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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability

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Doug McDonald - 12 Sep 2006 21:43 GMT
I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.

I have to mail order, since no one in our town sells lenses.

The big New Work mail order houses like B&H and Adorama
list them as back ordered, at stupefyingly low prices.
Since I needed some other junk stuff for my new camera, and
only Adorama had the complete list of what I wanted, I
ordered one from them three weeks ago. Everything else came in.

I notice that Ritz is showing them in stock. I am leery of
calling any of these places and asking "is it really in" or
"when is it coming" since I have gotten lies in the past.

Should I expect Adorama to eventually send me the lens, or
should I pay $90 more to Ritz in the hope (expectation???)
that they actually have on in stock. Another month would not
be a problem to switch my order ... unless of course Ritz is
lying or runs out by then.

What to do?

Doug Mcdonald
AaronW - 13 Sep 2006 00:13 GMT
> I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.
>
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>
> What to do?

Even if they really have it, it would be the old one. I'd wait for
Canon to make the new one and then everywhere would have it.

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Doug McDonald - 13 Sep 2006 00:55 GMT
>> I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.
>
> Even if they really have it, it would be the old one. I'd wait for
> Canon to make the new one and then everywhere would have it.
>
> http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr

What do you mean? The lens I am talking about is a quite new
one, with one ED glass element. It is f/4-5.6 . It seems to
be highly regarded for a non-L lens.

It is not the lens with the same description but with "DO"
added, a lens not so well regarded.

Doug McDonald
Holley - 13 Sep 2006 03:31 GMT
>>> I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.
>>
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>
> Doug McDonald

There is a problem with this lens, if the third digit of the serial number
is 0 or 1. Poor resolution at the edge of the frame at the 300mm setting if
the camera is held vertically. They have been recalled. I suspect that Canon
stopped production / shipment of this lens when the problem was discovered,
as there wasn't an immediate fix. There is a fix now, and I suspect the lens
should be back on the shelves soon. (soon being a relative term)

I have one of the lenses that was recalled, and sent it to Canon for the
repair last week. They sent an email saying it should be a 5 to 7 day turn
around.

I have a 30D and love this lens, particularly the IS function. The only
things I don't like about it are the rotating front lens element (makes UV
filter use a challenge), and there is not enough friction (IMHO) in the zoom
mechanism. (if the camera is pointed down, and the zoom lock is off, you get
to take about 5 steps before the lens is at full zoom.) Neither item is a
deal breaker, just something you have to get accustomed to.

If I were doing it now, I'd wait for one of the new production lenses.

Holley
Doug McDonald - 13 Sep 2006 13:57 GMT
>>>> I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.

> There is a problem with this lens, if the third digit of the serial number
> is 0 or 1. Poor resolution at the edge of the frame at the 300mm setting if
> the camera is held vertically.

I see. Interesting! And that would be a big deal for me, as
a substantial fraction of my telephoto shots are vertical
(more than half).

Doug McDonald
default - 13 Sep 2006 16:44 GMT
>> There is a problem with this lens, if the third digit of the serial
>> number is 0 or 1. Poor resolution at the edge of the frame at the 300mm
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> a substantial fraction of my telephoto shots are vertical
> (more than half).

Mine was one of the affected models.  It is presently in at Canon for
repair.  It was a nice sharp lens when horizontal, but vertical was quite
noticeably softer at 300mm and not just at the edges.  The problem appeared
with the IS on and off, manual and auto focus.  Strange problem to occur but
it was very repeatable.  I used a strong tripod, mirror lockup, and remote
release and still the pictures speak for themselves that something is wrong
with the lens when you turn the image to portrait mode.

I hope that when I get the lens back that it will be good in both
orientations.  Other people have been pleased with the repair and apparently
the zoom creep issue was addressed as well.
Doug McDonald - 13 Sep 2006 16:59 GMT
>>> There is a problem with this lens,

> I hope that when I get the lens back that it will be good in both
> orientations.  Other people have been pleased with the repair and apparently
> the zoom creep issue was addressed as well.

Well. It looks like this lens is a winner, if fixed. I shall
simply wait for a shipment to arrive at the company I
ordered it from. I hope this is before Christmas.

I'm glad I asked.

