, eh?
Bill - 15 Sep 2006 02:46 GMT
>> What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
>> technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Still riding that one trick pony, eh?

Glass is not a requirement, but it tends to be more scratch resistant.

A computer monitor is unlikely to be in contact with various objects
that could scratch it, while a camera tends to be placed against shirt
buttons, zippers, etc.
irwell - 15 Sep 2006 03:17 GMT
>>> What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
>>> technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>that could scratch it, while a camera tends to be placed against shirt
>buttons, zippers, etc.
Glass is a plastic in the true sense of the word.
Hint, it was once sand, or something like it.
John Bean - 15 Sep 2006 09:35 GMT
> Glass is a plastic in the true sense of the word.

Actually it's a fluid - a very viscous fluid to be sure, but
a fluid rather than a plastic.

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frederick - 15 Sep 2006 12:05 GMT
>> Glass is a plastic in the true sense of the word.
>
> Actually it's a fluid - a very viscous fluid to be sure, but
> a fluid rather than a plastic.

Actually - that appears to be a myth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass#Glass_as_a_liquid
John Bean - 15 Sep 2006 20:38 GMT
>>> Glass is a plastic in the true sense of the word.
>>
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>Actually - that appears to be a myth:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass#Glass_as_a_liquid

Well, not quite. I said it wasn't plastic in nature, but
fluid. The reference you cite says "different views can be
justified since characterizing glass as either 'solid' or
'liquid' is not an entirely straightforward matter" and
quotes a reference:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/Glass/glass.html

The conclusion says: "There is no clear answer to the
question "Is glass solid or liquid?" ".

It does appear to be a myth that glass flows, but that isn't
what I said. Either way... it isn't a plastic!

:-)

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Doug McDonald - 15 Sep 2006 22:29 GMT
> The conclusion says: "There is no clear answer to the
> question "Is glass solid or liquid?" ".

Scientifically speaking, ordinary glass at room
temperature is a solid, no quibble. There is a
clear change in heat capacity between a typical
liquid value at high temperatures to a typical
solid value at low temperatures. The transition
is not sharp, but still represents a phase transition.
My ex-colleague Peter Wolynes worked out the theory
of all this.

Doug McDonald
Helen - 15 Sep 2006 18:36 GMT
>> which uses glass in it's construction.  The only part of a camera where
>> it would actually make SENSE to use plastic, and it's not available!!!
>
> Still riding that one trick pony, eh?

I see he's also still confused about when to use it's and when to use its.
Poor bugger.
Dr Hfuhruhurr - 15 Sep 2006 11:29 GMT
> What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
> technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
> which uses glass in it's construction.  The only part of a camera where
> it would actually make SENSE to use plastic, and it's not available!!!

Oh do give it a rest Rich. Plastic plastic plastic.
Anything else?

Doc
RichA - 15 Sep 2006 23:42 GMT
> > What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
> > technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Doc

The new Leica is metal?  But that goes without saying....
Pete D - 16 Sep 2006 00:50 GMT
>> > What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
>> > technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> The new Leica is metal?  But that goes without saying....

Is that why you bought one?
RichA - 16 Sep 2006 07:41 GMT
> >> > What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
> >> > technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Is that why you bought one?

$6000 for a rangefinder camera and a limited selection of focal lengths
won't sell to very many people.
Pete D - 16 Sep 2006 07:47 GMT
>> >> > What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
>> >> > technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> $6000 for a rangefinder camera and a limited selection of focal lengths
> won't sell to very many people.

So it would not matter if it was made of wood, you are still not getting one
are you so just why would you care what it is made of?
John McWilliams - 17 Sep 2006 17:56 GMT
> "RichA" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
> So it would not matter if it was made of wood, you are still not getting one
> are you so just why would you care what it is made of?

He doesn't. Just likes making threads.

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John Bean - 17 Sep 2006 18:05 GMT
>> "RichA" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>> So it would not matter if it was made of wood, you are still not getting one
>> are you so just why would you care what it is made of?
>
>He doesn't. Just likes making threads.

Then lock him up in a tower with a spinning wheel... and no
internet connection.

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darkroommike - 16 Sep 2006 16:30 GMT
bet they could make it cheaper if they used plastic

darkroommike

>>>>> What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
>>>>> technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> $6000 for a rangefinder camera and a limited selection of focal lengths
> won't sell to very many people.
Dr Hfuhruhurr - 18 Sep 2006 12:47 GMT
> > > What is the irony?  The only part that would benefit from coming
> > > technology that will see plastic as a suitable replacement is the LCD
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> The new Leica is metal?  But that goes without saying....

The Irony here (Cue Alanis - it's like raaaaeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaiiiiiiinnn)
is that you don't have a Digital SLR and yet here you are day in day
out.

Get a camera or get a life

Doc
 
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