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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2006

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Hawk-Shot Flash Comparison...

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Mark² - 14 Sep 2006 05:23 GMT
Alright all you Monday Morning Hawk-Snappers...  :)

I appreciate those of you who took the time to actually think about this,
and allow for the possibility that the guy on the scene might have some
insight that is otherwise unavailable when simply viewing after-the-fact
on-screen.  For those who still doubt...I've put up one of two fairly crappy
shots...together with one of the "flashed" shots.  The only thing lacking in
this comparison is the NUMBER of hot-spots on the bird in the
nearly-no-flash shot.  It got much worse..because by the time I was up the
tree, the light and his position had changed so that he was splattered with
kind of hot-spot I circled in the crappy shot.  This gives a very good idea
of the light that was there.
:)

The example is NEARLY a non-flash shot, because it was almost entirely
ambient light (as you can see from the LACK of flash shadowing).

The shot itself is blurry, but for this comparison, that's irrelevant.

I scribbled notes all over these images to point out some things- -Hope you
can decipher... :)

Here it is:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/66829130/original

Contrary to those who claimed I'd "ruined" something with flash...
Well...you'll figure it out.
:)

For those with a slow connection, simply click "large" beneath the image
while it's loading...for a smaller version.

For those who didn't see the Hawk shots, they are found here (below a few
other misc. critters):
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/wild_critters

-Mark²

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DD - 14 Sep 2006 14:02 GMT
> Contrary to those who claimed I'd "ruined" something with flash...
> Well...you'll figure it out.
> :)

It's all about technique, old boy. Spot metering and post production
would help you with those highlights.

I do think that perhaps the Canon flash system is partly to blame here.
It always appears to be very obvious when using i_TTL that a flash was
used, whereas a certain other brand works a lot better! ;-)

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Mark² - 14 Sep 2006 15:42 GMT
>> Contrary to those who claimed I'd "ruined" something with flash...
>> Well...you'll figure it out.
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> here. It always appears to be very obvious when using i_TTL that a
> flash was used, whereas a certain other brand works a lot better! ;-)

Oh brother...
...Spot metering???  E-TTL???
Ha!
-Entirely irrelevant for this question, Dallas.
-No relation whatsoever.

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 14 Sep 2006 22:20 GMT
>> Contrary to those who claimed I'd "ruined" something with flash...
>> Well...you'll figure it out.
>> :)
>
> It's all about technique, old boy. Spot metering and post production
> would help you with those highlights.

You got it!  This would have been a perfect situation to use my old Pentax
Spotmeter V.  He could have squeaked by doing it in camera, but....   This
is a perfect situation where he should be doing everything manually anyway.
If I had known he was going to have this much trouble setting up the shot I
would have overnighted the old meter via FedEx.

> I do think that perhaps the Canon flash system is partly to blame
> here. It always appears to be very obvious when using i_TTL that a
> flash was used, whereas a certain other brand works a lot better! ;-)

Nope, don't blame the camera on this one!  I'm strapped suffering with a
Nikon system and these good ol boys get the best Canons and don't know how
to use them.

Rita
 
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