Doug McDonald
Scott in Florida - 14 Sep 2006 00:37 GMT
>>> There is a problem with this lens, if the third digit of the serial
>>> number is 0 or 1. Poor resolution at the edge of the frame at the 300mm
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>orientations.  Other people have been pleased with the repair and apparently
>the zoom creep issue was addressed as well.

I had mine done about a month ago.

You essentially get a new lens back.  All the internals are replaced.

The lens is tightened up so it does not extend on its own, too!

Excellent lens.

I use mine on a 5D

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Scott in Florida

DHB - 13 Sep 2006 19:17 GMT
>There is a problem with this lens, if the third digit of the serial number
>is 0 or 1. Poor resolution at the edge of the frame at the 300mm setting if
>the camera is held vertically. They have been recalled.

    Thanks for the info. it certainly explains the intermittent
problems I have been have with my lens, 1st with on my 300D & then
later on my 30D.  It's a great overall lens especially because of it's
reasonable cost relative to it's performance.  I remember when the
problem was 1st discovered but got busy & forgot all about it until
your post.

>I suspect that Canon stopped production / shipment of this lens when
>the problem was discovered, as there wasn't an immediate fix. There
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>repair last week. They sent an email saying it should be a 5 to 7 day turn
>around.

    Not too concerned with the turn around time but I just hope
they do a good job properly correcting the problem & don't introduce a
new 1 in the process.

>I have a 30D and love this lens, particularly the IS function. The only
>things I don't like about it are the rotating front lens element (makes UV
>filter use a challenge),

    I think you meant to type "PL filter" & I completely agree but
I think this was a necessary tradeoff they had to make in order to
keep the price & size down.

>and there is not enough friction (IMHO) in the zoom mechanism.

    Here too was are in agreement but as I recall this lens also
does not employ a ring type USM drive which is why it does not have
"full-time Manual Focus (FT-M)".  So too much friction would might
slow it's focusing speed down &/or require a larger USM motor & more
power to drive it.  

>(if the camera is pointed down, and the zoom lock is off, you get
>to take about 5 steps before the lens is at full zoom.) Neither item is a
>deal breaker, just something you have to get accustomed to.

    Thankfully they added the retracted position lock, now if I
could just *always* remember to switch it off before I attempt to
adjust the zoom!

>If I were doing it now, I'd wait for one of the new production lenses.
>
>Holley

    Thanks again for the information.  At the moment I am hoping
Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM.  This would be my
1st piece of "L" glass.  Up till now I could not justify the "L" glass
but am now giving it serious consideration for use @ selected special
events where top optical quality may prove worth the investment.

    Do you have any thoughts on this lens?  Yes I know it's not
available yet but I am talking figuratively & most of my use of it
would likely be for candid photography of people, weddings, sporting
events & the like.  The only thing I don't like is that it duplicates
the 1st 1/2+ of the zoom range of my 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM.  However
if I understand it correctly, it's a "constant f4" across the entire
zoom range & has a "non-rotating" front element, thus no more PL
filter difficulties.

    Thanks in advance for any/all constructive opinions.

    Respectfully,  DHB

 

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
Holley - 13 Sep 2006 20:48 GMT
<snip>
>Not too concerned with the turn around time but I just hope
> they do a good job properly correcting the problem & don't introduce a
> new 1 in the process.

Well, if Fedex comes through on time, I should be able to provide
information on that tomorrow, as I just got an email with a tracking number.
The *We got it* message came in Monday, so that's a two day in house
turnaround. I was surprised to see they will need a signature to deliver.

<snip>
> I think you meant to type "PL filter" & I completely agree but
> I think this was a necessary tradeoff they had to make in order to
> keep the price & size down.

Yup.

<snip>
> Thankfully they added the retracted position lock, now if I
> could just *always* remember to switch it off before I attempt to
> adjust the zoom!

Glad to see I'm not the only one in that situation.

<snip>
> Thanks again for the information.  At the moment I am hoping
> Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM.  This would be my
> 1st piece of "L" glass.  Up till now I could not justify the "L" glass
> but am now giving it serious consideration for use @ selected special
> events where top optical quality may prove worth the investment.

My hobiest budget doesn't let me play in the L glass league. I would have
liked to have seen an aperture in the f2.8 neighborhood, but it would have
been quite a bit heaver, both physically and monitarily. I mostly shoot
wildlife, which is why I would want a faster lens.

