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Apple Aperture

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Padu - 14 Sep 2006 18:01 GMT
A while ago I began testing adobe lighthouse and I was impressed. Then I
came to realize that it was soo slow that Picasa was a thousand times
better, even without all the RAW development features (I use photoshop for
that).

I was looking at the apple aperture website, and I liked it. What do you
think of it? How fast to browse pictures compared to lighthouse and picasa?
And the ultimate question... do you know if they plan to release a windows
version?

Cheers

Padu
w.beckley@gmail.com - 14 Sep 2006 19:59 GMT
> A while ago I began testing adobe lighthouse and I was impressed. Then I
> came to realize that it was soo slow that Picasa was a thousand times
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> And the ultimate question... do you know if they plan to release a windows
> version?

I'd put the chances of Apple releasing Aperture on Windows extremely
low. It won't happen.

The software is great, and I might even like it a bit more than
Lightroom, but its RAW output isn't (in my experience) as clean as
Lightroom, so I use Lightroom. On my machine (a two-year old dual
processor G5, 2GB of RAM) it is rather speedy, but then again so is
Lightroom, so I don't know if that tells you anything new.

Will
Paul Mitchum - 14 Sep 2006 23:36 GMT
> > A while ago I began testing adobe lighthouse and I was impressed. Then I
> > came to realize that it was soo slow that Picasa was a thousand times
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> RAM) it is rather speedy, but then again so is Lightroom, so I don't know
> if that tells you anything new.

Aperture is out of the running for me because it requires you to
organize your image files in a certain way. It 'imports' them into its
own file structure, much like iPhoto.
cjcampbell - 15 Sep 2006 01:55 GMT
> Aperture is out of the running for me because it requires you to
> organize your image files in a certain way. It 'imports' them into its
> own file structure, much like iPhoto.

Yes and no. It does import them into its own file structure, but it is
not at all like iPhoto, which actually uses a normal folder structure
and which creates duplicate files for every edit. Aperture maintains
only one master file, unless it is exported to an external editor, and
then it creates only one copy and keeps track of all the edits in a
separate file.

You can organize your photos within Aperture any way you like.

That said, Aperture insists that all photos be kept in a single library
on a single disk; no spreading photos around on different disks. You
can create additional Aperture libraries, but you have to change the
library location in Preferences and restart Aperture. This is the
single biggest issue I have with Aperture, but I have lots of lesser
ones as well...
Paul Mitchum - 15 Sep 2006 03:48 GMT
> > Aperture is out of the running for me because it requires you to
> > organize your image files in a certain way. It 'imports' them into its
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> and which creates duplicate files for every edit. Aperture maintains
> only one master file,

No, it maintains a master *package,* which is actually a directory that
looks like a file in the Finder. It's an important distinction. If you
right-click on the Aperture 'document' and select 'Show Package
Contents,' you'll be able to browse the package's subdirectories.

> unless it is exported to an external editor, and then it creates only one
> copy and keeps track of all the edits in a separate file.
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> location in Preferences and restart Aperture. This is the single biggest
> issue I have with Aperture, but I have lots of lesser ones as well...

This is exactly the problem I have with it. It's supposed to be for
professionals, but then dictates that all your images be in a certain
place on a single mounted volume.

Dealbreaker for me.
cjcampbell - 18 Sep 2006 03:08 GMT
> > > Aperture is out of the running for me because it requires you to
> > > organize your image files in a certain way. It 'imports' them into its
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> right-click on the Aperture 'document' and select 'Show Package
> Contents,' you'll be able to browse the package's subdirectories.

That is true, and some other photo organizers will even read it.
Extensis seems to be able to, for example. But iPhoto, at least, kept
its files in ordinary, readily accessible folders. No doubt Apple did
it this way to make it easier to maintain change information and
organize stacks. Monkeying around too much with the library would no
doubt screw up its database.
cjcampbell - 15 Sep 2006 02:01 GMT
> A while ago I began testing adobe lighthouse and I was impressed. Then I
> came to realize that it was soo slow that Picasa was a thousand times
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> And the ultimate question... do you know if they plan to release a windows
> version?

Apple is unlikely to release a Windows version. On the other hand, you
can get a Mac that runs Windows, if you want.

Aperture is not faster than Lightroom. It is faster than iView.
Nevertheless, I use iView because it is a lot more flexible and allows
me to store files on external drives. This is important to me, because
I use a G4 PowerBook which has only a 100Gb hard drive. I could easily
fill all the available space on this drive in a very short time.

There is a Windows version of iView. You might give it a try. Maybe it
runs faster in Windows.

Lightroom still appears to have many features that have not been
implemented yet. This program might be more interesting when it is
released.
 
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