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Spike's foreign sister has an appetite

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Bart van der Wolf - 13 Sep 2006 13:34 GMT
Read this in a Dutch Newspaper, too bad I wasn't the photographer.

<http://www.ad.nl/eceRedirect?articleId=386821>

The translation goes something like this:
Vianen - That blue herons eat frogs, molls and rats is known, but the
bird also seems to know its way with small rabbits.

Photographer Ad Sprang from Vianen saw, on Monday June 5th, how the
heron sneaked upon a young rabbit. When within striking range, it
struck and caught the little ball of fur by one ear. The heron flew
away with the shrieking and struggling rabbit hanging by its ear from
the dagger shaped beak. The heron landed some 50 metres away along
side the ditch. After drowning it, the heron swallowed the rabbit in
whole.

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Joan - 13 Sep 2006 14:10 GMT
Bet it had indigestion after that.

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: Read this in a Dutch Newspaper, too bad I wasn't the photographer.
:
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: side the ditch. After drowning it, the heron swallowed the rabbit in
: whole.
acl - 13 Sep 2006 15:17 GMT
> Bet it had indigestion after that.

The rabbit?
ian - 13 Sep 2006 19:01 GMT
: > Bet it had indigestion after that.

coughed up a hare ball hyuk hyuk hyuk ;)
Bill Crocker - 13 Sep 2006 19:07 GMT
> : > Bet it had indigestion after that.
>
> coughed up a hare ball hyuk hyuk hyuk ;)

Takes a licking, keeps on kicking!
Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 14 Sep 2006 01:38 GMT
>Bet it had indigestion after that.

Heck that's not so indigestible. Here's a Great Egret tossing down a pretty
good sized blue crab. Not the greatest of shots, so I'd not posted them
before. Though links are given for all three, you can use the next slide
arrow to advance the sequence as well.

http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/dSLR/wildlife/slides/DSC_1496-01_cr102
4_800.html

http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/dSLR/wildlife/slides/DSC_1603-01_cr102
4_800.html

http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/dSLR/wildlife/slides/DSC_1613-01_cr102
4_800.html

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 14 Sep 2006 11:22 GMT
Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:

> Heck that's not so indigestible. Here's a Great Egret tossing down a
> pretty good sized blue crab. Not the greatest of shots, so I'd not
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> http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/dSLR/wildlife/slides/DSC_1603-01_cr102
4_800.html

> http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/dSLR/wildlife/slides/DSC_1613-01_cr102
4_800.html

It's probably a peeler?  I could go for a nice softshell sandwich.  At least
he knows how to pick his crabs that are bigger than the legal limit.

Rita
Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 17 Sep 2006 18:40 GMT
>Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
>
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>It's probably a peeler?  I could go for a nice softshell sandwich.  At least
>he knows how to pick his crabs that are bigger than the legal limit.

I'm really mad if I missed a peeler that big in my own backyard.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 17 Sep 2006 23:07 GMT
Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:

>> It's probably a peeler?  I could go for a nice softshell sandwich.
>> At least he knows how to pick his crabs that are bigger than the
>> legal limit.
>
> I'm really mad if I missed a peeler that big in my own backyard.

LOL!  The bird has the advantage because he gets to do all his crabbing in
all the prime locations.  It's really sad what they are pulling out of the
Chesapeake these days.  This guy is so big that he eats #1 males for
breakfast.

http://www.geocities.com/ritaberk2006/pics/Crabby.jpg

Rita
APEX - 13 Sep 2006 21:34 GMT
Puh-leez... That's just a bad cut done digitally, using a layer mask,
in Photoshop (or a similar program.). If you look close enough, you can
see the "halo" around the rabbit that was caused by not cutting close
enough to the rabbit. Either that, or the original rabbit image was
oversharpened in the program used to combine the two images. Check out
the depth of field, too. It just don't look right.