> Do you have any thoughts on this lens?  Yes I know it's not
> available yet but I am talking figuratively & most of my use of it
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> is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
> to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Holley
DHB - 13 Sep 2006 21:26 GMT
><snip>
>>Not too concerned with the turn around time but I just hope
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>The *We got it* message came in Monday, so that's a two day in house
>turnaround. I was surprised to see they will need a signature to deliver.

<snip>

>Holley

    Holley,
           Thanks I will be looking forward to what I hope is
good news that Canon did in fact correct the original problem & that
your lens is working fine @ 100%.

    Incidentally I just got off the phone with Canon Customer
Service in VA, USA & they will be calling me back in 1-2 days to give
me return information because they need to keep their repair facility
from turning into a warehouse of backlogged lens that need work.  I
can understand that & can continue to use the lens for certain things
until then.  Like I said, I just want if fixed properly, the *1st* &
hopefully the only time!

    Respectfully,  DHB

 
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
Holley - 14 Sep 2006 19:19 GMT
> <snip>
>>Not too concerned with the turn around time but I just hope
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
> Holley

The lens came back this morning, and it seems to have been completely
rebuilt. From an appearance standpoint it looks like it did when I bought
it. The service details section of the work order says they replaced inner
lens unit. The IS motor seems quieter than I remember. The zoom adjustment
also seems to have been tightened up. It still creeps a bit if I walk around
with the zoom lock off, but it's better than it was. It probably wouldn't
creep if the UV filter and the ET-65B lens hood were removed. I'll be
shooting this weekend and will advise if anything operational has changed.

Overall I'm very satisfied with the repair.
DHB - 15 Sep 2006 14:18 GMT
<Cut>

>> Well, if Fedex comes through on time, I should be able to provide
>> information on that tomorrow, as I just got an email with a tracking
>> number. The *We got it* message came in Monday, so that's a two day in
>> house turnaround. I was surprised to see they will need a signature to
>> deliver.

<SNIP>

>The lens came back this morning, and it seems to have been completely
>rebuilt. From an appearance standpoint it looks like it did when I bought
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Overall I'm very satisfied with the repair.

Holley,
        Thank you for posting your information regarding the
repair to your lens & I hope & trust that it's performance will be as
impressive as the speedy service turnaround you received.

    Canon E-mailed me a pre-paid UPS return shipping label
yesterday so I can send mine in for repair.  Unfortunately I was
unable to send it out yesterday but should have the time to do so
today & I too will post my post repair information.

    It certainly seems to me that Canon is standing behind their
lenses & doing everything they can to quickly & effectively rectify an
initial production or design problem.

    Thanks again for keeping us in the loop.

    Respectfully,  DHB

     
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
Holley - 18 Sep 2006 00:45 GMT
<snip>
> I'll be shooting this weekend and will advise if anything operational has
> changed.

The repair procedure appears to have changed the operation of the lens for
the better.

It seems to focus faster, and it doesn't seem like it hunts as much when
focusing. The noise level of the IS mechanism is definitely lower. I would
recommend getting the lens repaired, whether or not you are currently having
problems.

Holley

Of course this could also be a figment of my imagination. :-)
Scott in Florida - 18 Sep 2006 00:57 GMT
><snip>
>> I'll be shooting this weekend and will advise if anything operational has
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Of course this could also be a figment of my imagination. :-)

Not to mention that the lens does not extend on its own when pointed
down.

Well worth the 'update' IMHO...

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Scott in Florida

AaronW - 14 Sep 2006 22:59 GMT
> My hobiest budget doesn't let me play in the L glass league. I would have
> liked to have seen an aperture in the f2.8 neighborhood, but it would have
> been quite a bit heaver, both physically and monitarily. I mostly shoot
> wildlife, which is why I would want a faster lens.

200/2.8 is about the same price as 70-300/4-5.6 IS, although it is an
L. Of course it does not have IS, so you'd better use a monopod.

http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr
AaronW - 14 Sep 2006 23:38 GMT
>     Thanks again for the information.  At the moment I am hoping
> Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM.  This would be my
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> events & the like.  The only thing I don't like is that it duplicates
> the 1st 1/2+ of the zoom range of my 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM.

I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more
useful.

BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd
prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele
lens.

http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr
Doug McDonald - 15 Sep 2006 20:19 GMT
> I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
> the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele
> lens.

