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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2006Nikkor 18-200mm VR problem?
My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens points downward. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a fix? r. > My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying > the camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the > lens points downward. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a > fix? It's a known problem that pretty much afflicts most of the 18-200s. The best thing is to not worry about it. You can send it back to Nikon Repair for a temporary repair or wrap a rubber band around it if it really bothers you. Rita >> My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying >> the camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Rita Temporary repair? I do not much like the sound of that at all. I guess that means I will just learn to live with it. According to Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com>: > > My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying > > the camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for a temporary repair or wrap a rubber band around it if it really bothers > you. I've not handled the 18-200 yet, so I don't know whether it has this feature, but my 35-135 has a marco mode which requires the lens zoom collar to be pulled all the way back, a button depressed on the collar, and the collar then rotated to select the focal distance (no AF in macro mode on this lens). Anyway -- I've taken to leaving this set into macro mode, as it inhibits the zoom slide, so the lens stays in its most compact position. If there is a similar mode on yours, you can use it the same way. It does slow down that first shot when you raise the camera to your eye, but otherwise, is no problem. I'm doing this in part to keep the lens from breathing too much and sucking in dust. most of my other lenses don't have this problem -- but this one is the most comfortable zoom range for me currently. (If I'm going to be doing a lot of walking, I am more likely to switch to the 18-70mm kit lens, or to the 28-105mm which also has a very nice macro mode. Enjoy, DoN.  SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- >> My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying >> the camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Nikon Repair for a temporary repair or wrap a rubber band around it > if it really bothers you. Repair ? Isn't it just what they do - nothing to repair ! geoff > My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the > camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens > points downward. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a fix? If you zoom the lens all the way in to its shortest focal length, it is supposed to lock into position and not be subject to gravity-induced zoom creep. At any other focal length it will be subject to gravity-induced zoom creep. >> My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the >> camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > creep. At any other focal length it will be subject to gravity-induced > zoom creep. Nope, it eventually manages to creep away from the shortest focal length position. >>> My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the >>> camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Nope, it eventually manages to creep away from the shortest focal length > position. Then it is operating outside of specifications. It would seem a repair or exchange are the only solutions left. >>>> My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying >>>> the camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Then it is operating outside of specifications. It would seem a repair or > exchange are the only solutions left. Just had a closer look, the camera will stay in the 18 mm setting, like you describe, I can only conclude that in carrying the camera behind me on the shoulder strap, the barrel of the zoom must be rubbing my coat. Once the setting is disturbed, it will move due to gravity as described. I do not have a solution. >>>>> My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am >>>>> carrying the camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > gravity as described. > I do not have a solution. Mr Canon thought that was a significant problem in at least on instance: he added a switch that will keep the 70-300 IS DO lens at its short end unless released. SignatureFrank ess >My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the >camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens points >downward. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a fix? Yes, mine has this problem. When I called Nikon a couple months ago the fellow claimed they weren't aware of this problem, but that I could send it in and they would look at it. At the shortest focal length mine stays in. Also if really humid the problem goes away, and conversely, when drier it is worse. I do plan to send mine in. I just haven't decided when. Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/> (e-mail link at page bottoms). >My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the >camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens points >downward. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a fix? Yes. Don't let the camera point down. :-) >>My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the >>camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > :-) I have a disobedient camera, I keep telling it not to do so but its center of gravity says otherwise. Damned physics anyway. When I take over the planet, I will decree that gravity will be compliant to my will. Not only that, I will have a new coin stuck with both of my faces, one on the front and one on the back. I will have a guillotine in every town, all the lawyers, politicians and clergy will be rounded up and beheaded. Parasites, all of them. >>> My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the >>> camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens points [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I will have a guillotine in every town, all the lawyers, politicians > and clergy will be rounded up and beheaded. Parasites, all of them. I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most fascinating.....:) I own and use one of the 18-200 lenses and mine doesn't "point down" when I carry the camera using the strap around my neck. It points forward - and gravity works here pretty much the same way it does everywhere else. That being the case, the second to last poster had it right - don't point the camera down. "Non-problem" solved.... PC > I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most > fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > PC Short of taking a picture of the camera and the 18-200mm VR lens attached, suspended from the strap, I do not know of a way to convince you that indeed the lens points downward. Eventually, the lens will creep out to the full zoom position when I am out for a walk with the camera. Try it, grab the strap, hold it out in front of you and see for yourself. Its not a NON PROBLEM for me, perhaps in your universe, gravity works differently. >> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Its not a NON PROBLEM for me, perhaps in your universe, gravity works > differently. Just to make sure we are on the same page, my camera body is the D-50. Even with the 18-70mm kit lens, the lens points downward. >>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Just to make sure we are on the same page, my camera body is the D-50. > Even with the 18-70mm kit lens, the lens points downward. I've used both of those lenses a D70s - which is pretty much like the D50 - and with a D200....IMO, which of the Nikon SLRs you're using is irrelevant..... I realize you are stubborn, but the lens doesn't point down unless YOU point it down - carry it around your neck and it will quite happily face forward...... PC >>>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > PC Stubborn? No, not stubborn, just stating facts. Of course, beliefs are stronger than facts for you. Ok, have a look here .... www.rudybenner.com/album/smartass/d_50_points_down.pdf Now tell me the camera does not point down, blockhead. That's exactly what mine does when let hang. If it's hanging from my neck it still points down but not quite as much. SignatureJoan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly : Stubborn? No, not stubborn, just stating facts. Of course, beliefs are : stronger than facts for you. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : Now tell me the camera does not point down, blockhead. >>>>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>>>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Now tell me the camera does not point down, blockhead. I wondered how long it would take for you to start "name calling" - the proof you've no argument.... Your picture is both silly and stupid. Wear the camera around your neck and it points forward, NOT "down". Even you photo shows about a 45 degree angle, NOT "down". I tried mine again - strap around neck, camera rests on chest - points forward. The only way you can make it point down is to manually force it down.... Quit while you're behind...or find something valid to complain about..... PC >>>>>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>>>>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > PC Would you not call "silly and stupid" name calling? How about "stubborn"? r. >>>>>>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>>>>>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > r. The measured angles are 62 degrees with the 18-200mm VR lens, 48 degrees with the 18-70mm kit lens and 22 degrees with just the camera body. >>>>>>>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>>>>>>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > degrees with the 18-70mm kit lens and 22 degrees with just the camera > body. Ain't gonna give up are you?....:) Hang it around your neck and measure again......:) PC >>>>>>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>>>>>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > r. "Stubborn" isn't a name - words mean things..... "Silly" and "stupid" referred to your photos which show you holding the camera in your hands..... I still suggest you wear it around your neck and it will NOT point down...mine still points straight forward even with the lens extended all the way out, i.e., 200mm...... You are still beating a dead horse and "stubbornly" insisting that what isn't so is indeed so....! Reminds me of another intellectual giant who queried the world as to what the real meaning of "is" is.....:) Surely there is a real problem you can put forward for discussion - maybe? PC >Surely there is a real problem you can put forward for discussion - maybe? Yes, will all parties please trim quoted material. -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html > >>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most > >>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > point it down - carry it around your neck and it will quite happily > face forward...... It's very interesting that you know how someone else's camera hangs from its strap when you've never seen them or their camera strap. FYI, my Nikon D70s with the 18-200mm VR lens attached, when hanging from my neck on the camera strap supplied by Nikon with the camera, hangs DEE OH DOUBLE YOU IN. Not that I'm stubborn, that's just the way it is. Your gravity loses 2-1. >>>>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>>>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Your gravity loses 2-1. I'll stick with my gravity - the gravity that exists in the real world...... My 18-200 VR mounted on a D70s rests happily on my chest when hanging from the strap and points straight FORWARD....:) PC Maybe for you, but for me, I couldn't have the strap so short that the camera would rest on my "chest". Whatever would that look like in front of my melons? I have the camera strap at a length so that the camera is about waist level or lower and the lens points below horizontal. However, I don't let the camera just hang, normally I cradle it in my left arm, this way both the camera and lens are supported and if the SB800 is also attached, it's supported as well to reduce stress on the connections. SignatureJoan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly : I'll stick with my gravity - the gravity that exists in the real world...... : : My 18-200 VR mounted on a D70s rests happily on my chest when hanging : from the strap and points straight FORWARD....:) : : PC >> >>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >> >>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Your gravity loses 2-1. Beliefs are stronger than facts. In spite of images supporting my statements, he remains convinced he is right. There is only one solution, the killfile. Points up, points down, who gives a sh*t?. Why you're at it, why not measure the size too? Mine (D50+18-200) points down at about 45 degrees when hanging around my neck, and further down if just held out freely. The lens easily pulls out when set to 24mm but is rather firm when set at 18mm. SignatureJoan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly : Short of taking a picture of the camera and the 18-200mm VR lens attached, : suspended from the strap, I do not know of a way to convince you that indeed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : Its not a NON PROBLEM for me, perhaps in your universe, gravity works : differently. >> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Its not a NON PROBLEM for me, perhaps in your universe, gravity works > differently. Nonsense - nothing to "convince"....doesn't happen.....maybe my lens is "special", somehow, but it doesn't move unless I move it...... And, remember, I said I carry the camera using the strap around my neck - which is the way it was intended to be carried.....:) PC >>> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most >>> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > PC Stubborn? No, not stubborn, just stating facts. Of course, beliefs are stronger than facts for you. Ok, you made me do it, have a look here .... www.rudybenner.com/album/smartass/d_50_points_down.pdf Now tell me the camera does not point down, blockhead. {that is a piece of 1000 MCM single conductor high voltage cable behind the camera in the third shot, we all need to make a living} when used to use film slr, my cannon AE-1 with the vivitar 75-205 mm zoom lens on the camera, with a strap arround my neck it would point down just due to the lens being heavier then the camera body, and when the straps attatch to the camera, the lens that came with it, a 50 mm, would not turn down, would point ahead, it was a matter of weight and balance points, dont recall if it would move or not while pointing at the ground, dont recall having a prob with it though. > >> I find this overly detailed discussion of a "non-problem" to be most > >> fascinating.....:) [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > PC > >My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the > >camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens points [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > :-) Personally, I like a long camera strap slung across my chest so that the camera rests on my hip below the waist. I can't stand Nikon's short straps. So I use PacSafe's camera strap, which also gives me some protection from camera snatchers who cut straps. The long strap also makes the camera much less conspicuous and keeps me from constantly looking like a tourist. Quite honestly, people who carry their cameras on their chests might as well wear flower print Bermuda shorts and long black socks. I like the camera to have as small a profile as possible. The 18-200mm VR does not point down when it is set to 18mm, but it does if set any longer -- which is fine with me; the darned thing gets banged around plenty as it is without sticking out another several inches. I have lost or broken several lens hoods that way. > My new 18-200mm sometimes will zoom out to 200 mm when I am carrying the > camera on a walk, then camera center of gravity is such that the lens points > downward. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a fix? The ones that don't do this have owners who complain that the zoom is too stiff. I take it you have had the lens for awhile and it has loosened up a little. At least the lens points downward when it does this. Otherwise people would think you are way too happy to see them. Plus, this lens tends to get banged on everything and everybody anyway. My own problem with this lens is that I keep knocking the lens hood off or breaking it. It is a real problem with the fantastically narrow passageways and extremely crowded streets of the Philippines. |
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