> Read this in a Dutch Newspaper, too bad I wasn't the photographer.
>
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> side the ditch. After drowning it, the heron swallowed the rabbit in
> whole.
Bart van der Wolf - 14 Sep 2006 14:28 GMT
> Puh-leez... That's just a bad cut done digitally, using a layer
> mask, in Photoshop (or a similar program.). If you look close
> enough, you can see the "halo" around the rabbit that was
> caused by not cutting close enough to the rabbit.

There was no halo in the original publication, so I must assume it is
a down-sampling plus oversharpening artifact.

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APEX - 14 Sep 2006 16:12 GMT
It's a striking image, but I am still not convinced that it's
"authentic". What about the difference in the depth of field? Why is
the green background so much lighter in the first image than the
second? How is the heron holding the rabbit? If there is no ear on the
rabbit's left side, where's the blood? Why is there not some blurring
action from the rabbit wriggling in pain and fright? If the image was
taken at a fast shutter speed, there should be more "noise" in the
photo. Where's the "noise"? I could go on but I see no point. How can
you be fooled by this?

> > Puh-leez... That's just a bad cut done digitally, using a layer
> > mask, in Photoshop (or a similar program.). If you look close
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> There was no halo in the original publication, so I must assume it is
> a down-sampling plus oversharpening artifact.
Bart van der Wolf - 15 Sep 2006 00:07 GMT
> It's a striking image, but I am still not convinced that it's
> "authentic". What about the difference in the depth of field?

What about it? The shots were taken at different spots along the
ditch, some 50 metres apart.

> Why is the green background so much lighter in the first
> image than the second?

Ditto.

> How is the heron holding the rabbit? If there is no ear on the
> rabbit's left side, where's the blood?

By its ear and neck skin. Why should there be blood? The rabbit wasn't
pierced, it was grabbed.

> Why is there not some blurring action from the rabbit wriggling
> in pain and fright?

When you pick up many young animals by the skin of their neck, they
instinctively hold still. It's also the way many animals' parents
transport them into safety.

> If the image was taken at a fast shutter speed, there should be
> more "noise" in the photo. Where's the "noise"?

Why? Given that the photographer apparently submits to "birdpix", he
probably has long lenses so the image will most likely have been
reduced in size. Besides, Canon cameras are known for their low noise
high ISO performance, maybe a Canon was used? And then there is
software like NeatImage or NoiseNinja which does wonders on noise
reduction.

>  I could go on but I see no point. How can you be fooled by this?

Photographers/reporters can be (and are) banned by the media for
faking images. Why would one risk his income for a bird picture in a
regional newspaper? It isn't weapons of mass destruction we're talking
about here ...

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APEX - 15 Sep 2006 03:31 GMT
Try translating the page using an online translator, Bart. Then, read
the comments posted by viewers. I did and it seems as though I am not
the only skeptic. :) It looks "authentically fake" to me because there
are just too many inconsistencies and there's nothing you can say that
will change my mind.

> > It's a striking image, but I am still not convinced that it's
> > "authentic". What about the difference in the depth of field?
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> regional newspaper? It isn't weapons of mass destruction we're talking
> about here ...
Bart van der Wolf - 15 Sep 2006 13:25 GMT
> Try translating the page using an online translator, Bart. Then,
> read
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> that
> will change my mind.

Since a picture says more than a thousand words:
<http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=62646&sid=3c0cc12b0db026b01536ae1c3d
dc1ba3
>

<http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=62945&sid=3c0cc12b0db026b01536ae1c3d
dc1ba3
>

<http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=63293&sid=3c0cc12b0db026b01536ae1c3d
dc1ba3
>

<http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=63294&sid=3c0cc12b0db026b01536ae1c3d
dc1ba3
>

Looking at the photographer's comments, he used an EOS-20D with an
EF-500mm f/4 IS . He used ISO 200, 1/320 sec, f/7.1 with EV -2/3
correction. It was a sequence shot on a bean (rice) bag, from his car.
He was so close that the entire bird didn't fit into the first frames,
but the later, more distant pixs fit the full bird into the frame.

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