I'm the OP about the 70-300 IS.

I do notice that having the 18-55 and 70-300
leaves a gap of about 25%. This is unfortunate.
However, since the 18-55 lens is a cheapie non-IS,
I would consider later getting a better IS type lens
that goes across the gap. In the meantime, one can
always crop the 55 a bit, though it is not exactly the
world's sharpest lens, and the number of pixels on
the 30D leaves only marginal crop room too.

Doug McDonald
AaronW - 16 Sep 2006 02:55 GMT
> > I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
> > the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I would consider later getting a better IS type lens
> that goes across the gap.

It's not only the gap. E.g., there is no gap between 24-70 and 70-200,
but I would switch frequently between these two lenses. A lens
overlapping the middle range, 45-135, would be very useful.

Right now, between your 18-55 and 70-300, a good middle lens is
28-135/3.5-5.6 IS, but a 45-135 without retrofocus would be better
and/or cheaper.

http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr
Paul J Gans - 18 Sep 2006 21:56 GMT
>> > I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
>> > the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> I would consider later getting a better IS type lens
>> that goes across the gap.

>It's not only the gap. E.g., there is no gap between 24-70 and 70-200,
>but I would switch frequently between these two lenses. A lens
>overlapping the middle range, 45-135, would be very useful.

>Right now, between your 18-55 and 70-300, a good middle lens is
>28-135/3.5-5.6 IS, but a 45-135 without retrofocus would be better
>and/or cheaper.

I want a 24-85mm f/4 from Canon.  70 is too short for me as
an everyday lens.  And 45 is too long.  Unless of course I
had a full-frame body which I don't...

   ---- Paul J. Gans
AaronW - 19 Sep 2006 04:17 GMT
> >> > I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
> >> > the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> I want a 24-85mm f/4 from Canon.

Do you mean f/2.8?

> 70 is too short for me as
> an everyday lens.  And 45 is too long.  Unless of course I
> had a full-frame body which I don't...

For EF-S, I want a 28-85 without retrofocus.

http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr
Paul J Gans - 19 Sep 2006 05:20 GMT
>> >> > I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
>> >> > the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>
>> I want a 24-85mm f/4 from Canon.

>Do you mean f/2.8?

Depends on the weight.  I'm not as young as I was
yesterday and carrying a few pounds of camera and
lens gets a bit wearing after an hour or two.

>> 70 is too short for me as
>> an everyday lens.  And 45 is too long.  Unless of course I
>> had a full-frame body which I don't...

>For EF-S, I want a 28-85 without retrofocus.

Yes.  I'm thinking about one day getting a 5D full
frame and so I'm a bit leery about S lenses, though
I own two -- one is the kit lens, the other is my
Tokina 12-24mm f/4, a lens I love.

   ---- Paul J. Gans
AaronW - 20 Sep 2006 02:31 GMT
> >> >> > I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
> >> >> > the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> yesterday and carrying a few pounds of camera and
> lens gets a bit wearing after an hour or two.

There is a 24-105/4 IS.

http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr
Doug McDonald - 19 Sep 2006 16:04 GMT
I am the OP of this thread.

As you may remember (threads drift, you know) I ordered
the Canon 70-300 IS USM lens, and it was backordered. Well,
today I get notice that it has shipped.

But an interesting question: why would the first shipment of
this order go by U mail and this one by UPS? From the same
company,
of course.

Doug McDonald
Holley - 19 Sep 2006 16:45 GMT
>I am the OP of this thread.
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Doug McDonald

Glad the lens is finally on it's way. You're going to love it!

I'm supposing that you mean the first part was to be sent by US mail (the
post office). I can't think of reason a for the change, unless the first
part of your shipment did't need a signature. Maybe it's Adorama's way of
apologizing for the delay.

As a point of interest, let us know what the third of the lens serial number
are, if you don't mind

Holley
Doug McDonald - 21 Sep 2006 22:39 GMT
> Glad the lens is finally on it's way. You're going to love it!
>
> As a point of interest, let us know what the third of the lens serial number
> are, if you don't mind

I has arrived.

It's a three. I have just started playing with the lens.

Doug McDonald
DHB - 16 Sep 2006 12:21 GMT
>I'm the OP about the 70-300 IS.
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Doug McDonald

    Doug McDonald,
                I initially purchased my 300D with the
same 18-55mm (28.8-88) kit lens followed shortly thereafter with the
purchase of a Canon EF 55-200mm (88-320) f/4.5-5.6 II USM & an EF 50mm
(80) f/1.8 Mk11 for low light use.  The EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM
was within my budget @ the time & I suspect that I got a very good
copy of it because I was quite pleased with it's overall performance
including sharpness.

    Then later on I purchased a Canon EF 100mm (160) f/2 USM lens
& soon learned just how sharp a lens could be when I used it to take a
picture of a squirrel in my yard & could clearly make out the convex
reflection of my white house in the reflection of it's eye.  I was &
remain impressed with this lens & still favor it when what I am
photographing does not need a zoom lens & @ f2, it's quite fast!

    Some time later I purchased my 1st "IS" lens, the Canon EF
28-135mm (44.8-216) f/3.5-5.6 IS USM which soon became my favorite
walk-about lens.  However it was a bit too long for indoor group shots
unless it was a big enough room, so I purchased the Canon EF-S 17-85MM
(27.2-136) f4-5.6 IS USM soon after it was introduced.  Although this
lens dose have a considerable amount of barrel distortion @ 17mm
(27.2), it was rarely ever a problem for me because I usually
photograph people & not buildings with strait lines where such
distortion can become noticeable.  There are several programs
available that can easily correct this distortion in Post Production.

    In short, eventually the Canon EF-S 17-85MM (27.2-136) f4-5.6
IS USM & the EF 70-300mm (112-480) f/4-5.6 IS USM became my 2 favorite
lenses for most of my photography & together they give me a total
effective equivalent of (27.2-480mm) with very little overlap.  I'm
certain that there are sharper, faster & better lenses than either of
these 2 but I have to remain within my budget for now.  These meet my
needs 95% of the time for what I want to do with them.

    Best of luck in your future selection of a replacement for the
18-55mm kit lens.  I am quite pleased with my EF-S 17-85MM (27.2-136)
f4-5.6 IS USM lens for my needs but depending upon what your needs
are, you my want/need something better.

    Note to Holley:  I dropped off my EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
lens to UPS late this afternoon, so now the wait for it's return
begins.

    Respectfully,  DHB  

   

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
Paul J Gans - 18 Sep 2006 21:44 GMT
>>       Thanks again for the information.  At the moment I am hoping
>> Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM.  This would be my
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> events & the like.  The only thing I don't like is that it duplicates
>> the 1st 1/2+ of the zoom range of my 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM.

>I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at
>the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than
>the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more
>useful.

>BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd
>prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele
>lens.

I have the 70-200/2.8 IS.  The main problem is that it is
*HEAVY*.  Carry it around for a couple of hours and you will
know it in your bones.

It is, however, a superb lens.

The f/4 IS (which is, I think, not out yet) should
be significantly lighter.  If a person does mostly
daytime outdoor photography I see no reason why the
f/4 should not be amply wide.

And it should also be a superb lens.

   ----- Paul J. Gans
AaronW - 19 Sep 2006 04:13 GMT
> >>       Thanks again for the information.  At the moment I am hoping
> >> Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM.  This would be my
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> The f/4 IS (which is, I think, not out yet) should
> be significantly lighter.

I understand. I think the f/4 lens is for people who want to save
weight, but not necessarily those who want to save money.

> If a person does mostly
> daytime outdoor photography I see no reason why the
> f/4 should not be amply wide.

DoF, and the limit to outdoor daylight may be too restrictive.

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Paul J Gans - 19 Sep 2006 05:18 GMT
>> >>       Thanks again for the information.  At the moment I am hoping
>> >> Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM.  This would be my
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>> The f/4 IS (which is, I think, not out yet) should
>> be significantly lighter.

>I understand. I think the f/4 lens is for people who want to save
>weight, but not necessarily those who want to save money.

Yes, though the f/4 ought to be a good bit cheaper than the
f/2.8.

>> If a person does mostly
>> daytime outdoor photography I see no reason why the
>> f/4 should not be amply wide.

>DoF, and the limit to outdoor daylight may be too restrictive.

Yes.  In the end it all depends on the intended use and the
photographer.  Only *you* can make the final decision.

    ---- Paul J. Gans
Prometheus - 13 Sep 2006 19:44 GMT
>> I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.
 ----Cut-----------
>Even if they really have it, it would be the old one. I'd wait for
>Canon to make the new one and then everywhere would have it.

How do you get that idea, Canon recalled all the lenses with the fault.

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Holley - 13 Sep 2006 21:03 GMT
>>> I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.
>  ----Cut-----------
>>Even if they really have it, it would be the old one. I'd wait for
>>Canon to make the new one and then everywhere would have it.
>
> How do you get that idea, Canon recalled all the lenses with the fault.

Go here.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=SupportDetailAct&fcategoryid=21
6&modelid=11922


Look under service notices.

Holley
Prometheus - 14 Sep 2006 19:38 GMT
>>>> I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.
>>  ----Cut-----------
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Holley

Yes, I have seen that notice to customers, can you show a notice to
retailers telling them not to return the suspect lenses? You will find
that Canon recalled them and that there are none of the suspect lenses
on sale with their agents.

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Holley - 14 Sep 2006 20:07 GMT
>>> In article <1158102835.707424.26960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
>>> AaronW
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> that Canon recalled them and that there are none of the suspect lenses on
> sale with their agents.

No, I can't document that Canon issued a stop selling and return for repair
order to retailers. A recall of unsold product would be something between
Canon and it's distributors / retailers, that the public wouldn't need to
know. I suspect they halted production after the problem was encountered,
and this caused the supply to dry up. Now that a fix has been found, I would
expect the lens to be back on the shelves soon.

Holley
DHB - 19 Sep 2006 16:31 GMT
<CUT>

>No, I can't document that Canon issued a stop selling and return for repair
>order to retailers. A recall of unsold product would be something between
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Holley

Holley,
        Canon just acknowledged receiving my lens @ their Factory
Service Center in Jamesburg , NJ & have informed me that about a week
will be required for the repair.  This is fine by me because I only
care that's it's done correctly the 1st time around, the time it takes
is much less important.

    With that said, was this the same facility that repaired your
EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens or did yours go to another Factory
Service Center?

    Thanks again & I will post again on this thread when I get my
lens back & have a chance to take some quick evaluative shots with it
to seem if the problems I was having with it have been 100% corrected.

    Thus far I am very pleased with Canon's quick & professional
service response.  Hopefully I will be even more pleased after I get
my lens back from them.

    Respectfully,  DHB  


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
Holley - 19 Sep 2006 16:48 GMT
> <CUT>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
> to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Yes, Jamesburg NJ is where I sent mine. I think that's the only facality
that does this repair.
DHB - 21 Sep 2006 16:39 GMT
>> <CUT>
>
>Yes, Jamesburg NJ is where I sent mine. I think that's the only facality
>that does this repair.

Holley, Scott & others,
            UPS tracking indicated that my lens was
delivered to Canon's Factory Service Center on 9-18-2006.

Canon E-mailed me the following day (9-19-2006) indicating that they
received it & just now E-mailed me again (9-21-2006) stating that it's
been repaired & was shipped back to me on (9-20-2006).

    So depending on how you view all of this it's a 1 or 2 day
turnaround time.  Either way that's an impressively fast turnaround
time.  It would seem as others have suggested that this repair may be
equivalent to the service center replacing the interior of the lens as
some type of a complete assembly (95+ % of the lens).

    This would make it faster for them to complete an extensive
repair so quickly.  No matter how they have done it, it certainly
illustrates to me that Canon is handling this issue about as good as
anybody could reasonably hope or expect.

    Now all that remains to be seen is if I am as pleased with the
actual repair as I am with their turnaround time.  From what others
have stated who had the repair done, I fully expect I too will be very
pleased with the repair.

    Also as requested, I will share my results just as soon al I
receive it back & have a chance to test out the lens & confirm that
the original difficulties I had with it have in fact been corrected.

    Hope this information is of value to others.  It comforting to
see that some companies still seem to understand the value of
*Customer Service*, both for the customer & for themselves.

    Respectfully,  DHB

         
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
Scott in Florida - 19 Sep 2006 17:35 GMT
><CUT>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens or did yours go to another Factory
>Service Center?

My 70-300 was repaired at the Jameburg NJ facility.  They did an
excellent job.

I marked the main barrel of the lens, just for my own interest.

They replaced all the inside pieces.

It is an excellent lens, now.

As an aside, the mechanism has been tightened up so it does not extend
on its own when pointed down.

Let us know how your repair goes.

>    Thanks again & I will post again on this thread when I get my
>lens back & have a chance to take some quick evaluative shots with it
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
>to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

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Jack Mac - 22 Sep 2006 21:35 GMT
>><CUT>
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>>is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
>>to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

My 70-300 will be picked up by UPS on Monday on its way to
Jamesburg, N.J. Rick at Canon said it'd be repaired in 2 days.
He told me he wanted to remind me that the Manual Focus will
be a bit stiffer than previously. He said some had complained
about it.
Jack Mac
Scott in Florida - 22 Sep 2006 23:55 GMT
>>><CUT>
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>about it.
>Jack Mac

ROFL.....

You just can't please everyone all the time.

That stiffness makes the lens not extend  on its own.

I can turn my 'stiff' lens just fine...

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DHB - 23 Sep 2006 02:04 GMT
<CUT>

>My 70-300 was repaired at the Jameburg NJ facility.  They did an
>excellent job.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Let us know how your repair goes.

Scott, Holley & Others,
                Fedex delivered my EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6
IS USM lens back from Canon's NJ Factory Service Center @ about 6:45PM
today.  Bit too dark to test it outside but I expect to do so this
weekend.

    According to the paperwork, the Canon Service Center "Replaced
inner lens unit".  This likely is a big reason for the very quick
turnaround time.

    Initial inspection & a few quick *indoor* test shots with a
420EX flash seem to be consistent with the other results posted here.

1> Zoom is defiantly tighter, an added bonus IMHO.

2> No evidence of any image quality problems in either portrait or
landscape modes.  Thus far it appears 100% fixed.

3> Unlike others, my IS motors sound the same to me.  The IS seems to
be working very well but as before they are not nearly as smooth
sounding as either my EF-S 17-85MM f/4-5.6 IS USM or EF 28-135mm
f/3.5-5.6 IS USM.  Not what I would consider noisy, but it does sound
like there is a bit more of a grumble to it compared to my other 2 IS
lenses.  This may just be because the motors/gyros may be a bit larger
or run @ a higher RPM.  This is not a complaint, just a comparative
observation.

    I'll post here 1 last time after I get a chance to test it out
further, outside next time.  300mm on 1.6x cropped DSLRs (effective
480mm) is way too long for indoor shots in my modest sized home.  So
far so good however.

    Respectfully,  DHB

       

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
DHB - 26 Sep 2006 04:42 GMT
>My 70-300 was repaired at the Jameburg NJ facility.  They did an
>excellent job.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Let us know how your repair goes.

To Holley, Scott & Others,

                Took 1 of my niece's to her J.V.
Soccer game today & took along my 300D DSLR & newly repaired Canon EF
70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens.  It preformed very well even in portrait
mode where it was most problematic prior to the repair.

    Now it does just fine & in both landscape & portrait mode,
though from where I was seated very few of my shot actually "needed"
300mm.  Since 300mm, @ f5.6 seemed to be the best setting to evaluate
lens performance, took several there.

    Bottom line:  Canon repaired my lens @ no cost to me including
shipping & thus far it appears to have been quickly & correctly
repaired.  Additionally the zoom control is now tighter, a definite
plus IMHO.

    Respectfully,  DHB

 
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
Paul J Gans - 15 Sep 2006 03:57 GMT
>I'm wanting the Canon 70-300mm IS USM EF lens for my new 30D.

>I have to mail order, since no one in our town sells lenses.

>The big New Work mail order houses like B&H and Adorama
>list them as back ordered, at stupefyingly low prices.
>Since I needed some other junk stuff for my new camera, and
>only Adorama had the complete list of what I wanted, I
>ordered one from them three weeks ago. Everything else came in.

>I notice that Ritz is showing them in stock. I am leery of
>calling any of these places and asking "is it really in" or
>"when is it coming" since I have gotten lies in the past.

>Should I expect Adorama to eventually send me the lens, or
>should I pay $90 more to Ritz in the hope (expectation???)
>that they actually have on in stock. Another month would not
>be a problem to switch my order ... unless of course Ritz is
>lying or runs out by then.

>What to do?

Wait for Adorama.  You run far less risk of serious
upset and disappointment.

   ---- Paul J. Gans
 
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